Pretty sure we got the message buddy!!
and yes I'm a essential worker like

yourself .. let's hype down the message

for the elderly and whole community..

and pray for some normality..  

No bloody way. Just out of curiosity how many patients have you treated?

personally i think it is a pretty useful idea. I would have to look into the security of it before i took it up, but if that can be reassured i would consider it.

 Hell No. They track me enough with out giving them the rights

Not one jim and fair enough.. all I'm

saying is through the media radio..

we have the message loud and clear

Let's just relax the message a little.. 

I have consoled that many elderly 

last few weeks. Just saying we need too 

take one step back but not relapse in 

anyway , cransy I commend your efforts 

and thank you on your service too the 

community .. cheers pirate.. 

What app? Where can I download it? 

If only we could trust the Government...nothing to hide but no thanks.

On the other side..Corona take 2...if the Government had track of all Aust people would re-acting to another threat like this be easier to control ?

 I'm ok with it.

Agree, thanks.  The deaths in other countries are very scary, and we seem to have done well so far.

The government position to review “lockdown” if there is a measure to monitor “contacts” makes sense.

 It's just pinging taken to the next level

 I'll download the app if it helps to control COVID-19. IMO, if you have any form of smart technology these days like phone etc, the government, if they have a reason to, can already spy on you. none of us have full privacy anymore anyway.

The government want at least 40% take up for it to be effective. 50% of Australians downloaded the Pokemon go app. We obviously don't mind giving private companies very similar info. I'll be in if it helps.

 If it saves lives you'd have to be stupid to not want to.

well ill go out on a limb ........and i dont consider myself stupid , lol

its a no for me ,

this a tad over the top imo , people are dying all over the world every min from something ...and that is sad and tragic and i feel for anyone who has suffered this way from it

however there are other ways to manage this and so far without the app we have done ok `especially in wa

the world has other big issues to contend with imo , which need to be dealt with like the 200 k that are added to our planet every day .or 80 million a year ..how many years can we keep doing that before we end up with some massive problems that will make covid look a lot less of a problem imo ??

two days of the current birth rate has repopulated every person plus on the planet who has died from covid world wide so far !!!

that sounds cold and harsh , which i dont mean it to be , but it is an unavoidable fact at some point our health system has all potential be truly overwhelmed anyway , same with food and water etc

somewhere down the track gov or a world gov will need to cull or remove the population or humanity will implode one way or the other from the drain we place on our planet

this and other types of measures are imo a slow move in removing freedoms

fire at will .............

hezzy

I can't believe anyone would willingly want to be tracked by the goverment let alone download an app to make it easier. I wonder how many of these overnight laws will get reversed once all this is over. You can pass anything you want if you argue from a point of authority; don't you want to beat this virus? Don't you want to beat the terrorists? 

I saw on the department of health website that the WA police just spent X amount of millions on drones and cameras with automatic number plate recognition to "track non-isolators". When this covid 19 is beaten I can assure you they won't get won't get thrown in the bin. 

 Agree Hezzy,

If you are mates with Elon Musk he may be able to save you and shift you off to Mars or the likes but at the rate we are going food/water/air quality/global warming etc etc etc is an issue...

Thankfully China had a one child policy for years...

Countries should have population restrictions of some sort...

 Covid 19 is the best thing to happen to this planet in recent history,

let it rip !! if your healthy and eat clean ( like all humans should) then the chances of fatality are very slim ! 

if your unhealthy, drinks beer all day and eat meat pies for breakfast then ask your body to look after you, good luck...

herd immunity !! 

Lynny you sir are a fucking  idiot, that was definitely the most fucked up comment ive  read  i dont  even know where to start with you , do us all a favor  and get off this site your comments  are not welcome  your just a fucktard 

 I just had a pie  it's all over especially when you count all the beers I had last night 

 Ok, I am abit slow on the uptake some times.......

Can someone explain why the app is so bad?

