pro drumline petition
Submitted by scotto on Thu, 2014-01-30 15:14
a workmate just sent this link.
for all people that are FOR the drumlines, there is a petition doing the rounds. cant hurt to put your details down if you're all for it. don't forget to comment.
thefishwrangler
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drumlines are the worst thing to hit this state
the drumlines are the worst thing to hit the wa coast. i don't like the idea that i might get attacked by a shark any more than any one else but that is the risk we take when we enter the ocean. the sharks have been in the oceans for millions of years and have more right to be in the ocean than we do. one site said that shark numbers are incredibly healthy, what a load of bs, no where near enough science has been done to support this barbaric human behavior.
there are 3,500 great white estimated in the world making them more endangered than tigers. facts 1700 people die on australian roads each year and 54 people die from lightning strikes world wide each year where as there are 50-70 attacks and 5-15 fatalities world wide from sharks. 20 - 100 million sharks are slaughtered each year and for a top predator that is no a sustainable number no matter how you look at it. the oceans need sharks to remain healthy with out them fish dieases would wipe out huge populations of fish and what is humane about a shark struggling on a line and then not killed instantly and instead has to be shot 4 times.
imagine the pain that animal endures and don't say they can't feel pain because they can. and once they are slaughtered they are dumped, left to feed even larger sharks. we all don't like shark fin soup but this is no better than that. and once they have eaten their fill on the bodies , do you think they will still eat a small bit of bait? the world is watching on in disgust at the state that it could allow this. there are far better ways to solve this problem like satellite tagging the sharks. the state government has no idea what it is doing
thats just my view
scotto
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That's lovely.
Go hug a tree f@&$&t
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mitch
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MMMMHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA
MMMMHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA GOLD
signed and passed on to friends ...thanks for the link
MattMiller
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Yet another
sheep who's joined the site to pedal rubbish
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LMOA
LMOA
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Haha. Your 17 mate so take
Haha.
Your 17 mate so take it easy.
Here are a few links you might want to read before you shoot off again about the government not knowing what they are doing. They seem to be spending a bit of money on research. next time research the actual topic not what the media is telling you.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/state-government-funds-research-into-sharkrepelling-surfboards/story-fnhocxo3-1226792480168
http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/wa-government-funds-four-shark-projects/story-fnjbnvyg-1226792534085
http://www.theage.com.au/wa-news/mufflers-for-beaches-could-reduce-shark-attacks-20131231-303uf.html
Once you've read these, google NSW and Queensland Shark control programs. The been established since the 1930s and the 1960's respectively. Have a read of them, then maybe jump on a plane over there and let them know how you feel.
They're doing a lot worse damage then WA.
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MattMiller
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Here Here
Shane O
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nice form
don't care either way, but there are kids who read this forum who care about the enviro and don't understand all the hype... But they do underastand all the crap you talk...... So maybe you should re think before you post this stuff Scotto, everyone is allowed there opinion so let it be hey.
MandurahMatt
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You nailed it there mate
You nailed it there mate everyone is entitled to an opinion Scotto has had his known just like you champ
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scottywiper
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Ok. I won't tell you sharks
Ok. I won't tell you sharks don't feel pain...but I did get this from a leading marine biologist this week...
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crasny1
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Blah blah blah.20-100Million
Blah blah blah.
20-100Million sharks are killed each year, what difference is a few >3m sharks going to do to that number. Perhaps it would be 20 000 010 - 100 000 010 sharks each year. A tiny drop in the Ocean protecting humans here. Go winge at the others that kill the rest and leave WA alone. Pick on Queensland and NSW that have had drom lines for years.
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terboz123
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meh....just another shark
meh....just another shark thread
i see your point of the petition, but its just going to turn in what the other threads are.
a hard days fishing still beats work
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I reckon it'll get a bump in
I reckon it'll get a bump in numbers today Scotto .. up against the mighty activists social media machine , so hopefully people will pass it on .
@ Fishwrangler only a young bloke and I hear your passion and your welcome to your view .. do a search on sharks on this site there's 100's of posts you may even become more informed .
