Squid outfit
Submitted by catchalittle on Tue, 2009-05-19 12:48
With the squid competition over which I was not able to attend due to family commitments I was wondering what is everyone's favourite squid outfit whether it be a top range outfit or a kmart combo
my two would be my
Daiwa emeraldas 2506 reel and daiwa saltiga ocean jigger 6'6 rod
Daiwa Luvias 2500 reel and daiwa redback 6'6 rod
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Nice gear
but i think a cheap combo will do the job as long as you have an effective lure. Ever since Brenz sold me a few top of the woozer lures i am convinced that quality lure in the right colours outfishes any cheapies 5 to 1 - proved it in fact over several sorties.
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would definately agree with
would definately agree with you on useing good jigs I generally buy at least a dozen when I am in Japan,but buying locally yozuri,yammishda,duel, they outfish the cheapies was out last night with a mate he was using a javis walker jig and was not catching zip loaned his one of mine and he caught his bag limit in no time and they were boomers
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Best
Good squid jig and a $2 handline cant go wrong! Would rather spend the money on the jigs rather than a rod.
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I dont mind as long as i can
I dont mind as long as i can cast decent
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egi
hearty rise type c egi rod
daiwa infeet gekabijin
6lb code red braid
6lb linesystems egi f/c leader
yamashita/harimitsu/yozuri jigs
spent alot of money on squid jigs/gear and by far the best asset to the collection is the hearty rise egi rod from honsu unbeatable rod. have used many other egi rods such as gladiator egi series and squid seven egi series and it out performs them well and truely.
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usually
shorts and a t-shirt. I dont think the squid mind if I am not overly dressed up.
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The fish in
The fish in exmouth certainly dont haha
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land - hearty rise Egi Rod B
land - hearty rise Egi Rod B type with Exist 2508
boat- same reel but with an Etuoh Evolution rod or anthing in the 6" range...
and a smaller outfit with a 2.0 squid jig floating behind the boat.
squid jigs - im a big fan of yo zuri Aurie Q and Aurie Neos.
Wanting to try the Breeden(?) jigs tho...
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Old Kmart special in blood red
very whippy and wont catch anything bar a squid, Tiny Okuma 1000 type egi-beater, braid, flouro leader and "the most expensive jig you can lay your hands on". Notice how the price increase the further toward the squid you go. Crap rod, crap reel, better line, expensive leader and crazy priced jig.
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Which colours for what weather
Is there any hard and fast rule for which colour you opt for dependent on what the weather is like? Do you go a lighter jig in brighter conditions? A green jig always on a Thursday? or do you just keep rotating them until you start to get some action?
cheers
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At night time I either use a
At night time I either use a pink or orange jig as this sems to work for me from the boat and size of jig depends on how fast you are drifting,during the day I use one of the white or pink and yellow jigs never fails
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Like I said on the other
Like I said on the other post. Go longer rods for casting distance, it'll be easier to work the jigs when they far out as well.
Already got the reels I want, maybe a Stella 2500S or C3000S later on.
Egi Force Type B 8"3' and Emeralda 2506
Egi Forec Type B 8"9' and Certate Finesse 2506
Jigs?? I got over 100 to choose from and will be getting more soon.
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I have one "egi" rod
Hearty rise something or rather (the ones Chinny has) and an Emereldas 2506 with 4lb fireline crystal.
Jigs, my Yo-Zuris are about on their last legs (the cloth is knackered) so I'll be stocking up in the coming months.
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will have to start looking
will have to start looking for a new rod as I have just ordered a certate hyper custom
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I'll have more rods in stock
I'll have more rods in stock tomorrow and wait til you see these new jigs within the coming weeks....they are DA-BOMB!! But be prepared to empty out your piggy bank. Starting at around $30!!
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geez 100 jigs I thought I
geez 100 jigs I thought I was bad having 60 jigs what does your mrs think
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100? WTF
Honsu I can't believe you've got 100+ lures. That's brilliant. Surely a lot of them would look pretty similar to each other??
cheers
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Honsu steals them from the
Honsu steals them from the shop! :P
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Yeh some are double
Yeh some are double up.....
Nathan....you should know the rules know, once you got a missus, your fishing is limited, once you're married your fishing is restricted.
Im still single, so I can do whateva...lol
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GLADIATOR Egi Equip rods
Hi All
We do three rods in our EGI Equip series. The are 7'2", 8'1" and 8'10". All the rods have been designed by expert Japanese squid fishermen, the actual rods that we do reatil for around $600.00 in Japan. Our rods are made from hi-modulus graphite from Japan. It is actually graphite that was earmarked for the new Airbus 380 but because of slow production times they need to offload the graphite to keep cash flow up - so I guess you can say they are made from aircraft grade graphite. They have a parabolic action to cushion any lunges from a squid ensuring you wont pull hooks from the soft flesh. If you would like to know who stocks them in WA send me a PM, Ryan will receive a couple next week so maybe drop Honsu a PM.
