Warning-Bitten By Another Forum Member
Submitted by Blank Cheque on Sat, 2009-09-19 07:44
Warning –Bitten By Another Forum MemberPlaced a thread asking if anyone had a GPS antenna to suit lowrance!! MEMBER Moe_01 came to the rescue with a near new one with cable. Spoke to him via phone got details and placed money into his bank account. 1 week goes by no Antenna so I phoned several times Friday fortnight ago. No answer. He returns my call Saturday. So sorry mate I lost your address can you please give me your address again and I will express post it first thing Monday I am so sorry. Well here goes another week no antenna. I have tried phoning, sent SMS and still no reply. Members beware.
Garry
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Its a little late to head home early
Tim Moloney
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Date Joined: 06/06/09
Keep us Posted on what happens!
I am interested to hear if you actually get it or not!
Keep us posted!
What is the damage by the way?
bluebagger
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Date Joined: 21/10/08
That sucks Garry hope it
That sucks Garry hope it turns up.
GO BLUES
wadetolley
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Yes
Funny you should say that, i was thinking the same thing last night, have to just have trust in people
saltydog
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"another forum member"
"another forum member"
what was the other case?
there should be a rule in place that members
with less than say 10 -20 posts can't sell shit.
Stops the drop-ins taking advantage of the feature
honsu chin
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Date Joined: 20/09/05
Hmm....not a good trade
Hmm....not a good trade there. Hopefully he comes good with the goods. Otherwise see if you can report to your bank to retrieve the money back.
Blank Cheque
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Date Joined: 28/03/09
Another as in one of us Salty
no not a second deal gone wrong.
Garry
Its a little late to head home early
catchalittle
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Date Joined: 04/09/08
never buy stuff from people
never buy stuff from people who have not been members for a short time,plus wouldnt buy somthing through a third person.How much did you get stung for.
Nathan
roberta
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Date Joined: 08/07/08
Not nice
honestly don't understand humans, sometimes bargains just sound too good to be true. Don't do any financial dealings on the net, don't own a credit card either, never have
Ginger Tablets Rock
Rodrat
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Date Joined: 13/01/07
Sorry to hear
Maybe he works away? Hope all turns out ok.
FISH FOR THE FUTURE
Shorty
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Date Joined: 10/05/08
Yes i was thinking he works
Yes i was thinking he works away, he has only one post so thats a bit of a worry though,,its only been two weeks and two days since you made the post,,i have waited 10 days to recieve something that was sent by registered post (thats if he sent it that way)
Hopefully it all gets sorted out.
bod
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Date Joined: 03/05/06
leaves a bad taste
saw Moe_01 was online last night. Hopefully he'll come good.
maybe Adam can put up some sort of paypal system because there are so many sales going on now. It might mean a cost involved, but a small price to pay to guarantee payment and delivery.
honsu chin
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Yeh but at the end of the
Yeh but at the end of the day, the sale was done between the buyer and the seller. The forum was a medium for advertising.
Personally I think there's something dodge going on seeing that Garry has waited more than 3wks for the item.
Yes I agree a system of some sort for new members before they can advertise anything.
Im advertised for a mate becoz he works away and has limited internet access.
Matt T
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Date Joined: 19/11/07
Well..
I've bought a few things on fishwrecked from people and have got some great bargins. And met some top and very generous blokes also!
Hope it all works out.
PJAY
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Date Joined: 12/05/09
certainly leaves a sour
certainly leaves a sour taste in on's mouth........hop he comes good with the gear. what area does he live in??
The Kimberley....perfect one day and more perfect the next!!!
Blank Cheque
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Date Joined: 28/03/09
Berwick PJay Victoria
Dave Fidone is his name. When I did the money transfer via internet it came up as Berwick. I have worked on the east cost for a few yaers. 3 days express post (as promised) and I have had mail on my door step.
Garry
Its a little late to head home early
saltatrix
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Date Joined: 30/03/08
Ring your bank. That is
Ring your bank. That is fraud. The banks aren't fond of this type of thing and the cops can be quite aggressive in tracking down the person.
Angling tourism is worth $10 billion to the Australian economy - 90000 jobs; more than any sport; spread the word
till
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Date Joined: 21/02/08
The banks won't do a thing
The banks won't do a thing if you used direct deposit, they may give a slight shit if you used CC but you didn't.
Your best bet is the cops, be prepared to ring a few to get someone that will do anything about it.
Bones76
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Date Joined: 03/11/08
I've sold a fair bit of
I've sold a fair bit of stuff recently over Fishwrecked, but will only sell to guys locally who come to look at the gear and have a feel of rods loaded up etc before i take any cash...
I have had a number of PM's and calls from guys over east who sounded dodgy, a few ligit, but wouldn't want the hassle of things going wrong..
