4-5m Shark Swan River
Submitted by Swan River Fisher on Tue, 2011-11-08 07:59
Just reading the paper and someone spotted a 4-5m shark of some sort near Mt Henry Bridge in the Swan River. Swimmers are told to not swim, and avoid water at dawn and dusk, particularly in areas where wastes are excreted into the river.
Sheiiiiit lucky we got a bigger boat
Lol
Any you guys read it?
Ben
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probaly was a big
probaly was a big dolphin.
Bull Sharks do frequent the rives, but none in the that size seen here before, and only place I know of BIG Bull Sharks high up river systems is the Breeda River in South Africa and that's cause they have good food source.
Canning has not got the food source to keep a big shark that high up a river system
And I'm pretty sure it wont be a GW or Tiger either, unless we got some real strnage things going on these days in our waters.
After last nights media CR@P story about the rouge shark theory and how one shark has killed the last 10 people in WA for over a decade plus, any idiot will now jump up and say they seen JAWS in their pool.
ps that story on Today Tonight was as low as they can go with out a single fact of science, and one old geeza just wanting to be hired to kill sharks for his pelasure and pocket!!!!
JMO
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just read the link
just read the link myself
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/11469693/big-shark-spotted-in-canning-river/
I reckon BS, 4-5m is freaking big for a shark in the swan.. Surely it could be a white or tiger? only other thing could be a Big bully but geez what are the chances of one being up that way?
Nothing to eat up that way... except maybe a few water skier/wakeboarders?
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Meh, i was wading up that
Meh, i was wading up that way yesterday, didn't see a thing.
People are so scared by all these reports of shark attacks latley that they are either imagining things, or as mentioned mistaking dolphins for sharks.
Im sure the firsheries/water police are sick to death of all the bogus calls they must be getting lately from people claiming to see sharks.
Not sure what salinity levels a white/tiger can take, but last I checked it was only about 10psu (surface) and 20psu (bottom) around mt henry. I think this is a little low to be finding solely marine sharks.
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Bull Sharks can go into pure fresh water
Bull sharks are able to go into pure fresh water and servive because they can control the amount of salt they loose, where as whites and tiger cant so they wouldnt be likely to go to far up the river
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its probably fair to say the
its probably fair to say the size was overestimated anyway. "joe bloggs saw a 4-5m shark" is all the link says
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those that saw the program
those that saw the program the other night on ABC2 about the tagging and capture of the Bull Sharks in the Breeda River in South Africa, will know a 4m Bull Shark is over 600lb and 5m Bull Shark close to 1000lbs. Google River Monsters Breeda River Bull Sharks for the episode.
I have not heard of 1000lb Bull Sharks in Perth Metro waters, just pups and small ones under 100lb in the Swan near Maylands. Maybe some of the older folks here that know of the sharks back in the 70's and 60's that where caught in the river can comment?
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the only big shark i know of
the only big shark i know of in the swanny was when I took my mate out last week ...he's a used car salesman ...yeah hope it's all bulltish it's the only place I'll let the kids take out the inflatable and kayak now...since all the big biteys are in the sound...i know theres bullsharks in there but assumed there mostly little fellows...hmmm...more things to be paranoid about
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Scotch schoolboy got eaten
Scotch schoolboy got eaten by a bull shark off scotch boat shed in nedlands but that was more then 30 years ago.
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Only just more than 30 years
More like 88!
Charlie Robinson, a Scotch College student taken near the Scotch boatshed in Freshwater Bay in the summer of 1922–3.
http://fishwrecked.com/forum/swan-river-bull-shark-attacks
3rd news article.
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I was cleaning my Mooring ......
I was cleaning my Freshwater Bay mooring the other day - which is right near the boatshed, 10m depth.
I was sitting on the kayak scraping off around 30kg of mussels & barnacles from the buoy & lines, making all sorts of a stinking crushed guts mess on a gloomy overcast day.
(Unbelievable how much can grow in 6 months !!!)
Was still a bit wary, despite the very low chances of anything happening.