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most cheaper rods have a
most cheaper rods have a slow taper wich is good for squiding so you dont pull the jig, i find the soft plastic rods are a bit stiff for squiding (and cost a bit more), im currently building a rod atm, a cheap blank that has a slow taper and soft action 6ft to use in my boat, with fuji split camo grips and alcanite guides. reel wise using a twinpower 1000 size reel with 4lb braid. nice little reel anc keeps the weight down on the final product.
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Does anybody use the
Does anybody use the whipping action when they fish for squid,,as demonstrated by the jap squid pro ?
This question came up before and only Ryan Thipthorp said he does,,i reckon its a load of baloney but i only fish shallow waters i guess,,,,,,,,i know (commercial)pro squid pros dont even touch the jigs just throw them out and pull the squid in,,i have never been able to find out what type of jigs they use though,,,
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im a massive fan of the
im a massive fan of the whipping technique in winter months and sometimes a more gentle aproach in summer
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I use that "whipping"
I use that "whipping" technique all the time. When you have to 60m of line out and jig 5-6m down. The "whipping" helps move the squid jig and get the squid interested in the movement. Squid jigs also do dart like a soft plastic minnow as well. Twitching is another technique I use. You imagine a prawn moving along. A prawn dont slowling swim along when he sees a squid.....he darts and bolts away!!
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Handline and 20lb mono for me.
Always rigged and ready to go. Keep it in the glovebox. Beauty..
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sounds like alot of
sounds like alot of "whipping "of rods going on here hmmmmmmmmm
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that whipping your talking
that whipping your talking about could be quite painfull but if you take the guides of the blank first it might be exciting if your into that sort of stuff
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I might give the whipping a
I might give the whipping a go,,i can see how it can work in theory and would really attract the squid as it darts everywhere,,but i can get my limit in a hour or less sometimes trolling or drifting so it makes me wonder if theres any signicant advantages in it.
I think for shore based it would be a good idea as they can't move around freely and need to attract all the attention they can.
I reckon they should give out "egi" rods out at the squid comp, Stu who won the kayak section got a very nice rod but it was not a squid rod,,it would make more sense to me to award squid rods out,,BTW he is very wrapped in his prizes,thanks to all concerned.
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yeh but you dont need an 8ft
yeh but you dont need an 8ft rod for your kayak......trying fishing deeper areas (6-10m) and really work the jig deep.
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I didn't know squid fishing
I didn't know squid fishing can be such an expensive sport till I joined the comp heh.
Also, something I find interesting. With the squid lures, when we jig/ whip them, it's supposed to simulate a prawn darting away. But problem is prawns only dart backwards no? I only remember seeing prawns darting backwards when I had a tank back then.
Also with eyes as good as human's (I believe so?), I'm actually intrigued as to why the squids will fall for the lures. Of course they have small brains, but I guess they can see that the prawn's actually darting forward and that it's fake?
Any squid expert mind giving an insight?
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i seen people use modifyd
i seen people use modifyd prawnsarts lures with success eldwin , they take the rebles off and drill some holes and put a shortend squide spike through the middle
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can anyone recommend me a
can anyone recommend me a budget squid setup?
budget...max $500 for rod and reel and line...
egi egi egi
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Bilby for 500 bucks you
Bilby for 500 bucks you should be able to buy yourself something quite useable does not have to be top shelf to catch squid have a read of the other guys posts
you could buy yourself something like a 2500 sol with a rod to match or something cheaper at the end of the day as long as it catch's you squid thats the main thing but I will say for sure useing good quality squid jigs is a must if you really want to do well
are you fishing from boat or land
Nathan
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thanks...i was looking at a
thanks...i was looking at a td sol too..
whats the differece between a normal reel, and a 'squid reel' ?
im landbased... i want to be able to cast further...
egi egi egi
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If you want an actual squid
If you want an actual squid rod, which can be used for everything else. The Egi Force Type C is only $250. They available from Oceanside in O'Connor or Tackle Shack in Malaga. At the end of the day you wouldnt use a squid rod just for squid. It makes a great plastics rod from the beach and rocks.
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honsu, what's the diff
honsu, what's the diff between the Type B and Type C?
egi egi egi
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Bilby the emeraldas 2506
Bilby the emeraldas 2506 was designed for squidding from what a few of the jap guys told me whether that is true or not I bought it because of the good internals and paint job but any reasonable quality reel will do as wood a reasonable quality long light line rod does not have to be squid specific.unless thats what you want and you have dollars to spare have a look at the various different tackle stores talk to the guys and you will make up your mind what suits you.
I generally go for the top end gear thats just me
where as my mates use cheaper all round outfits but good quality jigs and they have no problem with their catch's
Nathan
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The Emeralda was not
The Emeralda was not designed for just squidding. Its MARKETED as a squid reel becoz of the finesse spool, which holds only 150m of PE 0.8 or 8lb braid and yes...the fancy paintjob.
The difference between the Type B and C is the blank and guides. The B uses a higher end graphite blank which is more responsive and lighter as well as using Fuji SiC guides and tip. The Type C uses lower end guides and non Fuji reel seat.
