Trading games
Submitted by Dale on Fri, 2018-10-12 15:07
Don’t underestimate Belly
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timboon
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If i am right makes me
If i am right makes me curious as to who might want Patton, seems like a player that would fit at Hawthorn when the big Rang retires....
Get him cheap enough then perhaps they might consider....
Is WC going to have a play at Kelly?
If he stays at Geelong this year it makes his 2019 season interesting, backs it up and WC might be paying more, gets injured or finds it tough then they might not even want him....
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Not for pick 20, 22 and next
Not for pick 20, 22 and next year's first round pick. Fuck me, he's their 5th midfielder who didn't have a man running with him all season. I reckon 20 and 22 is overs especially when you consider we are already adding Gaff, Shep and (possibly) NicNat to our premiership 22 and we could use one of those picks to grab Schloithe who beat Kelly is the Sandover in 2017.
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timboon
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I'm thinking that Port got a
I'm thinking that Port got a good deal out of the Hawks for Wingard
Burton P15 P35 and future 3rd
For Wingard and future 4th
I think i've got the 3rd n 4th in the right order there but yeah anyway i cant help think that Port did pretty well there.....
Dale
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It’s all unfolding now, 6 & 19 to Freo for Neale so far.
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Freo will be happy with that
Freo will be happy with that
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They've secured Hogan and
They've secured Hogan and Lobb
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May and Kade Kolo to the
May and Kade Kolo to the Dees for P6
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Freo have effectively gone from
#6, #81, full deck next year + Neale to #14, #43, #47, #49, #55, #65, #81, Hogan, Lobb"Just because you are a Character, Doesn't mean you have Character."
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Hogan, the broken down,
Hogan, the broken down, chainsmoking, pisswreck who’s in Bali sucking back on the shabu shabu pipe according to Dale haha
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timboon
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My concern for Freo now
My concern for Freo now is....
The youngsters trying to compete in a depleted midfield with an ageing ruckman to get supply to Lobb and Hogan.....
The other concern for mine is are they wanting to go home and play football for ultimate success or is this just a going through the motions thing....
Play a bit of footy, get paid a shitload, party it up and go down that path many before them have done....
Its the best forward line argueably now the Dockers have ever had so kicking goals if they get supply shouldnt be an issue.....
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get ya hand of it
get ya hand of it boon...ageing ruck man ?? Sandi will be a mentor!!
Eagles need Kelly...fill in for the missing "flying pissed pushed the wife ryan"!
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Just need Belly to Phuk Ross
Just need Belly to Phuk Ross off and bring in Sumich!!...recon Ross will go before end of year if there isnt a big turn around in performance.
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Get your hand off it Brock,
Get your hand off it Brock, Ross is the boss.....
Ross to coach this year and depending on two things, the Bombers season and also how the Dockers go with now no excuses as to whether Woosha comes back to the West and takes the lead at Freo....
Belly needs to have a quiet few weeks after talking so much shit these past few days...
timboon
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Its been funny listening to
Its been funny listening to the callers calling AFL trade radio from the Eagles, all with their backs up feeling so sorry for Kelly and hating on Geelong for the ground they are standing....
Would have been hilarious if he only wanted to goto the Dockers and then we would have had to listen to the shit the Eagles would have spun....
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Peter Sumich...
Surely Peter Sumich would get the job , but only if every other possible coach in the league died unexpectedly... Worst option there could possibly be.. Logistics of Carrots, cabbages and other vegetables give Sumich a headache let alone trying to coach properly..
On a side note, the word on the street is that this whole Liam Ryan thing regarding his missus hitting the pavement outside the Kalbarri Motel at 4.30am last weekend is a real media beatup.
Liam Ryans girlfriend and the pavement outside the Kalbarri Motel are actually friends - they were playing golf together last week apparently, just waiting on Trevor Nisbett to confirm but he's pretty sure they are mates....
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Genuinely lost it laughing at
Genuinely lost it laughing at that first paragraph haha. Gold Disco
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Freo making another play for Kelly with pick 14
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Kelly
Glad the Dockers didn't get Kelly, rather have at least 1 first round pick, he is a gun but only first year. Nice pickup with Colyer for some depth.
Also glad for the Eagles they didn't throw the kitchen sink at him, seriously they won the GF with this midfield and your going to add Gaff so it just wasn't worth it.
He'll be back to WC next year more than likely, don't change much when you win the flag surely..
Dale
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Talks between West Coast and Geelong have fallen over, Kelly stays with the cats.
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Keeping him warm for us Dale
Keeping him warm for us Dale ;)
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Wellcome back
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Really sad to hear that
Really sad to hear that Kelly will have to spend another year away from family because WC coudnt see past their noses....