Without insurance and any form of security I would have to think hard about giving cash to someone over east / seas.
fishintruckie
Posts: 198
Date Joined: 22/07/08
I have bought and sold
I have bought and sold thing's through fishing forum's never had an issue but I will admit that when buying I pay cash on pickup but people who have bought thing's from me have transferred money to my account. I wouldn't think of "stiffing" anybody on good's I have sold them and if I was due to flyout I would make arrangements to drop the good's off before I flew out or post it to them before I left. It come's down to the nature/integrety of the person selling the good's I suppose.
Baron Custom
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Date Joined: 04/09/09
THIEF'S SHOULD LOSE THERE HAND'S....
Scum ! Ban him from the site if he has showen himself to be a fraud.... What ever happend to "fair" sick to death of bloody thief's.... GET A JOB YOU RIP OFF...
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NEVER TRUST ANY GOVERNMENT
PJAY
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Date Joined: 12/05/09
a name to
a name to remember......report it to the office of fair trading or whatever its called now........they will work with the coppers..... i think i meant consumer affairs
The Kimberley....perfect one day and more perfect the next!!!
wopjrb
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yer i reckon
ive sold a few things off the site mate and found people to be genuine - but that sounds dodgy ay probly decided to scam ya
Faulkner Family
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yeah not a good lesson, too
yeah not a good lesson, too many people come and go from forums, i have seen a few of late that come on , say hi then sell some stuff then take off again until they have more stuff to sell,makes you wonder where these people get off and where the gear comes from.hope it all works out for you B C but i wouldnt hold your breath
RUSS and SANDY. A family that fishes together stays together
gpc123
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Sad to heare mate
But it will happen on any forum, be it fishing, 4X4, hunting, etc etc. The lowlife 1%, WILL screw the honest people VERRY VERRY SAD.
Regards Geoff
Single dad and proud of him
kaney68
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Date Joined: 29/07/08
Scumbag....
Hopefully there is a bloody good reason for the delay in receiving the antenna..
Just a thought, would there be anyway of tracking this guy from his ISP address etc... not sure if this would be encoded anywhere within the forum ???
Computer tech guys and "geeks" out there - any idea ??
You would then be able to pass details to the fraud sqaud !
Blank Cheque
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Date Joined: 28/03/09
Should not be to hard but who has the time these days to chase
it up. Police are so busy. Will talk with local police in a cople of days. I have hard/elec copy of his reply advising me of cost. Hard/elec copy of reciept money into his account. Name, Acc number, bsb, Bank branch,Phone, etc. Will keep you posted.
Garry
Its a little late to head home early
Baron Custom
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Date Joined: 04/09/09
You go after him Gary !
Dont let the rip off get away with it.... Cheer's Darryl
NEVER TRUST ANY GOVERNMENT
GusG
Posts: 547
Date Joined: 07/04/08
That sucks but.......
That is really unfortunate mate and sad to hear that someone on this forum has perhaps ripped off another member.
I have sold and bought stuff on this site and a couple of others. I have neer had a problem (touch wood) and all members have been very good to deal with. Hopefully this bloke is away and has not been able to get in touch with you. You have to be able to deal in good faith on these sites or else the buy/sell features will be useless. Hopefully it is one bad apple and it wont spoil the rest.
I think it is up to each member to vet who they do the deal with. Ask yourslef have they been on the site for a while, do others know the person. If both of these questions are no or if a large sum of money is involved perhaps don't do the deal unless you can see the item/person in the flesh. It should not be up to Adam to patrol these sales or vet people.
Gus
Decella
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Rating system
Is there a way of setting up a rating system where other members who know you or people who buy from you "rate your reliability". Sorry to hear about the delay/loss Blank Cheque maybe he'll come good.
Adam Gallash
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Date Joined: 29/11/05
spewn
Spewing Garry, very unfortunate and the first case I've heard on FW in 5 years of operation.
I will look into alternative options for ensuring safe sales, maybe a paypal system where you pay $10 to become a seller, register all your details (paypal has a recourse system) and then everyone should be safe to purchase/sell. (The money will be used to put in a rating system for those that do regular trades)
Just a thought..
Cheers,
Adam
Site Admin - Just ask if you need assistance
Blank Cheque
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Date Joined: 28/03/09
Cheers Adam
I was going to contact you after speaking with police tomorrow. Dont like my chances but its who you know these days that goes a long way. At no stage do I hold Fishwrecked responsable. Its just one of those scumbag things that happen in life. What comes round goes round I say his turn will come.
Garry
Its a little late to head home early
Adam Gallash
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No probs
No probs Garry, I'm happy to provide his email address and IP to the cops if that helps any. Just let me know what I can do and will try to assist, I won't block him just yet to see if he comes back online - but will ensure that theres no postings from him selling items.
Will start looking into new safety measures soon.
Cheers,
Adam
Site Admin - Just ask if you need assistance
MJ
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Date Joined: 23/06/09
Link case numbers ...
