Two Rocks and Mindari

Advice required on fishing new ground.

Have been fishing out from Ocean Reef for many years and finding it harder to find a fish. We usually head slightly north and fish on direction bank or just inside or outside the bank. Over the past 5 or 6 years we have noticed a drastic decline in catch rate to the point that it is time to try new ground. I don't expect others to give me the magic spot to fish but would like to be pointed in the right direction.


When people talk about fishing out from two rocks are they talking about launching at Mindari and heading a bit north or launching at Yanchep (two rock) and heading north or wherever. There is always talk of flat coral ground in 40mtrs out from two rocks but that covers a huge area to look. How far out is the flat coral - on the bank, just before it as it rises up or the first 40mtr mark you hit as you head out.

I know this is a lot to ask but hoping someone may be kind enough to give me some guidance.


Post coment or PM me if you can help.

Thanks  Paul


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we usually fish about 35-40

Tue, 2007-08-07 14:20

we usually fish about 35-40 kms n/w of two rocks
depths vary from from 30 to around 60m
big dhuey country out there

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North of Mindarie

Tue, 2007-08-07 14:49

I guess that is my home turf and we tend to do well inside the bank, but as you said it is getting harder and harder to get quality fish on every lump. The trick is to spend as much time exploring new ground as you do fishing your old spots otherwise you will meet the same fate. I still tend to focus on small lumps rather than flat coral but I only have a black & white sounder so that kind of limits us in a way.

If you have a chart plotter try to look for numbers out of sequence with surrounding depths and fish around that area driving around and looking for structure. Eventually I think you will find some new hot spots.

At the end of the day nothing beats time on the water (exploring) for increasing your overall catch rate.


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Thanks For the tips

Tue, 2007-08-07 15:24

Thanks Andy and Bibs for the tips.

Andy it is good to know it's not just me that finds it harder to catch a quality fish , although I think you do a lot better than me judging by your posts. My crew was starting to think I was the worlds worst skipper HeHe!  The areas that have produced quality fish for me over the past 20 years have all but dried up. A day on the water these days sees us travel over 100klm round trip with little to show for it. As we fish weekdays ( working weekends) I don't know how many boats work the same area as we do. Usually not too many boats out during the week. I suspect the area is heavily fished and hence the decline in fish numbers over the years.

New ground is always hard to find and your limit of four or five drifts over one area is something everyone should embrace.
Once again Thanks for the Tips.
Paul

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IMO you don't need to head

Tue, 2007-08-07 20:19

IMO you don't need to head out to the bank to find good fish, majority of our spots are inside the bank and around the 40m mark. 

When it's cray season, generally pots that are clumped in two's or three's will be on a lump or similar ground.  We have sounded around quite a lot of pots in clumps and sometimes they are on good ground. 

2 weeks ago we went out and got 3 dhuies in 4 drifts of 1 lump, moved onto another spot close by and got a blackbum and another dhuie.

Both spots had pots on them.