My take is that it tracks who you meet, or have close contact with. In the event that you or someone you have meet gets COV 19 they can trace contacts and inform them to isolate.

What harm can it do?

walfootrot

as an example ...
well remember when you first got a bankcard ?? in the 80s or where given info from the bank about them , ?? how good they where , no fees , etc ?? back then i got paid in little yellow envelopes with cash and most of us went into a bricks and mortar bank with staff , ??

bankcards where pushed as the best thing since sliced bread, then over time as more people got a bankcard, the fees started being applied the higher interest rates where applied , especially for cash out ?? atm fees where ramped up , especially if you did not use your bank atm ,, , real banks lost staff in the tens of thousands all over the country .. , credit atm fees where applied in any place you used the card,, retail pubs , fuel etc not just atms

then banking went online , no fees to start with ... how about now ?? how about banking security online ?/ is your personal info safe ?? etc

now the gov is introducing a law to ban cash transactions over 10k , punishable with 2 years gaol if caught with more than 10k in cash ,

mortgage interest rates are low ?/yes , how do they compare at moment to credit card interest rates ?/

this is just one example how things that start of for one purpose can move in different directions over time and not for the better ,,,,,imo

and as i wrote before given our low covid cases , im not sure its needed ,

when other means seem to have had success

if you took the cruise ships out , how low would it be ?

If you are really worried about Covid 19 its a good idea to drop a few kilos and get healthy. Obesity is why America is getting fucked by the virus, 40% of americans are obese.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8233519/Being-overweight-puts-people-greater-risk-hospitalised-coronavirus.html

I believe.not on my to do list.

 Simo the ones who are dying in the USA paid no attention on the day of prayer...

Which is probably also the case in Indo, those that weren't praying hard enough ended up feet in the air...

I'm praying hard for the fat fuckers in the states...

I pray they get through it so they can be back eating deep fried mars bars washed down with diet coke!!

I'm also still praying that old Donald gets a touch of the China virus...

I will consider using the app after I have had a good look, guess it all depends on what your priorities are, much the same as whether someone gives a shit following the guidelines and recommendations on how to stop the spread of the virus.

 is this Covid fightclub?

 I'm cautious but Google already knows our movements anyway. What would be the downside of downloading the app and then deleting it once this is all over? Can the govt install something in our phones that would allow them to continue to track our location? If so then I'd be much less likely to download it.

but from what I have read the app doesn't track your geolocation so it's not actually tracking your movements.  It is recording your proximity to others with the app.  Either way if it helps, why not.  Having said that I don't own a mobile phone so I'm not much help. 

 If anyone wants to track where I'm going go for it, i go to work ,shops, outings,stay at home,out to sea, pretty boring really.

Yep I don't have anything to hide either so I agree that if it helps I have no problem with it. PM said that better tracing capability is one of the things that need to be in place before restrictions can be eased so I'm leaning towards it.

current ratio is 3 deaths per million of our population for covid 19

0 new cases in wa in last 24 hours

think the health dept could trace that without the phone app ?

 Yep again agree Hezzy,

Whilst we've dodged a bullet here its a bloody good example of what can happen if you've got an egotistical maniac or just plain unlucky ( Italy )...

Maybe things will be far worse here next time around...

Could be a good time to throw some funds into the S & P 500, things are pretty dire over there but they will recover. Donald unless he gets a decent dose of the Wuhan he will again ( unfortunately for the rest of the world ) get re-elected and watch the economy over there again go boom.

Why the F do the black americans vote for him??? Is it the $9/hr they can get when jobs growth is up?

They are a strange mob, just watch Tiger King as an example :)

Of course it is still very serious but when you look at our closest neighbour they will be in some real strife one would suspect.

While America will be no doubt the highest death toll recorded, Indo will surpass them but a government like Indo will be like that of Iran.

The truth will never be known...

in Europe, 100000 dead and still counting

 The WHO have said that tracking contacts is one of the keys to this thing not getting worse as we try to ease restrictions. Worth being open-minded IMO

Is that the Wuhan Health Organisation?