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I dont think many 1000lb
I dont think many 1000lb bull sharks feed on mussels. Maybe if you were chopping up sheep carcases and dumping them in the river it would be another story.
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No shit Sherlock - it was
No shit Sherlock - it was somewhat tongue-in-cheek - but 30+ kg of smashed up mussel/ barnacle meat is going to attract something ...... Maybe I should have gone the whole hog and mentioned that my hands were pissing blood too ? (forgot my gloves). But no, that would have been too dramatic, and would probably have attracted bullshit sharks ....
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did anyone see the shark doco
did anyone see the shark doco on current affair or today tonight (which ever it was on) a couple nights ago?
With someone saying the info the fisheries give out about the number of GW's is all BS (sightings, sizes, numbers around rotto etc), and that there is thousands apon thousands of them. Think he was a marine biologist, studying GW's, said he doesnt swim in the ocean at all.
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he was a shark hunter and
he was a shark hunter and not a bilogist or any scientific credtials to back his claims.
Guy was a DORK first class rating ( JMO)
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I didn't see the
I didn't see the documentary, but id be inclined to agree with what Tony is saying.
I hate how everyone claims to be 'marine bilogists' and think they know everything about everything. I don't see what reason the department of fisheries would have for releasing incorrect figures?
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yeah saw that last night on
yeah saw that last night on today tonight i thought it was pretty spot on. Made a lot of sense what he was saying
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Made sense my arse. Jeez i
Made sense my arse.
Jeez i think the guy was a tool. Have always said he was a tool and he just proved it last night.
Oh yeah that Swan river shark was true. Apparently he was eating a 60cm 4 kg black bream.
Oh and the big sharks come to this area every year hoping to eat one of Santa's reindeers..Everyone knows that one.
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Quick question, just for
Quick question, just for intrested reasons, is anyone on this site actually scared to swim/wade/kayak etc in the Swan/Canning because of bullsharks?
I've noticed a few people saying they wont be doing these sorts of activities in the sound etc because of the threat of shark attack.
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No way. Just as keen as
No way. Just as keen as ever. in fact, more keen, because I want to catch one haha!
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Haha same, same. I would
Haha same, same. I would very much like to sink my hook into a metre + bullshark in the swan
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Well i live on rossmoyne
Well i live on rossmoyne drive in bull creek and often go kayak fishing under mt henry but definetly won't be doing so any more. Im not scared of the water i love it but i only swim where i can see around me and not in murky areas. I still love my fishing and sharks in particular
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Hope it wasn't Tailor Marcs Bream
after all that effort catching and releasing it...
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What a joke...
That guy just wants to satisfy his blood lust and take out the sharks himself.
He was talking so much crap and had nothing to back up what he was saying and was accusing others of lieing!
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I was cleaning my Mooring .....
I was cleaning my Freshwater Bay mooring the other day - which is right near the Scotch boatshed, 10m depth.
I was sitting on the kayak scraping off around 30kg of mussels & barnacles from the buoy & lines, making all sorts of a stinking crushed guts mess on a gloomy overcast day.
(Unbelievable how much can grow in 6 months !!!)
Was still a bit wary, despite the very low chances of anything happening.
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HAHA - Im packing up my kit for a river kayak
Right as I read this, im laughing all the way to the river! For real!
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I wouldn't. I've got a mate
I wouldn't. I've got a mate who has a photo of a shark that has jumped out of the water and is eating a helicopter..Now that would be scary. Must be a true story, I even saw it on line.
( i do wish the smillies worked )
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Hahaha - yep, I've seen that
Hahaha - yep, I've seen that one too Rod.
Also saw the youtube vid of the Megalodon attacking an Aircraft Carrier - we're all f#cked !
PS : Smilies work for me !?
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what really makes me gag was
what really makes me gag was that the local Rescue Boys took them out on their rescue boat, so it almost added credibility to the farce!
Anyway I know more about spelling than that d!ck did about shark migration and behaviuor.....
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the question has to be asked
the question has to be asked tho.
