1m+ king george

 Bloke at work reckons he caught a 1metre plus King George off rotto,  I called bullshit but he insists he did. Do they exist? I read somewhere they can get 4.5kilos but the record is 2.5kilos. I recon bullshit but am happy to be put in my place. Cheers 


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King george

Fri, 2017-03-10 10:37

 gotta say no photo, it didn't happen ! I think anyone who caught a fish of supposedly that size would take a pic. A 60cm fish is a stonker kg think that may be a fishy tale at 1mtr

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Have a look at some of the massive Bonefish caught out deep

Fri, 2017-03-10 17:22

 Easy metre fish...and they sure do look like a whiting.

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 Have seen one in a freezer

Fri, 2017-03-10 10:40

 Have seen one in a freezer in albany around that size. I wouldn't not believe. A piccy always helps. Biggest i have caught was 63 cm.

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Not KG

Fri, 2017-03-10 10:46

Though not a Kg, have seen as whiting come up off a demersal longline around a metre in length and a flounder that covered the top of a 44 gallon drum.

Used to go out on shark boats off Bunbury on weekends while still at high school and was amazed at some of the fish that came up that we can only dream about now days.

Would like to see a photo off the big Kg but still think it is quite possible to get them that size

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biggest i have seen

Fri, 2017-03-10 11:10

 was 89cm also rottnest, took a whole mulie. i believe it

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 Did they let you cook him

Fri, 2017-03-10 13:57

 Did they let you cook him up 

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lol

Fri, 2017-03-10 14:47

 

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Certainly conceivable

Fri, 2017-03-10 13:22

My best came from over 70 metres off Mandurah and was a measured 88cm and as thick as your arm.....called for a dhuie initially as it fought that hard down deep but regretfully it was in the late  1970s when mobile phones weren't even heard of.  Have found the photo of the plus 20kg dhuie caught by a mate that day (weighed) and bottomed out the scales but cannot find the KGW .......remember clearly that it was hooked through the head rather than the mouth and took a whole mulie on a flight of 6/0s 

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Yep true

Fri, 2017-03-10 11:39

 my bro caught a 1 m kg before on the straight hook

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 I'd believe it also. Get

Fri, 2017-03-10 11:42

 I'd believe it also. Get some big ones down here if you know where to look.

Never seen one at a meter but quite a few in the 90s.

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A bloke at my work....

Fri, 2017-03-10 12:14

...regularly told me about 3kg Breaksea Cod and 2kg KG's, until I told him to accurately weigh them before telling me again. Mysteriously, he only catches 1.8kg Breaksea and 1.1kg KGs now. Our club record is 1.450kg and was 57cm long. The National record is 2.3kg, which I imagine has got to be close to their maximum size. I'm trying to get the length of that fish now, but I don't think it would be 1m.

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rather than finding it hard

Fri, 2017-03-10 12:43

rather than finding it hard to believe it was 1m, I find it hard to believe that no one on the boat had a phone to take a pic and/or no one had a phone to take a pic when he got home with it....

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 Funny how the biggest pics

Fri, 2017-03-10 12:45

 Funny how the biggest pics you will see are around 65cm.Any fisherman in the right mind would get a pic of 1m king george whiting even going back 40 years ago.

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A beast from a while ago

Fri, 2017-03-10 12:48

I caught this beast a few years ago
it was 71cm never did weight but 2kg at least it was well thicker than a coke can in width.

http://fishwrecked.com/forum/thumping-king-George

As discussed with old fellas at a few clubs and tackles shops, back in the day 90cm+ on whole mulies on a gang of 3/0 was regular occurrence Would like to see a photo though.

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Theres a alleged 900mm without to much searching.

Fri, 2017-03-10 12:55

www.fishingworld.com.au/news/the-mother-af-all-kg-whiting

But like anything theres doubters and photoshop etc , who do you believe?

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Kg

Fri, 2017-03-10 15:10

900mm and only 3.1kg Deffo a tall tale, my best is 54cm 1.25kg, as a fish doubles in length it more than quadruples in weight.  

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 I saw that one quadfisher

Fri, 2017-03-10 13:27

 I saw that one quadfisher but I don't think that one is 90cm.  My opinion of course.