PS : Mr Scotto has a low tolerance of idiots talking crap
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thefishwrangler
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now now lets keep it
now now lets keep it civilized:) always willing to learn. didnt mean to rub any one up the wrong way. but i feel strongly about these things that's my point out there so i'm done with this thread. no hard feelings
http://news.nationalgeographic.com.au/news/2005/06/0613_050613_sharkfacts.html
let's just agree to disagree if you support it then that's fine that's your decision but i don't and that's my decision i'm not trying to change your pinion and if that makes me a tree hugging f@&@"t then so be it. but this argument has gone on long enough. there's no point to it and i'm done
scotto
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Seriously
I'm just posting a reply to stop you changing your f00kin post mate. That's 5 times now. Get the f00k over yourself
clogwog
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hey fer, I'm pretty
hey, I'm pretty sure that you still need to catch a Shark to put a sat tag on it, heaven forbid that the shark feels some pain, would love for you to stand in front of the family's that have lost loved ones to attacks and state you are concerned that a shark feels pain.
The governments options in the short term are either netting or drum lining with drum lining being a proven method that has less environmental impact. It would take years to sat tag the current numbers of sharks off the metro coast. Over the last three outing I have personally seen two very large tigers and my mate has caught a small hammerhead, there is clearly an issue with shark numbers.
I would also argue that the size of the hooks being used for drum lining would be unlikely to hook smaller sharks.
diver albie
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tigers and a hammer
lets be honest, neither are man eaters are they. A quick google will show its bloody hard to justify hooking them.
clogwog
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Agree on the hammerheads not
Agree on the hammerheads not being a man eater but I would not want to spend any time in the water with a large Tiger Shark.
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Had a huge Tiger circle our
Had a huge Tiger circle our boat off Gnaraloo once, the bloody thing was eyeballing us... a few nervous laughs on deck that day.
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so..... just checking
so..... just checking ......is it ok to call someone a f@&$&t ?
CityFlicker
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It's fine as long as you use
It's fine as long as you use a few random symbols to hide the bigotry. Better off calling em horses hoofs.
Just because I smile & nod does not mean I believe the crap coming out of your mouth.
All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the privilege.
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Not really
You can determine your own perceptions, the thread context had formed already. But no, its not acceptable and 0 tolerance on what i see from here on.
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axey45
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wot about small words like
wot about small words like poos wees jobbies. lol
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Kick em out then too much
Kick em out then too much profanity slips through the cracks hear
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damo6230
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Oh my
Yet again you resort to name calling and derogatory comments
Scotto you and your mates are champs
TorquenFish
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He apparently has the IQ of
He apparently has the IQ of a house brick and the vocabulary of a fence post.
CityFlicker
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Well I just searched my
Well I just searched my complete history & there's nothing in there like you described. Mistaken or making shit up.
Just because I smile & nod does not mean I believe the crap coming out of your mouth.
All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the privilege.
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Mate checked aswell and need
Mate checked aswell and need to apologise my mistake. I owe you a beer, or maybe a carton ;)
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Thank you Clogwog. Owning up
Thank you Clogwog. Owning up to an honest mistake is a rare thing on this site. Good man. You don't owe me anything. You checked your info & apologised, all I can ask for & more than many on here would do.
Just because I smile & nod does not mean I believe the crap coming out of your mouth.
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barcrusher bjs
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Fishhugger the drum lines are
Fishhugger the drum lines are the best thing the government could do.
luke t
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Petition signed and shared
Petition signed and shared !!!
diver
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Fish Wrankler
I can see how much you care for the fish you catch,that fish you are holding so proudly may well of sufferd from blindness caused by the sun,if you really care,cover the fish eyes they dont were sunglasses & do not have eye lids.Diver
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Signed and shared, with a
Signed and shared, with a bit of negative feedback.
Fisherman, constantly trying to out-smart fish.......with limited success
tangles
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popcorn
spewin and I was just about to put a bag of popcorn on the stove!! hehe!
for me living in a small town where I have watched little gormms grow up surfing and fishing playing in the ocean here. We don't need permission to take care of any predator that comes close to people here in the ocean, they are given ample opportunity to swim away but if they don't well it is taken care of without any fuss and no arguments from anyone regardless of their opinion or position on to kill or not to kill.
then on the other hand! people should stop putting big baits out off the beach and targeting sharks because that is also contributing to these creatures coming in close. good onya for the petition scotto. I think if the otherside can have their say and put pressure on everyone then why not pro drumline petition, everyone has the right to have their say on things.
young fella being passionate will put you in good sted for the future but don't stir it up on a thread that was meant for pro drumline comments.
now back to the popcorn and river monsters!!