Add a Geelong gun to the Gaff, Sheppard, Nic Nat to the premiers side and surely they'd be thinking back to back....
Perhaps they'd rather be a mediocre side for longer rather than have ultimate success...
WC trade period is a fail
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Tipping the Eagles for the
Tipping the Eagles for the spoon again, Wallsy?
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Only your rabble would have
Only your rabble would have given wayyyy overs for an overrated player... oh wait, you did. Rolled over just like they have the past two finals series.
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Freo well done, you seem to
Freo well done, you seem to have come through the trade period a better side...
timboon
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I just am really feeling for
I just am really feeling for Tim and his family right now, imagine the heart ache and pain...
Come on WC you can do better - please please for his sake...
Oh well
Has Liam re offended yet or is he still locked up?
MyDisco2
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Poor Kelly
"It was disappointing for Tim because he really wanted to be back in Perth" for family reasons but he wouldn't entertain going to the Dockers..
Dont blame anyone for having a first choice and really don't care if he came to Freo or not, but if he was really keen he would have taken a 3 year $500k ish deal with Freo.
The eagles players will be treating him like a cousin this season... The talk is just all crap, he just wanted to go to Eagles and who could blame him.
Disco.
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I just I just I just feel
I just I just I just feel sad...
I just feel like this is a real Cersei Lannister walk of shame now for Timothy....
Wow this is the brutal reality of footy setting in, a young fella that really wanted his wife and conjoined twins to have some help....
West Coast seem so hell bent on providing lame statements on the meth head alcaholic from boongsville ( gerro ) and protecting him because he can jump like a bloke thats just stolen something from a back yard and over the fence it just seems sad.....
Bloody hell, he's the sort of bloke the Saudi's should be taking to with a bone saw....
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Cersei would do it much better than Kelly though.
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Dustin Martin attempted a
Dustin Martin attempted a similar move for personal/financial reasons a few years ago - no-one bit, he took a pay cut, stayed at Richmond and won a Brownlow and a premiership. Not all bad news for Kelly I reckon
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Bargain pick..
So who's the bargain pick of the trade period?
Im thinking Aaron Hall to North Melbourne for pick 68 a bit of a bargain, but also Scully to Hawks for a future 4th round pick is right up there..
Also reckon Dom Tyson to Roos for Pruess the second string ruck and pick 62 is good value. Reckon Norths did ok this year.
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Pruess a great pick at his
Pruess a great pick at his age, the Dees have ten years of not having to worry about a ruck position...
Hall a gun, played in a side it would be hard to remain motivated so will do well at Nth...
Scully and Scrimshaw very cheap for Hawks....
timboon
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May and Kolo to the Dees was
May and Kolo to the Dees was also cheap.....
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Forgot about young
Forgot about young Scrimshaw/Rimjaw.. If he can turn it up under Clarko might prove why he was number 7 in 2016 draft and prove a cheapie indeed..
Still think Burton is destined to be a gold label dual position player but could end up a crab at Port...
Gold Coast must be a lock for 18th on the ladder next year.. If they weren't in a rugby state with the full financial
might of the afl at their disposal you would just fold em up now...
But traded all their good players out, will get some good youth this year but they will take years to develop, and still
Mickey Barlow can't get a game.. Stuey Dew destined to be turned over again in a year or so...
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Finally got to see some news
Finally got to see some news today and saw Freo did really well, always been a fan of colyer.
WTF, Karl Langdon, who the hell is that muppet ? I had to look up who he was ! Came out bagging everyone.
Kelly just wanted the eagles, total bullshit in regards to family, anyone decent bloke would put family first and not make up crap and just move for their benefit.
Peter sumich has always been an assistant for a reason, so no from me to taking over from Ross next year.
And finally, Belly needs to piss off that stifiling, boring, arrogant coach.
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Wow No Run...
Langdon is a reporter, and at that he's about as good at that as he was as he played...
Agree about Kelly, life cant be too difficult in Vic.... So suck a Sav
Finally, i've said it once i've said it 50000 times sacking the coach will set you back ten years, suck the Ross Sav and see....
I think perhaps the Dorkers are potentially on the up.....
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And i totally agree Disco,
And i totally agree Disco, GC will be a lock for no.1 draft pick in 2020
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Nope, Nada, never ever ever
Nope, Nada, never ever ever agree timboon, you can say it 15k times :-) haha ! I see your point but totally disagree, Ross is a dead set flog bag, he is the worst coach in the afl at the moment, by a long shot. Give him bloody 5 mill for all I care.
I actually thought Langdon was a carpet salesman, or pools or some shit, I just remember his ranga mug on tv ads.