The size he said was 110 to 120cm. He,s a good fisherman which is why I'm asking about it on here.  Cheers

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Big difference

Fri, 2017-03-10 13:34

So clearly if he can only estimate to within 10cm (which is a big difference) then he didn't measure it. Refer to my first post. Unfortunately, tape measures and scales have a way of embarrassing fishers estimates. When I see a photo of a 900mm or greater KG, against a tape measure, I'll believe it

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National and State Records

Fri, 2017-03-10 14:41

OK, heard back now from both the National Records Officer and the State Records Officer.

Precise details are:

State Record - 1.856kg, length 59cm
National Record - 2.3kg, length 61cm

I have the girths as well, but was asked not to publish them because they have a formula that uses the girth to check for false claims. I will say there is 1.2cm between them.

As I mentioned earlier, Ocean Reef Sea Sports club is 1.450kg and 57cm.

I'll leave it for you to consider these measured and photographed details, and extrapolate that to a 1.1/1.2m fish.

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Big Kgs

Fri, 2017-03-10 15:21

I have caught many ripper kgs over the years, with many going well over 50cm. The biggest I have caught went 61cm Measured on a ruler when caught(I have posted it on fishwrecked). I believe they do get bigger, but I am yet to see one in the flesh. Good mates of mine have told me they have caught them off Rotto over 70cm. Good fish indeed!
Would like to see one over a metre...

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 He didn't claim to measure

Fri, 2017-03-10 20:44

 He didn't claim to measure it or anything.  I wanna believe it!

 

Even more remarkable is a sand whiting 1m long! 

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Total crap

Fri, 2017-03-10 16:38

 end of story.

 

Wish Cleggie was around to laugh at that one.  

 

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Yep

Fri, 2017-03-10 17:56

 Im going with crap too. Not seen one over 70 in 11 years of running the site and being around web forums. Although that 900 from coffin bay above certainly throws the cat among the pigeons.

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 Yeah well whateva i know

Fri, 2017-03-10 19:40

 Yeah well whateva i know what i was looking at in the freezer down in albany. And I've caught enough fish around the mtr mark to be able to judge. Just cause you personally haven't come across one doesn't mean they don't exist. What ate the white shark in the Bremer canyon eh. The ocean's a big place.

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 If this was true it would be

Fri, 2017-03-10 19:45

 If this was true it would be plastered all over the fishing pages including here. If you didn't get pics of that total crap and total idiot.

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Yep

Fri, 2017-03-10 20:03

Nah I call BS. Untill "proven" otherwise.

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without a pic its highly

Fri, 2017-03-10 22:09

without a pic its highly doubtfull imo

years ago there was a busso pro , jeff smith ,he was second generation pro , he fished with handlines for big kg out in the bay as well as other stuff , i and my brother often saw him come into the retunda at the old original busso jetty as kids in his 21 foot pro boat "jo rain "which was a big boat back then , with luggs of big kgs, mostly they where in the 45-60 cm size range ,with some bigger beautifull big bastards as thick as your arm + , he also caught alot of big pike, skippy etc ,

that was back in the late 60s and early 70s jeff was a true pro , who knew the bay well

dont see hauls like that nowdays though

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Kg

Fri, 2017-03-10 22:39

 My uncle was a pro between the capes in the 50s and 60s

with his boat The Reliant. Told me that his deckie caught a

kg straight out from Cowie Bay that was over a yard long.

They both called it for whiskery shark on the way up.

Also surely 61 cm is not the national record as I've caught some

A bit longer than that myself. So I'd say a meter is possible.

 

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who was your uncle ??last

Sat, 2017-03-11 04:41

who was your uncle ??last cast

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Hugh Smith?

Sun, 2017-03-12 07:05

Think his name was Hugh Smith.
Remember the Reliant from when towed her into Bunbury with the Petermicris after he ran out of fuel on top of the Bouvard reef in the late sixties

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 Back when i was a boy we

Fri, 2017-03-10 22:41

 Back when i was a boy we used to catch them over 2m,  anything under a metre we wouldnt bother bringing home....

 

The 2m ones you couldnt fit your arms around. 

 

We found using small mako's was the best live bait for them at that size.....

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 Sounds like you're a

Fri, 2017-03-10 22:47

 Sounds like you're a Belieber Boony 

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Off Two Rocks

Sat, 2017-03-11 04:51

 Before GPS was affordable and sounders were B&W we had an overnighter off TR. In about 70m we picked up 2 KG that were almost 1m long. I cant remember exactly the number, over 90 but not 100. We had no idea how big the records were and at the time both of us figured that in the deep water these were the norm. As we planned to be fishing deep, 70m was deep for us, a lot more there was no photo's taken. 