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River monsters! Best show on
River monsters! Best show on TV at the moment Tangles.
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Cull
Instead of cull, should be 'coastal protection strategy,' wouldnt have even made the media..
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sea-kem
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Ha ha the gov forgot to
Ha ha the gov forgot to employ their spin doctors on this one Adam. Maybe big gov cut backs in that dept too lol
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tangles
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awsome tv
awesome tv sea-kem, my little girl loves the show and I get to teach her what kind of fish they are! seen a Cpl of river monsters at the local pub here that would take out a guy! you wouldn't want to catch em cos they would snap your rod!!
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Hooooo, nasty, do they drink
Hooooo, nasty, do they drink beer from the jug, smoke champion ruby (one handed rollers) and wear flannelette? Could call it Kalbemscott
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Particularly liked the
Particularly liked the episode where he jumps in the river hooked up and swims downstream. Ha ha madness, but he knows his stuff.
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Signed and shared on
Signed and shared on Facey....
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I want to know, besides
I want to know, besides sitting back and do more research, what is the anti shark cull groups suggesting? At least the government is making a stand on the situation and acting on it. Are they going take responsibility for the next person killed? Yes they always use the road death stats, but there are actions in place to deter drink drivers etc...to reduce the death rate. IMO if they reckon that people going into the ocean is asking for trouble, why not let people speed and drink drive and if we choose to use the same roads as them we are also asking for it.
I agree that killing a few sharks may not stop all the shark related deaths, but it gives a people confidence to enter the ocean with less possibility of getting attacked be a shark close to shore.
on the same note, with all the penalties for drink driving and speeding etc... It also doesnt stop everyone from doing it, but it gives me confidence that they are less chance of me getting killed by someone breaking the law.
Thats my view.
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Bees
Better kill all the bees in the country as well because more people die of bee stings each year than die from shark attacks. Maybe supply golfers with insulating rubber suits to stop them getting struck by lightening while you are at it.
fisharoo
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Yep, that's what I did a few
Yep, that's what I did a few years ago. A huge bee hive appeared in by backyard near my kids swing set, I called a pest exterminator and killed them. Why wait till my kids get stung before I acted?
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Carnarvonite what proportion
Carnarvonite what proportion of the population are exposed to bees compared to how many regularly swim in the ocean. Those stats are bullshit unless you break it down as a percentage. I am pretty sure the entire population is exposed to bees...FAIL
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That's the point^^^It's all
That's the point^^^spot on dowders
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Burley it and they will come.
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Speaking of bees apparently
Speaking of bees apparently their numbers are in worldwide decline in recent years .. maybe their status should be more of a priority with concerned environmentalists .
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sea-kem
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Yep, no bees = no people.
Yep, no bees = no people. The Greenies remind me of that mob in Life of Brian. They just need pointing in the right direction lol.
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pale ale
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I dont really care either
I dont really care either way, but anything the Greens support must be wrong.
Will sign it now :)
AaronC
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why do you all hate sharks??????????
I love sharks........ in beer batter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no point in killing them and dropping back in the ocean dead.
Why not fillet them up and give them to the salvo's for food for the homeless?? sure the homeless would appreciate it. plus its more revenge for eating us!!!!!!
crasny1
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Big sharks
= High Mercury and heavy metal levels. Perhaps just allow more pollution into the ocean, then all big sharks will die from Heavy metal poisoning
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COASTALJOY
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where shark at
There must be to many sharks around the drum lines have been in since saturday and they have only caught 1
40 hooks out each day for 6 days == 144 hours of fishing time where are the masses of sharks in the south west.
Fact ; local surfers at some breaks are telling people that they have seen sharks when they have not because the breaks are becoming to crowded and they want people to stay away
Fact ; 30 surfers on the water at injidup 10ft shark swims through the back of the break, swell was clean and pumping, they knew the shark was there and no one went in to get away cause the swell was good, where is the FEAR?
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crasny1
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So??? Where did you get the
So??? Where did you get the "fact" from. Im a F^$#ng genius - Fact???? I have no proof off this so you just have to take my word.
By the way also "fact" Im the best fisherman on this site "fact"
Show proof before stateting such stupid "facts"
I cant prove my statement, but its fact!!!!!!?????
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COASTALJOY
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Fair comment Crasny
The Fact comes from being there at the time at injidup, What proof would you need Signed witness statements? The other fact I referred to is from the group of local surfers that are telling people about seeing sharks when they have not.