I'm hoping belly ruffles quite a few feathers to be honest, Freo needs it, not just for the fans but the players as well.
Belly lost an opportunity not to show the door to bennell.
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Just oooone more chance
Just oooone more chance Harley. I wonder what Bricktop would be thinking of Belly right about now
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You just worry about your
You just worry about your own back yard Frost...
Seems like there is trouble brewing...
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pretty happy with beams and roughead
now to pick up a couple of next generation players
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Happy
Pretty Happy with the way the Eagles trade period tuned out. Kelly is a good player but in my opinion he wasn't worth what we offered so Im glad Geelong knocked it back. Now we have 2 picks in the 20's to pick up some young talent... Pick up Schloithe who beat Kelly in the Sandover haha.
Dockers did well. Fyfe will have a double shoulder reconstruction half way through the season carrying the midfield. No point getting A-Grade forwards when you cant get them the ball.
If Kelly was so desperate to come home he would have gone to Freo so I don't really feel sorry for him. What happens next year? Still have to trade for him? I don't know how the free agency, restricted free agency thing works after only 2 years on a list
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I said it in an earlier post
I said it in an earlier post that Kelly, as good as his first season was, is Geelong's 5th midfielder and didn't have a man all season and is 24 years old so his instant impact will be very close to his ceiling. He would have got off the leash at West Coast too and would have been the cherry on the top of a premiership midfield to still include Gaff and was worth a red hot crack and it was dissapointing that a deal couldn't be done but not crucial.
West Coast went hard and offered overs and Geelong wanted to bend us over even further so good on West Coast for not getting reemed and good on Geelong for not letting a player go who they believe will be a key ingredient them winning a flag in 2019. Not often you see the dog wag the tail these days in the AFL. I'd have rather we went hard at Jack Martin if we were looking at entertaining what Geelong wanted.
We filled the only need we have in a fill in ruckman and I'm pretty happy we're going into this supposed superdraft with picks 20 and 22 and we'll also pickup Jarad Cameron with one of our later picks under our academy. One of those picks may be worth using on a mature ager like a Schloithe who is a goal kicker with a strong mark and can crumb the ball and could play Lecca's high half forward role or Jai Bolton could be worth a look too but I've read he has 'defensive deficiencies ' in his game.
Anywho, we'll be adding Gaff, Shep and NicNat to a side that won the flag so guess I'll have to deal with the dissapointment of that
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Yep 3 guns to come back with
Yep 3 guns to come back with a fucking hunger to cook up another flag.
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The Frenchman has snatched it.
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Brilliant career marred by
Brilliant career marred by injury and topped off with a medal. Doesn't get much sweeter than that.
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Yep well done to Mark Le
Yep well done to Mark Le Cras he can hold his head high....
Seemed like a top bloke, always was a fair player with skills to boot, not many can lay claim to kicking a bag of 12!!!
Jack when you say Kelly is their 5th midfielder how do you mean?
I'd nearly say he was there no. 1 mid this year, had a better season than Capt Joel, better than Duncan, Danger was played mostly fwd, Guthrie and Menegola were ok but not as good as Kelly...
I like the way you are trying to water him down and call it well done by WC but the reality is he was worth more to Geelong than WC were prepared to give...
He may have to change his tune if he wants to get home next year and consider donning Purple...
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That’s well done for WC to offer
That’s well done for WC to offer to take a broom handle but clenching the cheeks when Geelong brought out an unlubed axe handle. You will fail to find a post where I talked Kelly up and said he’d be worth our first rounder alone but you’re 100% correct though, in that he was worth more to Geelong than WC were prepared to give.
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Good to see Kelly staying
Good to see Kelly staying with my cats, probably lose him next year though. Wifey is cockahoop about Freo’s picks. Got a picture of Jesse on her FB already.
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Lots of ifs and
Lots of ifs and buts....buuuuut......Reasonably happy with the Hawks trading. Scrimshaw has plenty of upside, just needs to find some confidence and form and have a good run and hopefully all the salty tears of the Hawks fans claiming they wont renew their memberships because Burton was moved on will dry up, as Scrimshaw is an athletic type with good hands
Scully was an outrageous steal for such a late pick. Of course there are worries over his ankle but the Hawks medical team is generally top notch and if he gets going, hot damn, that solves the hole that Brad Hill left in terms of sheer gut running and pace. He could be the sort of player that Isaac Smith needs alongside him again.
Though its probably overs for him, I've warmed to the Wingard deal. Clarko obviously rates Wingard (and has brought in plenty of Port players over the years...Guerra, Gilham, Dew, Burgoyne, Impey) very highly and if anyone can get someone so freakishly talented to perform on a consistent basis then it would be Clarko. A shame to lose Burton, as there is real potential there but after all, it is potential.