 Tell em they're dreamin

yeah the pricks have made some fuck ups alright. How about being responsible for the deaths hundreds of thousands of people world wide.
If it weren't for them bullshitting along with China to the world how it doesn't spred person to person things would have could have turned out differently.

this is an interesting take on the covid issue below

should we lock down at all ?/

is the cure worse that the disease ?/

pretty cold and brutal type of discussion on the pros and cons of either option
https://au.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-economist-slammed-horrible-lockdown-idea-013505468.html

on a side note bloke i know today told me he has lost 2 mates in last week between ages of 38and 46, , one was an overdose , one was a suicide

no perfect solution in any of this

hezzy

 So what is the number of deaths by COV 19 thats acceptable to allow us to open?

Should we be following the US lead?

 I kind of agree with how she thinks from a Kimberley perspective.We have the most restrictive lockdown rules up here aimed at looking after the indigenous population, yet I can still drive past the town oval any hour of the day or night and see large groups of them sitting together not giving a shit about anything and nothing being done to stop them congregating together. I am starting to think we should get on with life and let the virus sort out the weak and save the economy of our town. 

Can't imagine being married to that! Kinda reminded me of that anti-fishing nutjob from UWA.

I get her point but like Walfootrot says above, how many deaths are acceptable? The Swedish model would maybe translate to another 4,000 - 5,000 deaths nationally so far based on their numbers and they got their first case nearly 3 weeks after we did. They have lost 175 people per million versus our 3. Their mortality rate of closed cases is 76% versus ours of 1% so there's a lot to be said for ensuring the heathcare system isn't swamped and overloaded. Their death toll is rising pretty sharply so it's a worry to think where it will end. Much like the US but theirs was more of a case of too little too late. There are clear indictions in both countries that there were some very incorrect assumptions made and some fuckups to go with them, rather than actually planning for mass infection.

This is worth a look https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/swedish-coronavirus-no-lockdown-model-proves-lethal-by-hans-bergstrom-2020-04

I know there are other things at play in Sweden like the ski holidays in Italy but I'm still very pleased that we took a different approach. Maybe I'm just selfish because I have a number of friends and family that would likely succumb if they got this fucking thing. Either way from some good sources I believe WA may soften some restrictions that go beyond the Federal Government's guidelines after the long weekend and hopefully more broadly mid-May. Fingers crossed.

another article on sweden
with their attitude of let in roll on through

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/a-disaster-waiting-to-happen-or-a-bold-evidence-based-response-in-sweden-it-depends-who-you-ask/ar-BB1308Gd?ocid=spartanntp

bit extreme

but worth the read imo once acceptance is given over

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-18/china-social-credit-a-model-citizen-in-a-digital-dictatorship/10200278?nw=0&pfmredir=sm&fbclid=IwAR03QREfTzxnpJreteP2Pi0FH6obsGa7IipH0kGEnJqpEfpImllbPmZ2dQI

 Get real

This app will just allow us to very quickly trace contacts.

Stop the spread.ving

Data gone in I think 21 days.

Stay on your phone only and with your permission released if you test positive.

Don't add bullshit conspiracy theories to this potential life saving modern technology.

If I was positive I would like everyone close to me to know asap 

Done

lol jeez settle down crasny ...

your a tad bitey mate

.. and dont talk about bullshit ... please

i seriously doubt we will see too many more people test positive if we continue as we all are at present

hezzy

App is available now. I just downloaded it, I’m not worried as we are being tracked anyway through Facebook and other apps. 

 turn your data roaming off and gps. you only need data when going on internet.....

 Downloaded. 

Woolworths track what i buy through their card as do Coles

Bunnings track what i buy through their discount card

Signed onto Google recently? it tracks what you look at hence the adds.

Facebook and Instagram do the same too. Downloaded TikTok or that app that made you look old? 

Downloaded. If you’re up to no good police can seize your phone anyway. Gumtree google eBay Facebook etc etc all track your searches