Yes, I took it down as I hadn't had any feedback and I saw an awesome program on the weekend which answered my questions.

Ultimately it was, If you were buying a 4wd, for long trips and around the city, would petrol, diesel or gas be more cost effective. Most long trips will be carrying a boat or a lot of weight on board as well.

The show on the weekend said diesel in new model cars is probably most cost effictive, even with city driving.

ya can't talk 4wd and cost effectiive in the same sentence or breath!
tis just not manly!
You have to suck it up, take a good ol deep breath and then in Tim Th Toolman Taylor style say "arrgghh arrgghh arrgghhh!" ;o)

Then you can talk 4wd's!
Cost effectiveness doesn't come into it!

Cubic inches comes into it - Horse power comes into it - exhaust note even comes into it! How much fuel it can carry comes into it! how big a hill it can climb comes into it - or how deep a hole it can dig to bury itself in comes into it!

But cost effectiveness? (sratch head, scratch head)?

Where does that figure in talking bout $wd's oops that should be 4wd's!

Personally, I believe, in a fuel crisis as we are facing at the meoment - we should thumb our nose at conventional wisdom!

At the very least you need a supercharged or if your a pansy a intercooled turbo charged Brunswich 6.5 diesel V8 at the very least in a big azzed Cruiser or (patrol if you must) wagon with lift kit and fuel tank the size of the exon valdeeeze!

Then you need to mount so many spotlights it melts tar into the next shire when you switch em on and night blinds the space station astronaughts!! ;o)

Lets not pussy foot around if we are going to do 4WD's - non a this panzy azzed butmuncher quasi 4wd's neither!

How can you give a Tim th' toolman taylor rendition of a "Arghh arrgghh arrgghh" over a rav 4 etc etc??????????

I dunno, I think maybe we'll need TWO forums for 4wds one for rev heads and one for wannabees! ;o)

Course - you MIGHT want to invest in a few million BP oil shares if you want to be able to afford to run these babys - but lets face it competiton to buy em ain't going to be strong in the middle of an oil crisis!

The idea of the biggest meanest diesel v 8 4wd you can get running on bio diesel might be the go! All you needs a few 1000's of acres of canola seed to brew your own biodesel and to hell with opec and their fuel crisis!

Then we can all 'upgrade' to humvees! ;o)

Make mine a F250 7.3 turbo dual cab please!, And er fillerup before I take delivery will ya! ;O)

Whats this world commin too when a man mentions "cost effectiveness" and "4wd truck" in the same sentence????????
Definitely mutually exclusive terms!
Bit like mentioning the words "military" and "intelligence" in the same sentence when everyone knows its an oxymoron!!

Definitely time for a change methinks!

Sometimes ya just have to make a stand and defy the polically correct thing to do of the times, and just go for broke and buy the biggest meanest gas guzzling 4wd on God's earth and live like theres no tomorrow!

As Billy Connollys jacket patch says - "too old to die young!"

Cheers...aaahh er "arrgghh arrgghh aarrgghh"!

You are a funny bugger at times Flywest.

How bout this for 'cost effective' - have you heard or done any reading on PEAK OIL ??

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

Take a read, or do an internet search on the 36,000,000 websites that exist about peak oil, running out of juice is only a matter of time.