Are there more sharks around, or is there just more reports of sharks.. (maybe people never reported them previously).
I do know a couple of Professional cray fisherman and ab divers down around Augusta way, who say they see at least one GW every day when pulling pots, they follow the pots up.
The Ab divers who now only dive with the propelled cage have said they have seen plenty, and even been pushed back into their dive cages from GW's too.
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I reckon there's simply more
I reckon there's simply more reports & attacks due to the fact that there are a lot more people in and around the water these days due to a growing population. Add to that the fact that we've killed off many of the shark's natural food sources, they are more likley to attack one of the many people that enter their habitat.
Im sure reports have also increased because of the media hype too. After a few people are attacked everyone is suddenly scared shitless and report anything that looks remotley like a shark.
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I agree with you mate,
I agree with you mate, everyone just needs to calm down. "If you dont annoy them, they wont annoy you!"
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some good quality
some good quality explanations here
i wonder...
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hahaha
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One thing Vic said was spot on
If any of the guys slaughted by these killers or killer had the chance to kill the shark involved before it struck they would have
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yet at least two of those
yet at least two of those victims had views that if they where taken, they did not want the shark hunted down.
Both Brian Guest and the latest American where of the view that they in their world and knew the risks.
If I'm taken tomorrow, I'd not want the shark killed, it's my risk and my choice to swim in the sea.
As for killing it in " self defence", no I'd ward it off if I could, but not go out of my way to kill it....
Same goes for snakes and other things out in the wild!
Why don't we all have a mass drive to kill everything on land and sea that can harm us???? why stop at sharks, hell toss in jelly fish, snakes, spiders, dingo, ferel camels, horses, big dogs, stone fish, scropion fish, blowies .....
where do you draw the line,???? after the last one is dead and you see you where wrong... Australia is a prime case study for this with slaughter of wild life in Tazzie and other places, and the Tazmanian Tiger was the prime case, slaughtered by fear of sheep being taken. Same went for vultures and eagles with farmers shooting them for protection of lambs, when studies showed only sick and poor condition lambs where fed on after the died or where close to death...
oh how we love to act out of fear and rage......
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I'm all for the anti-cull
I'm all for the anti-cull thing and all.
But you can't possibly tell me - that if you were in the water with a smoky (or at the least a big speargun) - that you wouldn't use it against an attacking shark.
Fuck that - I've got a family - and it'd be "gloves off" at that stage -
I ain't Chuck Norris, but that'd be "kill or be killed" time !
And despite being very pro-conservation - given the chance, I'd nuke anything that tried to take me out.
Full stop.
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I'm saying I'd do my dam
I'm saying I'd do my dam best to survive as any other person would, but I'd not go after it and hunt it once I'm safe and out of danger.
If I had a smokey or a spear gun, sure I'd use it if it was going to munch me, but not go after it.
And if I lost that battle, then let the shark be...
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We're talking attack time ...
............... I'm pretty sure the previous point being made related to killing to survive an attack.
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I don't think you could get a
I don't think you could get a more support shark person than me but if i could kill the shark to survive a attack yes i have no issue that. If its a choice that has to be made of a shark or a human life than there is no question. But that's not what there talking here.
19000 petitions sent to the local government to support sharks and to say no to a cull..
My first point is who believes that a 4 to 5 mtr shark was seen in the river last week?
I saw a post on another forum saying the shot was taken the day before. But i saw the same pick on here about a month earlier. So too many people talking crap if you ask me..
If one person sees a shark and ten other people see it too and they all report it does that mean there is ten sharks in the water? Dizzie my smillie don't work. Hmmf
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Anyone here swim with crocs?
Anyone here swim with crocs?
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Megashark.
Ive seen Megashark Vs Giant Octopus.... ANYHTING CAN HAPPEN!
