Squiding Landbased

 I want to give squiding a shot seeing as winter has come but have never done it before.

I have two cheapies in 3.0 and 3.5, and a yo zuri in 3.0, but how do you guys work the jigs

and where? 

Anything appreciated, 

Andrew

____________________________________________________________________________

 Subway cookie is the best burley


Posts: 1676

Date Joined: 12/07/09

Most rock walls with weed and

Mon, 2011-05-16 21:42

Most rock walls with weed and minimal swell should hold squid. The best bet for squidding landbased is going SOR around freo. Best advice is to get more good jigs as they DO out fish ( out squid) the cheap ones.

As for technique cast a far as you can into weed beds and let the jig sink till it is almost on the bottom, then with a flick of the wrist lift the rod up and down 2 or 3 time is the standard but sometime i mix it up with more aggressive sometimes it 5 or 6 rips. This makes the jig dart from side to side and also lift it up in the water colum. Then you let it sink untill it is close to the bottom again and repeat untill you have one. I read an article from a good squidder and it said if your not getting snagged every now and again your not working it close enough to the bottom. If one retrieve doesnt work make more or less rips on the rod and see if that makes a difference. Ive sometime squidded a spot and used a slow retreve then as soon as i sped it up a bit i got squid. Its all about practice and finding what works well for you. Good luck.

Posts: 357

Date Joined: 17/05/09

Just twitch the rod tip to

Mon, 2011-05-16 21:43

Just twitch the rod tip to give the jig an action like a fleeing prawn i like to cast out let it sink to the bottom between weed beds give the rod 3 short jerks let it sink down wind in the slack and repeat unless im sight fishing of a jetty with lights then ill just cast to them and jerk the rod untill they grab the jig :P!

____________________________________________________________________________

I wanna get free! im gonna get free! right into the sun!

knigit's picture

Posts: 115

Date Joined: 19/12/10

Too easy!

Tue, 2011-05-17 08:46

Have just started squidding myself and have either been very lucky or it's the easiest way to catch a feed ever. Used the advice given above very successfully.

 

Would just add that you need to get a heap more jigs. Have seen lots of people saying that the more expensive jigs are better but for landbased I would suggest you stick to the cheapies.

You want to be right down near the weeds, and will no doubt loose a heap of jigs. I don't think that I would want to be letting my jig sink too far at $20 a pop rendering the fancy lure all but useless but at 3bucks a jig they only have to catch one squid to have paid for themselves. Go blow 30 dollars, get as many different colours and sizes as you can buy and start throwing them at some weed. Salt and pepper squid for me tonight

Posts: 1676

Date Joined: 12/07/09

Expensive jigs are the most

Tue, 2011-05-17 10:35

Expensive jigs are the most important part about landbased squidding. Some places have 50 people working them at the same time and most of them will be using cheap jigs. While they still might get the odd one the people that have the better jigs catch more. I only use good jigs now because i was one of those people that squidded with cheap jigs but after getting out squidded buy people with good jigs i finaly got some and now im seeing the results for my self. I witnessed it the other week, there was 10 people working a likely squid spot with cheap jigs and they hadnt caught anything and third cast with a good jig resulted in me getting a squid followed but 5 more while they hadnt caught anything.

The reson the good ones work is because they've been designed to sink right and work through the water as natural as possible. There finish is also better and they last 20 times longer then cheap jigs. IMO i would rather spend 20 bucks on a jig that lasts a couple of years ( if you dont snag it) then buying a cheap one that only last a few sessions. Ive been squidding for almost two years and ive only lost two jigs they were in the river. Most of the time when you get snagged you can just point the rod at the lure and pull tight and it will pull through the snag.

Im not saying that for your first times squidding you go and buy a heap of good jigs because the chances are on your first few sessions you might lose them but as soon as you feel comfortable buy the better quality ones and you will see the results your self.