Where is the proof to justify other opinions or statements for and against, where are all the photos of all the big sharks fisherman are seeing cause there are heaps out there. Not just the 2.5mt bronzies
I am someone that also likes things proven
For all I know you might be a genius
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Rig
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busy
I was at meelup and eagle bay most of last weekend FACT. There are so many boats hanging around those drumlines that the sharks will be staying clear, wait till it all calms down a bit and see what happens.
But you must be beleiving all the hyped up bullshit that some of these idiotic little groups are putting out such as drumlines are going to wipe out a species.
all they will do is take out a few big ones that are hungry enough and happen to be right in that area, its a big ocean
axey45
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Maybe if they started drum
Maybe if they started drum lining earlier like when the snapper are spawning and the start of the crayfishing season they would of caught alot more and maybe saved those lives, takes to long to get going.
Earth Cruiser
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Poor old Ron must be turning
Poor old Ron must be turning in his grave...
http://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/347588/Ron-Taylor-Marine-conservationist-Born-March-8-1934-Died-September-29-2012-Aged-78
And no, I'm not a f*&^%$g tree hugger who thinks all fish are 'sea kittens'.
I've been swimming, surfing, diving and fishing this coast for over 40 years. I still do and so do my kids.
But I live with the risk.
But I don't go spearfishing along the reefs behind Garden Island with a catch bag of wiggling, bleeding fish dragging behind me anymore. Nor do I go out surfing at the South Passage at Lancelin. Not because I think there's more sharks - I just think when we were young we were fn crazy.
My attitude towards the value of something's life has changed somewhat however.
Having kids and giving life contributed largely towards that change.
I feel fortunate that my old man brought me up with a 'conservative' attitude towards fishing as a result of the decline in fish stocks he had seen in his lifetime - and as an ex copper from the old school - he was one of the toughest f((*&^S I ever knew.
When that guy got taken in Warnbro Sound, that pretty much happened in my front yard where I swim every day and it had a profound effect on me. I was there on the scene about five minutes after the incident and witnessed first hand a family in utter distress. And the way that guy's son handled himself with the media afterwards would have made his father proud. That guy was a true 'man of the sea' and always said that if he went when he was in the ocean, then so be it - that's what he loved to do.
Flame away cullers - I'm over being angry - I feel sorry for you that you don't appreciate how awesome these animals are.
And if seeing one dragged up the side of a boat and shot in the head gets you off, well...
Maybe your attitude will change one day as well.
Do you guy's really think that the 7 billion of us are doing a geat job looking after the place where we live?
West Coast
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Earth Cruiser
Do you really think you were crazy when you were young or has 10 deaths in the last few years and daily encounters with GW's turned you off diving and surfing?? Be honest.
uncle
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wasn't Ron a mass
shark killer in his first life!!!!!
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Earth Cruiser
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West Coast, I've always been
West Coast, I've always been scared sh*tless of them. But yeah, I'm more so now. A school of blowies swam under me the other day off Secret Harbour and I just about friggin walked on water for a second there.
I still surf and dive and fish - with my kids - just not in those places that I consider were high risk back in the day anyway.
I purposely never watched Jaws for that reason.
I just don't expect that we should go and start killing them so some fat, MacDonalds eating, overseas tourist can come and twinkle his toes at Cottelsoe beach and feel 'safe'. And as for the tourism business down South - the sharks are a great excuse. Maybe your charging too much or it's because your service is crap. For what it costs for two nights in Margaret River I can just about go to Bali for a week.
And how do the tourist operators think we are being portayed overseas?
Personally I think we as fisherman have had an effect on them coming closer to shore.
Animals are obviously capable of 'learned' behaviour.
For how many years have we been dropping thousands of cray pots off our coast, old bait goes over the side, fresh bait goes down again.
Hmmm, nice little burley slick X 1000's.
I'm sure many of you saw that footage posted a couple of weeks ago of the sharks hanging around that crayboat as the guy was throwing the under size crays back.
They're not there for the crays. And it doesn't prove, "wow, look how many more sharks there are now".
Smart charter boat operators now mimic the driving actions of crayboats when they come over a lump - why? Because the demersal fish have 'learned' that there's a free feed on the way.
Anyone that has fished Cockburn Sound will know of the dolphin that comes up to your boat for a free feed - 'learned' behaviour.