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Bloody hell - and I thought
Bloody hell - and I thought Sharktopus was bad ! Haha
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I'm not quite sure what just
I'm not quite sure what just happened. O.o
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Bull Shark Caught Recently by friend - Seen Photo (Swan River)
For all those that havent seen the bullies in the Swan and thought they were small... I wasn't a beleiver of how large they got untill i saw a picture. Close to 2.5 meters in the river. Be careful where you dive for crabs this year!!!! No kidding the bull shark was pretty big and caught close to east fremantle.....
Anyhow don't have a picture but i have seen it on my friend mobile and other FW member has seen it too.
Good luck to the divers this year. Won't be diving for a while as well after seeing such a large beast in the river close to where i dive for crabs ;(
Doubt the bull shark near mount henry was 4-5 meters but hey what can you expect. I just seen a 2.5 meter bull shark... im sure that it could grow that bigg....
Fishing 101...
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Cant see any photo mate?
Edit, dw didnt read properly
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C'mon get your mate to post the pic
I wanna have a looksy...
all this talk of sharks made me hungry just bought some whaler fillets from iga mixing the beer batter now...mmmm
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LOL biggest bully i seen in
LOL biggest bully i seen in any photo from the swan it was no slouch thats for sure, but still going diving though :)
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Biggest I seen caught was by
Biggest I seen caught was by a fellow SAFFA at the bend just after the canoe racks past Maylands.
a well known and respected rock and river angler ( Daniel W ), with many a great catch to his credit and that one was about 1,5m in length.
I'll troll the old forum tha had his post of it on it and see it's still there.
( just corrected Daniels name lol old grey brain of mine at it again...)
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thats the one, Daniel not
thats the one, Daniel not Deon...sorry
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25th February 2011
Three juvenile bull sharks caught in Swan River
RARE FIND: Murdoch University researcher Dr Steeg Hoeksema with a 1.1m bull shark caught in the Swan River this week. Source: PerthNow
CLOSE UP: This 1.1m bull shark was caught in the Swan River by Murdoch University researchers mid-week. Source: PerthNow
THE Swan River Trust is warning river-users of the presence of bull sharks in the Swan River, after three juveniles were caught mid-week.
Three sharks ranging in size between 70cm to 1.1metres were caught in the river on Tuesday and Wednesday nights between the Maylands Yacht Club and South Perth foreshore.
“We don’t know a lot about Bull Sharks in the Swan River as there hasn’t been any targeted research done on them; however anecdotal evidence would indicate they stay in the deeper waters of the Swan.”Scientists from Murdoch University, undertaking an “Estuarine Health Index Validation Project” for the Trust caught the sharks in their research nets and released the animals back into the water, after the specimens had been positively identified and measured.
Murdoch University researcher Dr Steeg Hoeksema said Bull Sharks are known to occur in parts of the Swan and that river users should be aware of this when wading or swimming in the river.
“Bull Sharks can be aggressive under certain circumstances, however these individuals were small juveniles and are likely to stay away from people,” he said.
The Trust is advising river users in the Maylands area to be aware and careful if children and dogs are wading in this part of the river.
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Dr Steeg
must have hypnotised that one for the photo op...
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Bloody hell
It did not take long for someone to see a shadow in the swan and turn it into a 600 lb Breeda River Bull Shark.They were probably watching the program and shaking with fear on the sofa.The last thing we need is a bunch of idiots with the mind set of the moron on a current affair last night heading out to kill sharks.He may have caught the biggest GW decades ago but to say there are 1000's of the swimming up and down the coast , fark I think he's had too much sun.
Jeez it makes me think that I am watching the movie Jaws when they put a bounty on the shark and all the idiots turn up.
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Bull sharks don't even reach
Bull sharks don't even reach 4 metres, something like 3.5 is their limit.
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4m is apprently the biggest
4m is apprently the biggest ever captured. Caught in the breede river in south africa.
According to reports by the random bloke calling waterpolice it seems we have a world record fish on our doorsteps. Might be time to get the winch cables and gaff hooks out!
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last year a 1000lb Bull
last year a 1000lb Bull Shark was caught and tagged in the Breeda River, measure just on 4.5m tail to snout. But some reports had it as a 5m shark.