Shorty's picture

Posts: 1549

Date Joined: 10/05/08

The last two jigs i brought

Tue, 2011-05-17 11:57

The last two jigs i brought on Saturday (Gancraft) are $35 each,,i consider $20 jigs to be cheap and nasty

 

But you can't go wrong with anything under $50, you may catch 200 or more squid on the jig its amazing value when you add up the returns on your investment.

knigit's picture

Posts: 115

Date Joined: 19/12/10

He he. At 35 per jig I'd be

Tue, 2011-05-17 12:23

He he. At 35 per jig I'd be more likely to catch a tailor coz the jig would just about be waterskiing at the speed I'd be reeling it in

hlokk's picture

Posts: 4290

Date Joined: 04/04/08

I'd much rather use 2

Tue, 2011-05-17 12:53

I'd much rather use 2 expensive jigs (not necessarily $35, but some good ones in the $16-22 range) than 10 cheapos. You'll catch more squid. Might be easy to have a $3 jig pay for itself quickly, but if you have 10 of them and they catch half as many squid then you'd be ahead on a $30 jig anyways ;) Seeing as you'd have to make each of the 10 pay for itself :p. Quality over quantity ;) Plus, (hopefully) you're time is important too. Otherwise you're making all the effort to go down to the rocks and fish for a while getting 2 squid versus 5 squid ;)

To be honest, for most squidding, you'd only need 2 or 3 jigs anyways. Have one 2.5 at least, then the other two in different colours and you're done. Hard to use a lot more jigs than that in a session anyways (of course more is nicer!). The yozuri flashdancers or yamashita auri-q's are great jigs and under $20. Fair few other brands do good jigs for about that range.

 

Danno gave some great tips. Occasionally getting weed means you're in the right zone, but squid can come up to hit jigs too (better off just above though). You can count down your timing to get an idea of how deep your jig is too. Using thin fluorocarbon leader will definitely help with strikes (squid have keen eyes). If you use 10lb to start with, you have a very good chance of getting it out of any weed stuck. Some brands are a lot thinner too (nitlon FC sucks!). As you get more confident you can downsize. Make sure you tie a strong knot! No point using 10lb line with a weak knot when you could use 6lb line with a good knot, get the same breaking strength and have a thinner leader.

Try mixing the retreives up til you find what works. Try pausing longer/shorter, more erratic jerks, etc. Its very helpful to try the actions out when you can see the jig so it gives you an idea of whats happening when you cant see it. E.g. if you jerk it when the lures not perfectly straight, you get more darting than if you'd winded it in a little just before. If you can, try to meet up with other squidders to get an idea of their techniques. You should learn a lot, and always good to fish with like minded company. Once you start getting a few squid, the next few will be a lot easier, so keep at it!

MickyDav's picture

Posts: 149

Date Joined: 15/11/09

We did it on the cheap on

Tue, 2011-05-17 13:59

We did it on the cheap on sunday night just using a mulie on a set of gangs and got a good feed from the rocks , yummo.

 

Mike.

mallesh's picture

Posts: 254

Date Joined: 18/11/10

Well said danno, shorty and hlokk

Tue, 2011-05-17 16:04

I am still new to this squidding game and from my very minimal experience I have learnt expensive  jigs does the trick.

As we all know quality cost more.

On sunday there were 4 people on the rocks and I caught some beauties at 3:1 ratio, coz the others where using wrong colour and cheap jigs.

so for land based squidding you need quality, colour and basic technique as the experts above said.

____________________________________________________________________________

Keep Fishing. Stay Relaxed.

Posts: 521

Date Joined: 03/04/10

 Thanks alot, I think all i

Tue, 2011-05-17 16:35

 Thanks alot, I think all i have to do is get down to the rockwalls and give it a crack.

So i'll buy another 2 yo-zuri's or the like, size 2.5 what you guys recomend?

____________________________________________________________________________

 Subway cookie is the best burley

hlokk's picture

Posts: 4290

Date Joined: 04/04/08

If LB, I would only go one

Tue, 2011-05-17 16:55

If LB, I would only go one 2.5 because they wont cast as far and take ages to sink :p One the plus side, at least they'll get down eventually (unlike a boat with a fast drift)

Posts: 1676

Date Joined: 12/07/09

Size also depends on the

Tue, 2011-05-17 17:43

Size also depends on the location. Not point going and buying 3.0's-3.5s if you are going to squid at places like woodies often as it is to shallow to work them for the right amount of time.