The stingrays that hang around popular boat ramps and jetties for a feed - 'learned' behaviour.
Did anyone see that episode of River Monsters where they tagged that Bull shark in Africa and tracked it movements? Quite clearly that shark had 'learned' that hanging around under a boat meant the possiblity of a free feed.
The Samson fish aggregation off Hillaries each year - guys can hardly get a fish to boat now. It wasn't like that 10 - 15 years ago. but bang, along comes the internet and everybodies out there chummin' up. Wow, why are there so many sharks here now?
Cockburn Sound - at the end of the Snapper season you might have a hundred boats hanging around the D9. Just like me, all chucking chopped up mulies over the side , chumming up.
I saw a show on the ABC last year when these young blokes were going to swim with the GWS. Althought they didn't bring them in the skipper of the boat was banging the deck with pole - the sharks had 'learned' to respond to that noise.
So now we want to drop 72 freshly rebaited burley cages 1 kilometre off the shore every day. Yep, that'll keep the sharks away.
And please, I'll ask again - how many sharks do you guys need to see killed and for how long before you feel safe again? And how is that going to stop Mr GWS swimming in from Africa the next day and eating you?
This is of course only my opinion, but it's just as crazy as some of the other bulls**t I see around the place.
And NO, this is NOT an attack on Pro fisherman or their right to earn a living doing what they love or fisherman (or persons for you PC's) in general, cause I'm one of them.
sea-kem
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I just don't expect that we
I just don't expect that we should go and start killing them so some fat, MacDonalds eating, overseas tourist can come and twinkle his toes at Cottelsoe beach and feel 'safe'.
I think you missed that point mate. This isn't about tourism it's about mitigation for the locals, have you forgotten the thouands of locals that flock to the beach each weekend, the little nipper surf life savers, your kids maybe?
The gov has a duty of care in this matter, I'm a fence sitter on this ,I don't like seeing the sharks get knocked off but you can't sit on your hands and not be proactive.
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West Coast
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I think your clutching at straws..
Sharks have always followed crayboats. My family has a crayfishing background. We used to see sharks out deep water all the time...just not in the size and numbers you see today. Perhaps they have learnt, or perhaps it is because they have taken all the shark pro's out of the metro area. Seems a coincidence that they followed crayboats for 50 years but in the last few years they have REALLY learnt to follow the boats. Speak to any crayfisherman. There are more sharks and they are bigger.
Boats have always burlied and fished the spawning snapper of Cockburn sound. GW's were pretty much unheard of. Pretty common these days. Why is it that they seem to have just learnt in the last few years. Have they got smarter or is it because they have been protected since the mid 90's and there are more of them??
Don't believe the mass slaughter of sharks crap the green pedal. They have been using the same stats for 20 years. Things have changed, particularly off WA, QLD and NT. We do not have the shark boats we used to. Big wetline boats don't fin anymore. Dedicated shark boats have ceased up north because of the drop in the fin price. Crayboats cant set hooks anymore...it goes on.
I do not understand the hysteria. Sharks are pretty much offered protection, particularly off the metro area through the removal of pro's and the introduction of size limits. It has probably never been a better time to be a shark. Why the hysteria with removing a few. They have been doing it off QLD and NSW for decades. Perhaps people need something to take their mind off their own life!!
MattMiller
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Yep
agree 100%
carnarvonite
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Fin price
The reason why they stopped shark fishing up north was a huge drop in thickskin [sand bar whalers] numbers, we warned fisheries about decreasing catches of them and they said it was seasonal?? yet 2 years after we pulled out the whole fishery collapsed and was closed, now 10 years on its still closed. It had nothing to do with any drop in fin prices as I was still getting better money for them 3 years later fishing around the capes down south.
Earth Cruiser
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Uncle, that's my point - he
Uncle, that's my point - he changed...
uncle
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yeah after wholesome slaughter by
him Val and the gang,looked like they enjoyed themselves, did they change for ratings?????? fxxzzzking hypocrites
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
scotto
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ken oath uncle
he's plugged more sharks than he'll ever save
MattMiller
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For sure
one of the biggest hypocrites of all time
monstaf1sh
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Anyway to start a poll on
Anyway to start a poll on here to see how are for and against?
Would be interesting to see what the numbers are.
