Utterly ridiculous

Took some friends from sydney for a fish this morning out the back of FFB having launched at Cockburn, had a great day after some generous berleying with plenty of fish boated and released. A stonka of a harlequin kept for tea and some massive bust off's on drift baited mulies, one definitely a snapper with the vibrating head shakes and one almost certainly a very very large sambo which nearly pulled the lady guest overboard with an unstoppable run.

What spoilt the whole day was the complete and utter mongrel who, on an ocean which was littered with just two boats, motored directly at us coming within 25 metres clearly pinging the spot we are anchored on, obviously saw the bottom lit up with fish and didn't just ping the spot he bloodywell dropped anchor within easy casting distance.  The guests on my boat thought the little red cross on my GPS was the same on everyones GPS and when I explained the realities, that those crosses were the result of many hours of exploration he wanted me to pull the pick and go and have a go at the mongrel ............bluntly I wasn't prepared to waste my breath abusing people with no ethics whatever.  If it was you (and I have a photo of the boat and it's extremely close proximity which I am tempted to post on here for all to see) then hopefully this might just prick your conscience, on second thoughts you probably dont have one

 

 


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haha

Mon, 2009-08-31 19:25

what a f*@kin dickhead, you shoulda just threw a jig straight into his eye lol, thats stupid aye i woulda thrown a flare into his boat haha

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Post the photo!!

Mon, 2009-08-31 19:29

Post the photo!!

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This is the way things are

Mon, 2009-08-31 19:34

This is the way things are going ,maybe you were on his spot ,he could have been cursing you , thinking you my have pinged him at some stage. I move as soon as i see a boat coming saves the agro .as there are a lot of boats that drive from boat to boat ,as they now nothing themselves.

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great minds paul

Mon, 2009-08-31 19:34

great minds paul

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I dont meen to sound rude

Mon, 2009-08-31 19:34

I dont meen to sound rude but, is it possible he had done exploration in the area also and you both happened to be there on the same day??

It has happened to me before.

Go to your favourite spot and theres someone sitting right on top of it.

Even 25 miles off shore!

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Even if he had previously

Mon, 2009-08-31 20:40

Even if he had previously marked the spot, its not common courtesy to pull up right next to another boat regardless. What is wrong with peoples sense of desency lately?

Go try to find another spot to fish on untill the other boat has left "your" spot.

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Is there such a thing as

Mon, 2009-08-31 20:43

Is there such a thing as courtesy anymore, i think that went out with the 20th century...   unfortunately......

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Sambo's

Tue, 2009-09-01 21:38

I take it you havn't been out jigging Sambo's in Summer, sometimes we get 25 boats following us all over the ocean , EVERYDAY.

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post the photo! name n

Mon, 2009-08-31 19:57

post the photo! name n shame! name n shame!

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not good. nothing can realy

Mon, 2009-08-31 20:11

not good. nothing can realy be done about these sort of things, yes it could of been a spot he had on his gps or he did ping you but curtosy should have been there and stayed away from you.

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This is not the first time I

Mon, 2009-08-31 20:12

This is not the first time I have heard of similar stories, was the idiots name on the water or sea floor, tell him to eff next time.

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Sorry Guys.. It happens

Mon, 2009-08-31 20:21

It's like a dog or a cat laying it's mark. Others will follow and there is no claim to territory I am afraid. maybe the pinger was the original pisser? So why do the youngies here say post the pic? Just get over it.

Same thing happens on the beach and lack of tollerence can often result in a blue. Sorry mate.. shit happens.

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Good comments Vince, nothing

Mon, 2009-08-31 20:26

Good comments Vince, nothing more needs to be said, yeah, shit happens and get over it.

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I for one would like to see

Mon, 2009-08-31 20:46

I for one would like to see the photo, if for nothing else but to see just how close he actually was.

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dont put all us youngies in

Mon, 2009-08-31 20:24

dont put all us youngies in the same boat please trigger!

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Certainly not mate.

Mon, 2009-08-31 20:26

Certainly not mate.

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Post the pic!

Mon, 2009-08-31 20:28

Post the pic mate I think anyone will mind?

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Spot on Kane.

Mon, 2009-08-31 20:43

Spot on Kane.

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that pisses me off too if

Mon, 2009-08-31 20:46

that pisses me off too
if there's someone on a mark , go elsewhere
there's plenty of ocean

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Bit hard to get up and move

Mon, 2009-08-31 20:51

Bit hard to get up and move when the picks been set and the berley trail established.