Most of the time landbased i use a 3.0 to start with then if im getting snagged to easly then ill change it down to like a 2.5 or if im not more conection with the bottom ill go to a 3.5.

Like hlokk said there is heaps of options in the 20 dollar mark. Yo zuri auri Q, Yo zuri neo Q, Yo zuri Ace, Yamshita's in most ranges good cheaper ( 17-19 dollars), Daiwa Emeraldas and also a great smaller jig 2.2s are the Yamashita Naory range hunter these jigs are awsome if there is heaps of other people squidding and also if the squid are on the small size or timid. If you can then strech your budget to 22ish dollors then you can get Harimistu's, Kanji normal clicks, Shimano Keimura, Yamashita Q live, Evergreens and a few more. Then if you get more serious you can then step up to Flashdancers ( 27 dollars i believe) Kanji ProClicks ( 35 dollars) and Gancraf as Shorty has mentioned.

The first few good jigs i got were the Diawa Emeraldas then before i used them i got some Yo zuri. I now normaly squid with the harimitsu's, Shimano's and Evergreens.

Squidding is a fun exiting form of fishing that keeps me coming back for more. One thing as you might have picked up is that squidding does get expensive. Good luck.

hlokk's picture

Posts: 4290

Date Joined: 04/04/08

Flash dancers are 23-24, and

Tue, 2011-05-17 19:42

Flash dancers are 23-24, and often you can find them for 20 if you know where to look. (sometimes cheaper in sale). Certainly my favourite jig.

Posts: 1676

Date Joined: 12/07/09

Yer ive got two i got them on

Tue, 2011-05-17 20:44

Yer ive got two i got them on sale fore 13 bucks each im not shore im a fan but they are pretty good.

Have you used much of the harimitsu's?

 

Posts: 521

Date Joined: 03/04/10

Where do you get your jigs

Wed, 2011-05-18 06:56

Where do you get your jigs from?

____________________________________________________________________________

 Subway cookie is the best burley

knigit's picture

Posts: 115

Date Joined: 19/12/10

Aww shucks, looks like I'll

Wed, 2011-05-18 07:42

Aww shucks, looks like I'll be taking out a second mortgage and giving some of the more expensive ones a go.

Posts: 1676

Date Joined: 12/07/09

Just start out with a couple

Wed, 2011-05-18 17:10

Just start out with a couple of good ones. Your landbased yer? Get some of the Yo-zuri Aces in the 3.0 there around the 18 buck mark then get a couple of Yamashita range hunters in the 2.2s. 4 Decent jigs is all you might need for the first few sessions untill you see how good they really are and they are GREAT. It gets a addicting tho so be careful or as you said get a mortgage sorted:)

Posts: 521

Date Joined: 03/04/10

 Do squid pull hard, or is it

Wed, 2011-05-18 18:25

 Do squid pull hard, or is it just the thrill of deceiving one onto your jig and the exitement you get from it?

____________________________________________________________________________

 Subway cookie is the best burley

Hazell's picture

Posts: 194

Date Joined: 26/10/09

They don't pull hard usually

Wed, 2011-05-18 18:35

They don't pull hard usually but some of the big ones may take a few turns of drag on ultra light gear. They pulse when hooked and it's a really weird feeling on the rod the firs ttime you hook one. It's more about fooling them (sometimes hard, sometimes no challenge) and they taste awesome. One of the few things I keep.

____________________________________________________________________________

Ash Hazell

"A cast a day keeps the psychiatrist away"

Posts: 1676

Date Joined: 12/07/09

Yer like hazell said its

Wed, 2011-05-18 19:04

Yer like hazell said its about tricking them into taking a piece of plastic which at times is easy but its the tough times that make you respect them. The pluse also is what i like about squidding just a relaxed pulsing away donno why but love it. Then there is the eating qualities which most people will know is SUPERB.

Spence's picture

Posts: 302

Date Joined: 09/08/10

I think its obvious. I agree

Wed, 2011-05-18 07:55

I think its obvious. I agree expensive are the best. i like Yozuri's & Yamas myself. Always a well balanced and coloured variety for your pickings. (pink for day, black for night for me). Trying a shimano one at the moment, think its just as good if not better for a few $ cheaper than the imports. 