NORUN NOFUN
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I'm from Newcastle on the east coast
Grown up with drum lines and nets ! surfed, dived and fished all up and down the coast.
Can not for the life of me, remember any shark attacks.
Wonder why that is ?
Earth Cruiser
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Norun Nofun, just out of
Norun Nofun, just out of interest and I'm not challenging you here, but what was the make up of the coast line there?
Is it masses of inshore reef systems like we have here?
Same with the Gold coast. Can someone enlighten me as to the make up of the coastline there? Is is just sand for kilometres out or reefs?
I always felt safer surfing places like Triggs Point or Secret Harbour. Used to hate going to places like City Beach or Leighton for surf life saving carnivals because the it's much deeper closer in.
Would always be crappin' myself down South hanging out around dark reef systems.
Ninety Mile
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I dont know where the
I dont know where the 3,500 GWS world wide figure comes from, but there would be at least 3500 on the Aussie coast alone. Who comes up with this shit. Vic, SA and WA are riddled with them however mainly juviniles.
Not that I thing drumlining is the answer, more of a ne jerk reaction by the gov and silly to compare with Queensland drumlining efforts as the shark demographic is much different here. But christ 3500 GWS world wide is absolute bullshit, perhaps <1997!!
Ol Tom
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Hey boys instead of hacking
Hey boys instead of hacking on each other how about someone tell me how to catch a decent fish off mandurah/rockingham????
sea-kem
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You'll need a drum and some
You'll need a drum and some heavy line for a start.......
Love the West!
WSHN4FSHN
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Haha gold!!
Haha gold!!
Burley it and they will come.
NORUN NOFUN
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Hey Earth Cruiser
Where I grew up and learnt to surf was around Stockton Beach, really long sandy beaches with head lands at each end.
I learnt to fish and dive around Nelson Bay, not far from Stockton, and this area is kind of similar to WA, with lots of reef area.
I had never even heard of a White Pointer when I was a kid - 70's !!
Yet I see on Youtube guys catching Great White's at Stockton beach - so I suppose they were always there, just never saw or heard of one .
scotto
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sheesh,
I didn't start this thread to start another pro vs anti argument, but more so for those pro, to simply provide written support directed to the authorities. interesting to see after months of arguments, it still evokes much debate.
the way I see it, is its a necessary evil much the same as taxes. no one wants to pay them, but its for the better of the state. same with the sharks, no one really wants them thinned out, but something does have to be done, again, for the better of the state.
axey45
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Im for the cull but wish
Im for the cull but wish they would utilise the sharks rather then dump them, who's going to the protest rally at wanbro beach? thought about going to support the cull.
Willlo
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West Coast
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2 sharks caught off Cott
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/two-sharks-caught-just-hours-after-baited-drumlines-are-set-off-metropolitan-perth/story-fnhocxo3-1226814775021
Only been in the water 2 hours.
Now that is quick learning.
Aaron Santos
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"Undersize" should be changed
"Undersize" should be changed to "size good enough to eat".
Still trying to catch fish!
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marrisy
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had a good read of this thread ,
I wasn't going to get too involved, however I am now motivated to sign in favour of the cull.
SHUT IT DOWN
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Anyone remeber tasmanian
Anyone remeber tasmanian tigers? they used to bite the odd person or sheep. how'd they go!
West Coast
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Bees
I heard the bees and lightning got them all....
crasny1
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Just for a laugh
Just seen a client that is (was) going to the Protest. Anti cull.
I asked nicely why?
"Because the hooks will kill innocent animals like dolphins and especially my favourite - Humpback whales!!!!"
Oh I said, where did you hear that the drumlines have or ever will hook a whale.
From a Green website, looking after Humpbacks.
Now I was almost laughing, but resisted and opened up a page on the net showing the "natural predators of humpback's" - up pops Mr GWS.
"The only sharks that can prey on sick and juvie humpbacks are large tigers and Great whites, so removing them might actually help the humpback"
She is no longer going.
A classic case of misrepresentation by the Green webpage.
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Paul H
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MMMM also a reason why so
MMMM also a reason why so many supported marine parks (read banned fishing zones - I support the marine parks in principle but not necessarily sanctuary zones) to protect the dolphins and whales from us fishermen.
Should be taken to task more for some of the crap they peddle.
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crasny1
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Also just signed.Interesting
Also just signed.
Interesting to note that many off the Pro culling people are from Coastal suburbs or towns!
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