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The first boat shouldnt move, he was there first on the day.

Mon, 2009-08-31 21:07

the new boat that motored up to the original boat shouldnt drop anchor or set up a berley trail near him in the first place.

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What boat are you saying

Mon, 2009-08-31 20:55

What boat are you saying should move?

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Why move the boat?

Mon, 2009-08-31 21:03

If everyone is at a comfotable distance then what's the hassle? If things get too close well then I guess it comes down to personalities and arrogance for the pricks who decide to muscle in. Life is all about respect for others. Sure; there are some real wankers around. At 40 meters in a swell it's kind of frustrating but gives the chance to bang chests without incident. On the beach it's different. Again, remember that we all like to get to our favourite spots but sometimes we have to find another. Stay smart and safe guys.

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Great words of wisdom there

Mon, 2009-08-31 21:10

Great words of wisdom there trigger! I agree, your there for a good time no need for anti social behavior. or black eyes. If you want to fight go to northbridge...

If you dont like it then just move on...

 

Always gona happen...

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For me if someone anchors or

Mon, 2009-08-31 21:13

For me if someone anchors or drifts a couple hundred metres away, no problem. But i'm not a massive fan of having been anchored, set a berley trail and maybe catching something, only to have someone come that (30-50 odd metres) close to me. Not in a big area like FFB or say he 3 mile stretch.

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I think you have to be

Mon, 2009-08-31 21:15

I think you have to be prepared to move on if someone is already on a spot you like, having said that, if it is a bigger site what distance apart at anchor is "cool". 30m , 50m, 100m????

Even more so when a boat is displaying a dive flag. Nothing quite as surprising as seeing a bit of lead and bait fly past you. Some guys must think that fish are exhaling to make all the bubbles on the surface.

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surely you have to tolerate

Mon, 2009-08-31 21:18

surely you have to tolerate 100m?????

50 m is prob pushing it though,

After all it is "OUR" ocean

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Had a boat set up right on

Mon, 2009-08-31 21:29

Had a boat set up right on top of a kayakers anchor/anchor rope yesterday morning ,kayaker was not on any special spot just general ground,,no other boats within a mile of them either.

I would like to see the photo because their is a serial offender in that area,,the boat has been pictured on another site up to the same tricksand theirs a few reports from other guys about him.

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Now thats just crap. got to

Mon, 2009-08-31 21:31

Now thats just crap.
got to give the yakkers some space.
There doing it hard enough as it is..
LOL

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He said to them if you hook

Mon, 2009-08-31 21:54

He said to them if you hook a Snapper or something its going to straight around my anchor rope,,bloke said oohhh and moved away a bit.

I don't know what it is  some people IQ's drop by half once they hit the water, i don't understand it myself.

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My vote is post the picky!!

Mon, 2009-08-31 21:31

Less than 20 metres is illegal and would be getting reported if this happened to me. its about respect though and if you dont have any towards me, karma will step in and reign supreme. sounds like you had fun anyway and but sorry bout the prick tease..

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Ha Ha we have had pingers

Mon, 2009-08-31 22:21

Ha Ha we have had pingers too.  Funny though because we just have a fish around. They probably thought they had  pinged themselves a great spot.  Laughing

Hubby gets a bit upset if they park themselves so close that they are in our anchor swing.  It means we have to shorten the anchor rope and possibly drag a bit in the current.

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if they anchor that close

Mon, 2009-08-31 22:34

if they anchor that close they derserve to have their boat hit , not with your boat either , a nice sharp jab to the side with the gaff . plenty of ocean so why come so close especially when you have a yak on anchor. no respect

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 Put up a dive flag even if

Mon, 2009-08-31 22:38

 Put up a dive flag even if you are just fishing- most people will give you a wide birth and if they dont start yelling about the safety of the people in the water

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weekday fishing

Mon, 2009-08-31 22:43

I guess thats why I love going out during the week, you can be out all day and only see one boat, on the move and off in the distance. The only time I have had problems is on the weekend, and then I had to laugh as the bottom wasnt anything special, I was just drifting while I sorted out my gear.

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Enough agro

Tue, 2009-09-01 09:01

Wow, it seems we have all been the subject of this sort of activity however, having been on holiday (Phuket) for the last couple of weeks and only returning last week I have only just caught up with all the posts on the site generally whilst I have been away. Having done so I must say it causes me concern that I see personal attacks on the views of some web site members..........we are a family here, we are ALL entitled to a view / opinion and what makes this web site so different from several others I could mention has been the real spirit of comradarie (??spelling) so evident here and the willingness to help others new to the game. With that in mind I will not post the photo, if he is a site member then he knows who he was as there were so few on the water yesterday.