Since then two males and few more females in the 500~700lb mark where caught and tagged.
http://saveourseas.com/press/sensational_findings_on_breede_river_bull_shark_migration
http://www.sharkwatchsa.com/conservations/64-breede-river-project
last link has pics of the shark and details of the tag program they doing there.
ps Breeda River is a prime sking and swiming destination, with kids playing in the river all the way from the mouth to 20km inland, yet never has one person been taken by a Bull Shark ( also called a Zambezie Shark cause they migrate up the Zambizie River as well)
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Are they any good on the
Are they any good on the chew?
lets catch them and eat them if they are.
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Its shark aaron!!! YUK... I
Its shark aaron!!! YUK... I tried gummy the other day for the first time!!!! meh.... Id rather eat a muddy tasting Black bream from up the canning..... or wack one of those Sambos in a curry for all the members!!!! mmm sambo curry shouldnt have been brought into that comparison....
I do actually challenge all shark eaters to gimme a recipe worth tasting... :)
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Gummy is one of my favourite
Gummy is one of my favourite eating 'fish'. Tastes so sweet. Last time i cooked up some gummy, I lightly dusted it in flour and paprika and shallow fried it. Simple. Easy. F*ing Tasty.
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The next Gummy I catch I will
The next Gummy I catch I will be sliding the sucker to catch me a mother@#$%$ bronzie!!!!!!! (Not frozen Leemo, LIVE!!) Ha Ha
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Haha! you crazy south
Haha! you crazy south africans! I stay away from any baits over 40cm! guess im just a bit of a pussy hahaha!
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I actually had gummy last
I actually had gummy last night for dinner and it is beautiful. rate it highly. dusted in paparicka, salt, pepper and flour cooked in in a mixture of olive oil and butter sensational.
So has anyone actually tried Bull shark?
Still trying to catch fish!
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hooty
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"As for killing it in " self
"As for killing it in " self defence", no I'd ward it off if I could, but not go out of my way to kill it...."
What a crock of shit ! What f planet are you on mate.
Dont believe the locals because there not scientists. Dont beleive the local net fisher at Mandurah estury who says that he sees large size whites in the esturay often. Dont beleive all the pro cray boats and shark fishers who are on the waters every day of the year, they just dont have a clue.
Next time fisheries asks for your input, to try and put some science into the fisheries management,dont because obviously we dont have a clue. There is no science behind white sharks and no money to get science on them. (there endangered but we dont know how many there are) great science that.
Few blokes on here seem to be shark experts.
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Hooty I grew up in a bay
Hooty I grew up in a bay with more sharks than you have had breaksfasts mate.Seen more GW that you will ever see up close, having fished in waters know for having the highest concentration of GW per square kilometer in the world.!!!
Got friends that are top researchers in SAFFA land including the chap on the followed by the GW in his Yak, Name is Michael, from Switzreland and heads the White Shark Trust. I'll give you his e-mail address and you can go ask him a few questions if you'd like.
I know a little more about sharks than the avergae Joe, as for Vic the GW hunter, well his days of hero are gone with the whaling days stroies of whales killing whaling boats... killing Sharks is not studing them, it's like comparing a big game hunter to vet!
Want some good info, call me, I'll set you up with guys on the cutting edge of shark research for GW and Bull Sharks, including the management of Fish Hoek Beach ( oh my home town
) where they have had three fatal attacks in the last few years. And they have three resident GW that cruise the bay....
Next we will have Joe the Bream boff telling how a GW took his 6kg bream off the jetty by the Bell Tower and we all going to beleive him too??
Biggest Bull Shark caught and measured is just under 4.5m, 1000lb and thats official, from the Breeda River, a know migration and resident Bull Shark habitat. So suddenly we got a 5m Shark here in a river not know for big sharks over 2m cruising in it???
as for Great White Shark research, hell worlds full of it and they often the same sharks that migrate from WA to Africa and back, Tons of work been done, just not by our local fisheries guys, But hey the great WA white lie is always used " we have unique conditions, so can't use others research...!!!" best CR@P line used in WA, in mining, health, shcooling, fish research etc... just the best excuse to take tax payers dollars and re-invent the wheel.