When you're landbased there's many times the weed bank is just a big further out. Most light 7ft rod just dont cast far enough or heavy enough weight. Im now looking at getting a 9ft version for even more distance to catch them bigger ones.
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Honsu Im going by what the
Honsu Im going by what the guy in Japan and Singapore told me who have been in the tackle game for 20 years either way its a pretty cool bit different the store I buy off has not steered me wrong so far hence have just ordered another 5 different reels from them not run off the mill
Nathan
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maybe what hoonsu is
maybe what hoonsu is implying is that the reel may have been designed with egi in mind but it also serves many other purposes ? none the less it is a sensational reel one that im sure many would love and it slays the squid just fine lol
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i also beleive you have to
i also beleive you have to look at the drag specs as a heavy rough will not do as the squid lunges you want a super smooth drag i use the infeet gekabijin worth $220 or close to ,that as i found it to have a super smooth drag and the reel was at the right price.
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cant say I have heard of
cant say I have heard of that one brenz is it available local or a import job?
Nathan
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it is available local was 1
it is available local was 1 of daiwas more latest releases
http://www.daiwafishing.com.au/images/reels-realfour/pic_infeet_lge.jpg
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I was under the impression
that the saltist gekkabijin was the original "egi" reel from Daiwa and not the emereldas?
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There's a new Emeralda out.
There's a new Emeralda out. Called the Emeralda Colossal for them BIG ONES!! 7kg of drag and eva POWER knob. Google THAT!!
The Gekka...is a light rock reel for catching them little rock fish/cod things in Japan. Also suitable for squidding but only comes in smaller 2000 size.
To be honest any finesse reel with smooth drag is good enough. Heck my mate uses a Stella 2500FD
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Stella 2500FD!
So i like quality when i egi LOL
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I have just ordered the
I have just ordered the Emeraldas Colossal 2508RHW with a few custom parts should recieve it next week
Nathan
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nice....
nice....
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might invest in a new reel
might invest in a new reel today i think
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any 1 squiddin today??????
any 1 squiddin today??????
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Give me a call brenz will
Give me a call brenz will probable head out later if it clears up
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to easy mate will get in
to easy mate will get in touch
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i'm glad all you guys
i'm glad all you guys understood the japanese guy, i couldnt understand a word
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Having swapped the pilbara
Having swapped the pilbara for bayside Melbourne I'm looking to get into the smaller spinning gear. If I ever do find someone with a boat then I'm happy using my existing big baitrunner, tld-15 etc for the larger fish. So I am looking for the most suitable reel for pier and rock fishing, with squid as the priority. I will be purchasing an egi rod.
My query is whether a 1000 series reel suitable for the egi rods, or is the 2500 the ideal match? Most people seem to be advocating using a 2500 reel with 6lb braid. When I visited a local tackle shop over the weekend the advice was that the 2500 size reel was no-mans land, and that I should ever use a 1000 or step up to 3000, when I said I was keen on squid he recommended a Daiwa 1000 matched to a Daiwa rod with 6lb braid.
I would very much appreciate feedback from your expertise.
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HI Brett Welcome to the
HI Brett
Welcome to the forum and may the force be with you....as you may need it for Melbourne fishing...lol JK
Its really horses for courses. We use the longer, 8ft+, rods simply cos it can cast further and help cover more ground. They're generally matched to 2500 size reels to balance up the extra length.
What the shop recommended is still good, you'll probably dont need long rods for casting distance, hence the smaller reel. The larger reel also helps pickup line quicker as you go through the jerking technique. I disagree 2500 reel been no-mans land type of reel. There are still a need for 2500 size reel. Infact, most people in the eastern states run 2500 size reel for when they are chasing bigger fish as well. It has the extra line capacity and line retrieve rate.
Again horses for courses. If the outfit feels like a balance outfit then thats all you need. If casting distance is an issue then go for a longer rod and bigger reel.
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thx for the quick follow-up,
thx for the quick follow-up, much appreciated :)
Back in 2003 I went on a chart in Port Phillip bay with a group of mates. Amongst the 150 undersize flathead caught and thrown back that, I
rather nonchalantly pulled in a 12lb snapper which at the time I thought was rather ho hum by Pilbara standards. But even the charter operator was semi-hysterical as the fish was landed. A
At that point I realised I'd should have made more of my time in the Pilbara :) And I started selling my biggest gear off on e-bay.
But now with a couple of mad keen kids I'm keen to take up some pier angling again. Pls PM rme e the Egi Rod, I spoke to one of your guys last Monday (Not Ryan who I spoke to on the Sunday) and he was going to call me back re air-freight options. I may have given a wrong number
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you dont need expensive
you dont need expensive flash rods to catch a couple of squid LOL ,
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Haha true
But spending the extra $$ for quality definitely improved my catch rate.
Just recently picked up a new rod and 8lb braid from Oceanside and had better results instantly.
Spending the $$ has helped my technique, helped me feel the jig way better and i'm enjoying myself way more.
Tax returns are awesome lol