Put it this way, got 15 in 45 mins land based mon night, and multiple times before that over the last few weeks. While others only get 3-6. Look for hiding spots, weed, rocks, boat ramps, jetties. And imitate a prawn. Expensive jigs generally can be retrieved slower i've found due to better balancing, gives squid more time to see it. 

____________________________________________________________________________

 -Spence

Insta: @wafishingofficial

Posts: 1676

Date Joined: 12/07/09

The shimanos arnt that much

Wed, 2011-05-18 17:07

The shimanos arnt that much cheaper if at all cheaper then most of the yo-zuris, yama's. They are a great jig if only they came in more of a range of colours, i also feel that they are a jigs that are made to work slower say 2-3 jigs at most on the rerive then wind the slack and go on as they are a wider jig and after casting if for a while you get a little more tired then the others. ( thats in the 3.5 models).

I find that pink and orange is an all time colour and the browns and blacks for clear water or for night time. I dont know what it is but i would have thought that a pink jig would get more interest at night then the browns but i find that browns are great at night but then the fluro jigs catch more then all of them haha. Good to have a nice range and mix it all up.

My favourite jigs at the moment are the Harimistu's and the Yamashita Naory range hunters. But if they dont work ill chose something else its all about mixing it up till you get results.

Spence's picture

Posts: 302

Date Joined: 09/08/10

Matter of own opinion & trial and error.

Thu, 2011-05-19 09:42

Each to their own on technique, if you use that then good if it works for you. 2.5s all i use and its got me squid from 10cm to 40cm hoods all LB, 3.5s are for deep water and big sqiud. Watch a prawn and learn how it moves is my advice for technique. They swim smoothly, and flee when in danger. Adjust this to different depths. 
Shimano's were $7 cheaper at my shop at $18. as opposed to $24-26 on yozuri's + yama's (no specials). Opaque Pink is all i need and shimano had it.
Considering my freezer has well over 100 squid atm prepped an cleaned for bait n eating says it all with very little time investment over the last couple of weeks, maybe 6hrs total? and all land based. Some guys on here have seen the photos over the last few weeks. 
I haven't changed my tecnniques in over 10 years. Thats opaque/clear pinks at light, black at dark. Never needed to mix it up, yet i have 8 other colours which i let friends pick n choose. They work, but not as well most of the time. Prawns are naturally opaque, hence why I got for the clear bodies for my day jigs. 

In my own theory, to explain why a dark colour works so well at night, hold it up into the moonlight. or lighter surface (simulates moon/clouds in the sky). See which one stands out more to your own vision. Same goes for bright pink under a beating sun, pinks stand out like dog balls, while blacks/darker obsorb colour. Simple science really. All my jigs, the dark jigs have glow in dark eyes and lighter coloured jigs don't, is this coincidence? i'm not sure and i'm no jig expert, just the ones i've bought have these traits. Maybe i've just been lucky? Someone can correct me on this though, i'm sure manufacturers mix it up to make it harder to choose a jig. Dead set, its like a fat kid in a candy store choosing a jig now a days. Took me near on half an hour last time to choose between opaque pink jigs. Shimano won being cheaper this time round, won't be back until i lose one.  

End of the day, thats my opinion. Might help you, or you might disagree.

____________________________________________________________________________

 -Spence

Insta: @wafishingofficial

claymore's picture

Posts: 225

Date Joined: 11/01/11

squid

Wed, 2011-05-18 16:46

all this squiding talk is making me wanna have a sicky tomorrow.

 

Teflon Coated's picture

Posts: 33

Date Joined: 28/03/11

Squid in Coral bay

Thu, 2011-05-19 11:02

Gday fellas,

Spent a few days in Coral Bay last week, it didnt matter what lure you used or how you retreived it! The squid were everywhere, every second cast!

I had enough for a feed in a couple of drifts and was throwing them back. Cant go past the Yozuri's (love the pink!)

Cheers Russ

____________________________________________________________________________

RUSS - Another punter in the Pilbara!