Tony Halliday: ~Meals on Reels ~
It takes a strong fish to swim against the current. Even a dead one can float with it
"It is always in season for old men to learn." Aeschylus (525-456 BC)
"In a mad world only the mad are sane." Akira Kurosawa (1910-1998)
hooty
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Having had a lot of
Having had a lot of experience with South Africans I can say they mainly have two unique qualities.
1. They are full of bullshit
2. They are full of them selves.
You sound no different Dr Shark and if you dont like WA go home.( I hear its a shit hole)
Blue Whaler
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as you would say - relax,
as you would say - relax, rant over mate!
Every day at the Beach is a Good day!
Tony Halliday
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I agree Blue Whaler, let it
I agree Blue Whaler, let it go mate.
Tony Halliday: ~Meals on Reels ~
It takes a strong fish to swim against the current. Even a dead one can float with it
"It is always in season for old men to learn." Aeschylus (525-456 BC)
"In a mad world only the mad are sane." Akira Kurosawa (1910-1998)
Swan River Fisher
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settle down eh?
settle down eh?
petervb
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bullsharks are good on the
bullsharks are good on the chew, i got a 6foot one (not in the swan) and it was great
anyhow a reported sighting wont keep me out of the river diving for crabs / prawns
sarcasm0
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I kayaked here today
No sign of a 4-5 mt shark :D N.B starting point was Kent St Weir in Ferndale. 5.4mt Mission Ecobezhig.
Daniel Y
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Solid paddle.
Solid paddle. Were you fishing? If so why did you go up to nichlsons road haha.
mr_meks
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Caught bream from under the footbridge roughly where the last n in the cannington is. Also koi/carp swimming around.
Albee Mangles
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Fair effort that mate.
How long did that take you, and do you fish of that thing?
sarcasm0
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Gday
I got on the water around 11:40 and finished up at 4:30 loaded up on the car. As said the upwind leg (virtually the whole way from kent st weir to mt henry) sucked, but definately wanted a sail kit for the way back. I was hooning just with the wind on my back and paddle.
I havent fished off it yet, I have only just got it and that was the first chance to give it a run in the river. I have previously used one up in Exmouth doing some work experience in Kayak Guiding. Great expedition boat. I would like to get into kayak fishing, but I need to get some more experience and safety gear before really tackling it.
I wonder if it is impractical for fishing as the storage hatches are impossible to reach when you are seated in the kayak, and the small ones you can reach would really only suit herring, whiting or squid. Also how to control the boat while fishing would become an issue if I hooked something decent without being able to hold the paddle is a bit of an unknown atm.
Bryan
Shorty
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I guess whales and such can
I guess whales and such can get lost going up into a river,,so could a GW ,Tiger or anything else,,will be interesting if we hear more over the next few days,,
Daniel Y
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I highly doubt they would
I highly doubt they would ever go that far up though. I'd say it's way to fresh for them up there. Even if they became disoreintated and ended up somewhere around the traffic bridge, they aren't stupid, they would notice the salt levels decreasing and turn back.
Blue Whaler
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I doubt a whale or any other
I doubt a whale or any other specie for that matter in a river - the bull is unique as it can live in both salt and fresh water. The reason why most bull sharks are found high up the river is the matter of food source. Mulloway is a great example - they move high up the river to spawn, in little shallow coves or close the sides of the river. With a few good size cob high up the river with a couple hundred smaller babies moving seawards, it is like the new take away service on the block.
(Caught a baby bull 15km from the sea in a river, where there are abundance of food source in a river, they will be close.)
Every day at the Beach is a Good day!
out wide
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Hero
"As for killing it in " self"As for killing it in " self defence", no I'd ward it off if I could, but not go out of my way to kill it...." Yep i could just see you splashing around in the water [ warding it off ] Tony. You are a true hero not wanting to kill that shark which by now would have your leg off. Cut the bull shit will ya Tony. What are ya a latter day bleeding heart ?