None of these players are complete answers to deficiencies at Hawthorn but they do go someways to help.
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Jack is there any reason
Jack is there any reason that you know of as to why Coniglio has been linked to the Hawks so heavily?
Its an uloaded question, i'm baffled and although he's good he is no Kelly or Shiel...
Curious to know the Hawks link to him?
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Shiel is a frontrunner mate,
Shiel is a frontrunner mate, have a look through his finals performances. He may as well change his name to Harold Holt on the teamsheet come finals. Cogs has proved time and time again that he is a big game performer from the ripe old age of 16.
Cogs played with JOM and Titch in the WA U18s state side so that could be the appeal if indeed it's true but my understanding is that he's pretty happy at GWS and will likely be their next Captain.
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Justin - Wingard can/will
Justin - Wingard can/will win games...
Burton might become a great player but by then the horse may have bolted...
I see Brad Johnston and Dalsanto are placing the Hawks 14th/15th next year...
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why didnt freo try to trade
why didnt freo try to trade sheridan back to a vic club?
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6 guys dropped from eagles
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Partington and Olango are the
Partington and Olango are the ones that I didn't expect. Partington racks it up in the WAFL and kicks multiple goals regularly and Olango was picked up 12 months ago as a project ruckman.
Those who watch East Perth games say Partington only likes to run one way and butchers the ball. Seems as though Ainsworth/Petch has gone above him in the pecking order and Venables and Dugan should get more midfield time next season so I guess there's no use having him there clogging the list. Talking about list cloggers, how the feck is Fraser McInnes still on our list... the bloke is dead set hopeless.
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Surely Freo will re sign
Surely Freo will re sign Strndinka or whatever his name is!!
Sounds like he will be an A grader in time.....
Dale
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I was a bit surprised they let Strnadica go too, but they have a glut of talls.
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Brady Grey
More concerned with the delisting of Brady Grey. Bought a hard edge to every game he played, why would they delist him when Freo needs more of this ? Sheridan and Sutcliffe were to be expected really, but Grey is a concern. Hopefully Ross isnt starting a rebuild again already?!!
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Word is that when Mummy
Word is that when Mummy rejoins GWS his new nickname will be 'J Edgar'.
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Hahaha fair effort to.
Hahaha fair effort to.
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Jesus just about snorted
Jesus just about snorted down a key.
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That's a classic! Great
That's a classic!
Great seeing what a solid pre season does.
Was that Lachie Whitfield in the vid at the start? Makes u wonder if Sheil, Scully, Setterfield etc might have leaked it...
Dog act but hey possible...
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Looks like the mighty Eagles have picked up another ruckman
Keegan Brooksby from the SANFL.
Has some good wraps as the best ruckman in their league this year, so hopefully another good addition to the team to back up Vardy.
2019 could be another good year
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You got that saints ruckman a couple days ago also, gonna be like land of the giants.
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Gadsy
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True Dale
No shortage of tall timber now. Interesting move, might be a bit of insurance if Vardy or the fella from the Saints gets injured so we have two ruckmen at any time to play? Brooksby can go forward apparently and add some extra height too. Another tall for our small crumbing forwards to feed off perhaps?
Looking forward to next year.
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I only wish we could have
I only wish we could have collected Natalie's tears in a jar to place on the trophy cabinet besides the 2018 Premiership Cup
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This one aged
This one aged well
www.watoday.com.au/sport/afl/fremantle-put-hogan-and-blakely-on-the-trade-table-20201020-p566tq.html
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Jackfrost80
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Lachie Neale for pick 6 which
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Amazing stuff ups
Amazing stuff ups
Bring on April
timboon
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Absolutely fucking
Absolutely fucking classic,
Jack goes out of his way to be a c%$t digging up years of tripe for a reaction and gets none until along comes Simo...
Bravo Simo you are a fucking clown....
I'm sure every club has made total fuck ups during the trade period...
Not the reaction you were after Jacky boy but at least you got one clown to reply to your post....
timboon
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Eagles swapped pick 17 (
Eagles swapped pick 17 ( Brodie Grundy ) for Sharrod Wellingham from memory with the Pies, hindsight is a wonderful thing Jacky boy...
I reckon you have one more year of trapping off before Freo start getting on top of the Eagles...
Next year is a pivotal year for WC imo, last year with Kennedy, Hurn and maybe even Nic Nat who will be 32 going into 2022 season, certainly good enough to challenge for a flag next year but the door might start to close losing those fellas above....