Polystyrene foam transport box performance
Submitted by jighead on Wed, 2013-10-30 13:18
Can anybody tell me how long I can expect my fish to stay frozen in one of those polystyrene foam transport boxes. It will be filled to the brim with frozen fillets, sealed with duct tape and transported in my car with the aircon going. It has been recommended to me to not use ice in the box.
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Jayden20
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quite some time I recon....a
quite some time I recon....a bag of ice last two days in mine with being opened and closed and used as a drinks esky....how longs the drive?......it would be worth putting a bag of ice in a day before to "prime" the esky too
Dale
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Check with fisheries
You might want to check with fisheries to see how much you can carry, last I checked it was 20kg and 10kg at the Abrolhos.
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jighead
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All good Dale
Two of us, 20 kg each.
Sammy the Salmon
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Did it exactly as you said
Did it exactly as you said (filled with ice and fillets) a couple of years ago from Exxy to Perth (about 12 hours drive). Absolutely no problems, Still as frozen when put in the box.
jighead
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Will be a trip from Exy to Perth
But we will stop at Kalbarri the first night and finish the drive the next day.
scubafish
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fish
Vacuum seal the fillets put on ice in container then cover in damp towel .Bigger the esky more the ice.
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jighead
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Can't vac seal scubafish,
Can't vac seal scubafish, don't have the gear with us. Normally we would do that though.
Ron Ashcroft
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Hey mate wrap the fillets in
Hey mate wrap the fillets in newspaper then put them in your box it works a treat
jighead
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That's a good idea ron.
That's a good idea ron. Cheers
Pitty
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As Sammy said, we use to use
As Sammy said, we use to use those exact same boxes regularly from Exmouth to perth with nothing but the frozen fillets in them and never had a problem, now we just use the boat esky and the engel.
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Pitty
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As Sammy said, we use to use
As Sammy said, we use to use those exact same boxes regularly from Exmouth to perth with nothing but the frozen fillets in them and never had a problem, now we just use the boat esky and the engel.
UBIQUE
jighead
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Cheers Pitty
Did you drive straight through?
Pitty
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Yeah, but with the boat on
Yeah, but with the boat on its about a 14h drive. They use to sell the foam esky sat the local iga up there
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still do
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Cruise Control
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I send frozen fish by air to
I send frozen fish by air to my Mum in the Easten states wrapped in newspaper (lots) and then in plastic dropped in a foam box filled with paper. It gets to her the next day, still frozen.
Versus
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Isn't it illegal now to post
Isn't it illegal now to post fish?
Rig
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it is
It is if you are not travelling with it, but who checks/monitors this? cant imagine fisheries having the resources unless the suspect someone
Versus
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Not having a go or anything,
Not having a go or anything, for those that aren't aware, from fisheries website:
Transporting recreationally caught fish by courierRecreationally caught fish can no longer be transported unaccompanied using a commercial courier.
Rig
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recent
yeah that was changed recently possibly less than 12 months ago
carnarvonite
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Freezer
Fill it to the brim with fish or ice if you have to bulk it up but the trick is to put the box in the freezer [if it fits] the night before so you're not putting frozen stuff in to a hot box. Once the lid is on run duct tape round the lid to seal it properly.
Cover it with blankets/ clothing, anything that will keep the sun off it and the contents should stay frozen
jighead
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Thankyou for your advice
Thankyou for your advice Carnarvonite. Much appreciated.
marble
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Taken fish from Exmouth to
Taken fish from Exmouth to Brisbane and Adelaide on the plane lots of times in foamies. No ice just frozen fillets and prawns, will last 18 hours easy.
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bitten
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bloke here at work does it
bloke here at work does it wrapped in newspaper and in the foamy dampier to NZ thats about 30 hour from freazer to freazer
no defrost the fuller it is the longer you will get of course
jighead
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Thanks guys
30 hours sounds excellent. I will pre chill the box, wrap in newspaper, fill to the max and cover with a damp hession sack and see how I go.
Cruise Control
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I think that the spirit of
I think that the spirit of the ruling is to regulate those people who take their limit and then courier it home then take their limit again to travel home with. I hardly think that Fisheries will go after people for sending 3 or 4 kgs of fish out of their freezer to family in another State.
If they did, they clearly have too much time on their hands and perhaps should be focussing their attention elsewhere
Rig
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agree
I agree cruise control there is clearly a moral difference in that, my point was i dont think they even check it at the places they made the rule for. However if someone gets caught for whatever reason they will more than likely throw the book.
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You have got that right Rig.I
You have got that right Rig.
I work for a large regional transport company that operates general and freezer trailers out of all those places where lots of fish might be taken like Gero, Carnarvon, Exmouth, Karratha, Hedland, Broome and so on. Never seen or heard of Fisheries at a Depot, never seen or heard of them at our main Depot in Perth. Never even seen any correspondence from Fisheries about it.
More than likely one day they will walk in and if they catch someone then they will be for the high jump no doubt about that.
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Pinched
Was a report in the paper a couple of months back where a bloke fronted up at the depot to collect his and his 4 mates fish from a trip to the Monties and the fisheries were waiting and pinched him once he had it all in the back of his car.
Can't remember the penalty but it would have been a fair whack if you go by the book.
jighead
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Is that Norex transport
Is that Norex transport Cruise Control
Pitty
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Before the new statewide
Before the new statewide fishing rules were bought in, I read the original submission to the minister, fisheries management paper 252. In the report it was stated that over 3 tonnes of recreationally caught fish was transported over a 3 month period in 2010 from Exmouth through one courier company.
Clearly there was a problem with people taking more than there possession limit of 20kg. The same paper also recommended the reduction of the possession limit from 20kg to 10kg. Thankfully this was rejected by the minister.
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Pitty
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also iit might be worth
also iit might be worth reading the labeling rules in relation to transporting your fish if it is stored in the same container as someone else's. The rules seem a bit absurd if your travelling with your fish but they are clear. (Page 32/33 of the rules statewide)
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Nah mate. Toll
Nah mate. Toll