Daniel Y
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I'd like to know how exactly
I'd like to know how exactly you plan to kill a 4-5m shark? I'm sorry but the dive knife just isn't going to cut it. Your only option is probably going to be to ward it off and gtfo.
Willlo
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If you protect GW 's and
If you protect GW 's and their food source ie whales,seals pinkies in the sound and then take into account the increase in population we are going to see more of them for sure.I dont believe culling Gw's is the answer i think that they are a magnificent fish,but that is what they are a fish and if they take a swimmer on a metro beach then they should be destroyed,as Tony stated they are the same sharks that travel between here and S/Africa so must be habitual and you dont want them to get in the habit of heading over to Cott for a quick feed. I read about the young surfer girl in the Hawian islands that got her arm bit off,the locals there believed the shark to be a bad spirit and took a baited hook out and caught the thing they believed it the right thing to do and i agree with them. Tony you are very noble by saying you would ward it of and not try and kill it,i believe in the heat of the moment not killing it would not even be in your mind gettting the F@# out of there would be.Oh by the way if i was taken by one i would want it hunted down and the jaws placed on my coffin.
Troy you are missing out mate or arent a very good cook,Gummy shark or small bronzies are an excellant feed LOL, crumbies mixed with parmesan cheese and shallow fried beeudiful!!!
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Haynes Hunter Prowler CC
MAINEVENT
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I have seen two sharks in the
I have seen two sharks in the Canning River probably 2 years ago. One was in the Riverton bay right up the back in the mud, real shallow water. There are heaps of Mullet in there maybe enough of a food source. I went shore bashing in there a few weeks later there and a guy was rowing out to his boat and he told me he see's them in there all the time. Then 6 odd months later was around the bend at the Shelley fore shore. Same thing, it was up in real shallow water chasing something. Tried to get a hook up on 4lb but no luck :( Both sharks probably 1.5m a far cry from 4-5m claimed.
sarcasm0
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Sensible question on the shark debate.
For all of these declarations that people make, 'If I get taken by a shark, dont hunt it down or kill it, its a animal doing natural etc.....' or as Willo said 'Oh by the way if i was taken by one i would want it hunted down and the jaws placed on my coffin.'
Do you think either of these would influence Norman Moore or Colin Barnett if they believed they were acting for the good of the community?
brg
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see any fish sarcasm0
see any fish sarcasm0 lol
Willlo
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Probably not Sarcasmo, just
Probably not Sarcasmo, just my opinion the politicians will do whateva they think is best, wouldnt think emperor barnett would have time to read fishing forums mate.
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Haynes Hunter Prowler CC
allrounder
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No more sightings
I guess it got a full guts from feeding on the unicorns that frequently swim across the river there and went back out to sea.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
Shorty
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I went down the river today
I went down the river today and some chap in the water said don''t come in a shark just bit my foot off,,i said which one ? he replied i don't know, sharks all look the same to me,,
bibs
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maybe...
maybe ben cousins was doin a runner from a booze bus again and the shark had a feed on him and left the area.I believe this as much as a 4-5 metre shark in the river
Daniel Westerduin
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This one in this aricle was
This one in this article was caught from the inside of the ASI groyne quite a few years back, and yes they are real good eating. I'd say qite a bit better than snapper to. I saw a pic of a similar size one from the Narrows area in the river but never seen anthing much bigger yet.
http://www.hotbite.com.au/content/fishing_articles_wa/?artid=59&thePage=3&form_speciesid=|1|&form_locationid=Any&form_techid=|Any|&catid=&title=Spring-Snapper-and-Sharks-from-the-Shore
Daniel Y
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I just came back froma
I just came back froma little bit of night snorkleing down point walter way. Unfortunatley no 4-5m bullsharks too report :( The biggest thing spotted was a 50cm wingspan eagle ray.
Although there were some fisherman on the jetty claiming to have just hooked a small bullshark. I love how sharks are the only thing on anyones mind nowdays.