I can beleive 1m is possible.

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 Nah madmerv it didn't happen

Sat, 2017-03-11 07:40

 Nah madmerv it didn't happen no photo lol. 

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Identification chart

Sat, 2017-03-11 08:09

 Sounds like many in here don't know how to identify a KG. Biggest I've caught is about 35cm so surely they don't grow any bigger than around 40cm.

 

http://fishwrecked.com/forum/fishwreckapedia-king-george-whiting

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You reckon

Sat, 2017-03-11 08:17

you reckon they don't get over 40cm, but the link you sent has a pic of one at 55cm.... 

 

i have personally seen them to 60cm, and yes, I correctly identified it as a king George. 

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Photoshopping Scotto

Sat, 2017-03-11 12:12

 Next time I catch a dhuie I'll paint some spots on it and show you'se all what a stonker KGW looks like.

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 Lolz Most our Kg's are no

Sat, 2017-03-11 13:35

 Lolz Most our Kg's are no less than 550mm you need to get out more mate 

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 Tell ya what grey ghost next

Sat, 2017-03-11 08:53

 Tell ya what grey ghost next time i go out i will catch one over 40cm and post it up. Don't usually post kg pics cause i regularly catch them over 50cm maybe u can tell me if its a kg or just a pesky GW.

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Agree

Sat, 2017-03-11 08:59

55-60 pretty common, and you dont have to travel far either.

 

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I have seen 70+ cm

Sat, 2017-03-11 08:38

I have a pic from last week of a couple 55+. Why cant I just drag the pic into the comment box haha?
1m is possible IMO

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 I was on the uss

Sat, 2017-03-11 09:28

 I was on the uss Indianapolis when we were scuttled by gerry....

Over a hundred men in the water....

Until the king georges came...

We only lost a few at the start...

I thought johnno next to me was sleeping so i pushed him and he toppled over... no legs

Thats why I'll never wear a lifejacket again.

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Grey ghost

Sat, 2017-03-11 17:00

Grey Ghost, here's a pic of a couple of KG caught a few weeks ago.  You probably know that Dhu legal size is 50cm.  The smallest of the two Dhu is 55cm. The KGs were 45cm and 48cm.  Some mates and I have been regularly catching similiar sized KGs.  Maybe we've been really really lucky... 

 

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 That Pavement needs painting

Sat, 2017-03-11 17:15

 That Pavement needs painting lol

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Haha

Sat, 2017-03-11 17:22

 Well, you can tell Paul that.. lol

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Arsed it.

Sat, 2017-03-11 18:42

 My brother went out in a mates new boat a few years back straight out from Ocean Reef about 1km. They knew nothing about the area and just dropped down on the first spot they felt like. Came home with 3 of the fattest KGs between 52-56 cm. Lost a couple too. Middle of the day in the middle of summer. I now know its not nearly that easy usually!

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Hezzy

Sat, 2017-03-11 19:39

 My uncle is Hugh Smith. He worked out of Canal Rocks and Busso until the 70's

 after that he went north chasing pelagics mainly, Abrolhos and further north.

Was harbourmaster at Dampier at retirement I believe.

He's still around with a sparkle in the eye. Many stories.

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very possible

Sat, 2017-03-11 20:53

 First pro s/bay . Old plastic bins (older people) would now  which ones iam on about. Kg tails overhanging out the top.. Now days unsure mid 70s last time I have seen super huge kgs of that size. Also remember pros can't claim records and barely take photos . Just a job . So I think possible

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Well that's about 50/50 I

Tue, 2017-03-14 13:18

Well that's about 50/50 I reckon,  benefit of the doubt goes to the cricketer not the fisherman!    Seems like it it's possible but I can't get my mind around a 1m+ fish.  

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 I'll pay 80cms a metre! 

Tue, 2017-03-14 13:43

 I'll pay 80cms a metre! 

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+1 Bellyfish

Tue, 2017-03-14 15:02

 Certified scales and state/national records don't lie. Fishing clubs all over the country have been recording records on certified scales and KG are one of the prize fish of all time. Personally my biggest was 54 and 1.4 kg, every centimetre on big KG = big girth. Bring on the pics of the 60cm + fish, anything over 50cm is big.

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 Seen some cracker KG here in

Tue, 2017-03-14 16:39

 

Seen some cracker KG here in SA but nothing over 70cm

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