Let us keep this site positive and friendly which was what drew me to it in the first place ........coincidences do happen, we might indeed have been in a spot he had previously found and marked himself, the back of FFB has some brilliant structure but it is isolated so perhaps it is not such an unusual circumstance. I personally would never have anchored so close to another craft but that's my ethical approach, I suppose they might have thought two streams of burley were better than one. Again thanks for the responses -it further evidences the quality of people that enjoy this site

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Disregard the boat on a

Tue, 2009-09-01 09:08

Disregard the boat on a yakker comment,seems the boat ws doing a drift in the same area as its a good spot for him,,in the pre gloom dawn he thought the yakker was drifting as well as could not see any anchor rope,(still darkish) called out to the yakker a couple times to ask if he was drifting also but got no reply ,,as he got closer he realised the kayaker was in a fixed position and moved off,,,perfectly good explantion, alway two sides of the story.

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Just commenting, but most

Tue, 2009-09-01 10:48

Just commenting, but most people have more than 1 spot to fish.

If someone is in close proximity to a spot im heading to, i head to another spot. Just common curtesy.

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Ditto Bodie

Tue, 2009-09-01 11:03

I think occurences like this are all too common these days. But hopefully airing them online may well educate a few as to what is deemed common courtesy.
Personally it makes my blood boil when boats bee line me from afar in the middle of the ocean, then follow me to the next spot as I move away. Not much I can do about it other than to keep moving.

The only defence is to keep exploring and find lots of alternate spots to fish.

Sure some may be better than others, but by spreading the effort around you give your best spots a chance to recover and if I see someone on or close to one of my spots I make a big detour and fish somewhere completely different. If I am desperate to fish that particular spot I might head past on the way back in and if nobody is around I will fish it.

The worst offender so far pinged me from 5 metres away and had the cheek to say "Hi guys, our gps is busted, are you catching any around here?" as he watched us put a 20kg plus Dhuie into the esky.

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yeah i had one come and

Tue, 2009-09-01 11:23

yeah i had one come and circle me out in the 200m mark, and i guess because his sounder couldnt read the bottom. Circled only 15m from us. watching and waiting to see what we pulled up.

yep we got pissed!!

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Beach

Tue, 2009-09-01 14:35

Was fishing off a beach with a mate down from Margaret River when spotted a light on a three wheeler bike come down the track then turn towards where we were.Quickly we buried our fish [2xgood mullas and a shark just leaving a few herring out.Sure enough it was who we thought it would be,he stopped and asked how we were going stating "we wouldn't tell him anyway and probably buried the fish so he couldn't see them".How right he was,parked right on top of them.
We told him after the weigh in for the comp what we'd done,he was pissed as he'd gone some 2 miles further away and caught nothing worth weighing in

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So what are we supposed to

Tue, 2009-09-01 18:14

So what are we supposed to do at a spot like the D9?

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dont bother

Tue, 2009-09-01 20:59

its been flogged to death

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Bit different at an isolated

Tue, 2009-09-01 20:37

Bit different at an isolated well known spot, to a big area such as the whole FFB or 3 mile reef system i reckon.

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If i can hit your boat with

Tue, 2009-09-01 20:47

Agree with that brody .If i can hit your boat with a 24 oz sinker (and i will)your too close go some where else for an hour and try a different spot regardless as to whose great grandad gave the spot to your dad who past it on to you at your 21 st birthday .Its a bloody big ocean if your coming that close to someone your pinging their spot if you have it marked well no harm in coming back a bit later .

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A Lesson in life Skills

Tue, 2009-09-01 21:08

This is a really interesting thread and excuse me for having some input on several occasions. Personally, at times, I am a really agro bastard so to speak and I have experienced similar problems many a time. As I have posted before I think the best way for me now is to abuse and run so to speak. The bad experience posted here originally to create this thread is another example of how life is, not just on the water. There are a lot of inconsiderate wankers out there and let's face it; it makes for a great group discussion over way too many beers to come up with a fix for this. LOL.

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Vince, I concur with your

Tue, 2009-09-01 21:13

Vince,
I concur with your comments, maybe as we go through our age group we see things in a far different light.

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