What and Where
Submitted by Ganged on Thu, 2009-02-26 11:18
Hi guys
I know this is the best place to start on my journey of learning.
What I would like to know is what type of fish can i target from beach or rocks. (northern suburbs)
I have 2 light rods a 6ft and a 8ft i also have a cheap and nasty beach combo. This is just till i get the hang of casting and all the stuff that goes with fishing from the surf. I have managed to have some luck with some under size taylor, some nice whiting and herring.
I would love to hook something of some size pref something i can eat, it should taste good.
Where is best to go and what do i use. I plan to go to flat rock soon but that will have to be an overnighter.
Thanks in advance
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Colin Hay
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Ganged
Some would disagree, but unless the surf is really flat and you have an easterly behind you, the 6 foot outfit would be a waste of time - even the 8 foot rod would be difficult if there is any sort of swell, particularly a shore break, as you would struggle to keep your line up high enough to stop it being washed in by waves. The 8 foot outfit would be okay from some groyne and marina walls - but you would have trouble lifting up a decent sized fish at somewhere like Cott Groyne if the swell is up and you can't get down close enough to the water - or you don't have a decent sized gaff.
I don't know how cheap and nasty your beach combo is, but for around $100 you can pick up a combo at somewhere like the Tackleshack that would be a great starting out outfit.
As for a rig, you can't beat a surf paternoster for a good alround set-up that will catch you a variety of fish and which can be changed around to suit the conditions.
If there are good sized fish around you can use 3/0, 4/0 or 5/0 gangs and bait it with a pilchard. If there only seems ot be herring around you can switch over to smaller sized gangs and use half a mulie or a blue bait.
The big thing with casting is getting your timing right. That takes practice. Watch people fishing around you and if you see someone that appears to be casting accurately and getting good distance, then take note of what they are doing and then practice that method.
But don't fall into the habit of thinking you will only catch fish if you can cast it a mile. Certainly being able to cast a good distance gives you more flexibility - particularly if the fish are in a gutter that is away from the shore - but remember that the fish come to the beach or the rock walls looking for foods and quite often they will be right at your feet.
If you want somewhere that is good place to start where you will not have issues with big swells, try Pinaroo Point in the evening. Put a mulie or a whole squid on the gangs on your bigger outfit and throw that out. You can then use your 8 foot outfit to throw out smaller baits with half a mulie or a blue bait.
Another good spot to try is near the lighthouse on the north wall at Hillarys. You can try the same method. But I would suggest that you either fish there from just before sunrise, or just before sunset as the blowies are a pain.
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UncutTriggerInWA
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OMG Colin - Information overload there!!!! LOL
Great info though and all so true.
I picked up a Jarvis Walker combo (10ft) for under $100 a while back. I know you purists will bag me for it but I did have a reason at the time and the combo works extremely well for me from the beach and at Flat Rock. I use my 9 foot Ugly Stik combo extensively when conditions are good. I use my 12 foot Ugly Stik combo for serious conditions and when I want larger species.
As for the rest, discuss your proposed location and time with your tackle shop man. He can then supply pre-made rigs and the right bait for the occasion. As you progress and get more into it, you will start to understand and make your own rigs.
The true secret to the whole thing is to GET OUT THERE! Time and patience will take care of the rest.
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Do you have a 4x4 or a 2wd
Do you have a 4x4 or a 2wd as i will be going monday afternoon evening if you are interested
Ganged
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Thanks for the good advice
Thanks for the good advice guys. I try and get out as much as possible but those of you with young family can understand that is not always easy.
I do have a awd Ford escape.
Monday sounds good where will you be going?
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Where would be the best
Where would be the best tackle shop to go to in the North?
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Try the site sponsor the Tackleshack in Malaga
Mention you are a Fishwrecked member and you will get a discount. You will also get some great advice from Doug, Matt (Malo) and Blake - who are all on this site.
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some top info there from
some top info there from colin
he knows his stuff
yeah definitely go the shack
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pinnaroo point would deff be a good place to start and theres consistent amounts of herring there on dusk
i was catching all mine on a running sinker rig aswell
and theres usually a few tailor around there aswell
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Ganged
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Thanks guys, I need all the
Thanks guys, I need all the help i can get.
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Ask Questions
If you are having trouble catching fish and the bloke next to you is,watch what he is doing and if still in doubt ask him.More times than not they will be able to give you good advice on what you need to do to.
Ganged
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Squiding
Morning Guys
I am thinking of going squiding 2night at Hillarys.
Was just wondering where would be the best place, inside the harbour where the boats are or the north wall off the platform or the rocks. Thanks.
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Colin Hay
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Move around Ganged
Ther are some regular squidders that go there most nights and they move around the place constantly. They will start off trying between Spinnakers Restaurant and the boats, then try off the Disabled ramp, then the lighthouse, then cast under the jetty behind Spinnakers, and keep rotating.
If you go over to the area behind Aqwa, you can get a few squid on the little jetty that drops down from the main wharf.
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