Rod building kit
Submitted by Yewiefish85 on Sat, 2013-08-24 08:54
Hi guys, I know there are a few guys on here that build rods so I hope you can help, I'm looking at buying a samurai/fuji rod building kit from Motackle, they state on the website that all you need extra to what is in the kit is thread and epoxy
My first question is what type of thread do I need?, also can I epoxy the rod without a rod lathe?
Cheers Yewie
Brucesta
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You'll need to construct a
You'll need to construct a jig to hold the rod, best bet is to get he threads need too while buying your rod, C threads are easier to use than A threads and if you have a rotisserie you can rig up something to spin the rod when drying.
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Stratos-Fear
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A lot of coin for your first
A lot of coin for your first build. I would get a cheap rod kit from Mudhole to work on first then when you come to your Samurai build it will be shmick.
Bunny
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I use A size for under binds
I use A size for under binds and decorative work. It is thin and looks better. Also when you overbind with size C or D the thicker thread sits on top better. If you use the same size or less on top the thread falls between the underbind.
rod Epoxy takes a long time to cure enough to let you stop spinning the rod so you will need a dryer unit. A BBQ rotisserie type or a dedicated rod dryer unit.
i would recommend you actually locate a nearby custom rod builder and get the to do the coating got you unless you plan to build more rods. You will only use about 10mL or less so whatever you buy the rest will be wasted. Plus you need to use a metho burner or gas lighter to pop any bubbles that form so there is a bit to it including needing several coats.
I mostly use Metallic threads for the underbind and mix the overbind up but black size D is the major overbind thread.
PM me if you want any more advice on setting up patterns or any other question etc. Don't forget you will need masking tape and Araldite to glue the butt cap, grips and reel seat on. The tape is for making a couple of Arbors to fit the seat on plus to hold threads in place when binding.
There are a lot of tips on the web on how to bind rods.
when I started I made my own hand held lather making three V shaped pieces of timber glued to a square base that then sat in a U shaped base all made out of fence pales. It did the job but can't be used to dry the Epoxy.
gav1970
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Interesting thread. I'm
Interesting thread. I'm looking to do the same thing at the moment and I've found a lot of useful information on various websites and youtube videos.
If you decide to take Stratos-Fear's advice motackle have a super cheap kit here http://www.motackle.com.au/fishing/rod-building/rod-building-kits/arm-estuary-spin-kit-3102907.html. Sure, it won't be a samurai or a t-curve, but at least you'll get to iron out all the bugs before laying down the big bucks for your dream rod. I'd be interested to hear how the project goes from someone making their first rod.
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Yewiefish85
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Thanks for the input guys,
Thanks for the input guys, was looking for something to kill some time and as I don't really have the room to set up a rotisserie for drying I might have to give it a miss and just buy factory made rods
Cheers Yewie
Bunny
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Don't be put off mate. The
Don't be put off mate. The dryer takes up as much room as the lathe and you can use the same spot as once the lathe is finished move it out of the way.
Also as I said for the epoxy step yo can just get a custom builder to finish for you which for your first build is not a bad idea.
Yewiefish85
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May look into it in the
May look into it in the future when I have more room, also there is no custom builder where I live (Port Hedland), not sure where the nearest one is, maybe Broome but that's 600km away
crezz
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don't need heaps of room
don't need heaps of room mate. I build all my rods on the outside table. just go on to ebay and get a battery power rotisserie for about $30 and 2 rod stands. i wrap all my threads by hand and it only takes me about 2-3 hours to completely finish a rod excluding drying time. wrap all your threads first then do your varnish before you go to bed, put it in the rotisserie and you wake up the next morning with a finished rod.
Brucesta
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it's very rewarding
it's very rewarding Yewiefish, i've built about 8 rods now and 5 of them where for little kids, having them pick out thier colours and a holograph fish sticker each when they saw the final product it was worth the 3 odd weeks it took me to make them. They where the cheap ARM kits off MO Tackle. I've done one of those Samurai kits for the mrs and it was the frist rod i built, for what it cost me i wish i had done a few cheapies to practice on first as there was a few flaws like using the wrong threads (just used cotton from the craft store, didn't take the thread sealer well and make the blue almost black).
Also be ready if you're building a dream rod, get a budget in mind and double it, I brought a Calstar 10-15kg blank and set myself a $250 budget total, well the blank was $200 but once you get the good hardware the costs get up a fair whack, rod ended up costing me $387 without my labour and i could have got a similar rod from the shops for about $270 but it's made by me and i reckon it looks shit hot!
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