When you speak to the police try to find out if there are any other fraud issues that relate to this person and ask that your case number be linked to these (should there be any). I had a similar experience (not FW) with a multiple fraudster and through linking other victims case numbers the profile of the situation was raised and resourced to enable the arrest and jailing of the offender together with a court order for refunding victims. Chances are if this person has ripped you off it will not be the first time.
catchalittle
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Post his banking details on
Post his banking details on the net then let some of the 80000 million dollar scams deal with him to teach him a lesson
Nathan
DhuBoi
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yeh u have to be weary who
yeh u have to be weary who to trust on the internet same case 1% dead shit ruins it for alot of people, Ip address and email is a good idea to start at.
living is fishing
Brian
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Date Joined: 17/08/07
Always one out there
Sad state of play today, all ways someone who will come up with a scam, it works and Garry or someone misses out, the fallout is that we all start to worry about doin business on web, my only advice is deal in cash and do pickups, just drove all the way up to Matts shop to pick up auction wins and pay cash, happy camper drives home with gear ( sorry Jody ) but no problems, so put your self out and use cash!!
jay_burgess
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Date Joined: 18/08/05
Not everyone lives in the
Not everyone lives in the city, for some people that's not an option.
Decella
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Date Joined: 01/02/09
I wander if this is sorted yet?
Had any joy yet mate?
Blank Cheque
Posts: 221
Date Joined: 28/03/09
No Decella but I have pm Adam and keeping him in the loop.
Progress is being made but how long this will take who knows.
Garry
Its a little late to head home early
Blank Cheque
Posts: 221
Date Joined: 28/03/09
Spoke with this guy yesterday afternoon.
He has advised me that he sent it several weeks ago and that he thought I had it that’s why he never replied to my many missed phone calls.
He called me back yesterday evening and advised me he placed the wrong post code on the package and it was returned, his house mate resent it for him about one and a half weeks ago but never told him about it. He has given me a tracking number for the item but when I checked the number it not registered. Taking into account Oz post doesn’t scan all items I will have to wait until Tuesday now and phone and talk to someone from oz post.
Garry
Its a little late to head home early
Alan James
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Date Joined: 30/06/09
Good Luck
1. He looses your address
2. Wrong post code
3. House mate resent it and he didn't know. How did the house mate know what the correct post code was?
4. Tracking number doesn't work.
Good Luck!!
wadetolley
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Date Joined: 27/06/08
Yes
Im hearing ya Alan!
fishcrazy
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hope it happens
hope things come good for ya garry, ya dont need shit like that
Decella
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Date Joined: 01/02/09
All the best
I posted the comment the other night as the bloke was logged on. Hope it all works out mate.
Blank Cheque
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Date Joined: 28/03/09
Good News
David phoned again on Saturday to see how things were going and I explanned that it had not arrived and now I will have to wait until tuesday to speak to someone from oz post.
Well when I rang them this morning they advised me that it was at my local post office and it was due for delivery today.
So Adam you may want to pull this thread. Thanks guys for your support just reading through the comments is the reason why I never thought twice on buying through the site.
Thanks again
Garry
Its a little late to head home early
Adam Gallash
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Excellent news
Excellent news Garry. Great to hear mate, glad that we still haven't had a bad incident since operation.
That still won't stop me looking into ways to over come the issue though. I am trying to create an authorised sellers badge (similar to the donations badge that will show in people's avatar) to show that they have given me their details and can be trusted to send the gear they are offloading. I think I will charge a fee of $20, then get their name, address, phone number and drivers license number and store it in a database if its ever needed.
Cheers,
Adam
Site Admin - Just ask if you need assistance
kane
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Date Joined: 07/12/08
good idea,
another rule that might be worth consideration is to limit it to boating, fishing and diving epuipment... seems to be alot more posts from people trying to sell other things like cars, fridges, air conditioners etc lately...the quokka is the best place for that type of gear, not a fishing forum - in my opinion.
Gooooone Fishin!
Decella
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Awesome
Good result mate.
Alan James
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Date Joined: 30/06/09
Good news indeed
You had better luck than I on another forum.
kaney68
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Date Joined: 29/07/08
Good stuff
Garry, glad to hear everything worked out, and David (Moe_01) is is not one of these guys who's out there to rip people off
I guess maybe a bit more communication from David, ensuring Garry had received what he paid for would have been good - but maybe there were reasons he was unable to...
ody
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Date Joined: 30/12/06
Hi Ya, Wouldn't put it
Hi Ya,
Wouldn't put it past Oz post to have screwed up either.
My missus buys a lot of stuff Ebay. On no less than three occasions she has not received the goods only to find that they have been sitting in the Oz Post warehouse waiting for us to collect them but they never bothered to tell us the stuff was there to collect.
On one other occasion I purchased a replacement stereo system for my car from a crowd in Victoria. Exactly the same thing happened, so that is four times Oz Post has screewd up. Each time registered post.
Cheers.