Advice on Rod

I'm going to buy my boy a Y6 graduation pressie and am thinking a nice combo would be something he'll keep for many many and get heaps of joy out of. He's taken a liking to my Type J/5000 Biomaster or Catalina/5000 Biomaster combos which gives me anxiety when he uses them so looking for something similar.

Budget is around $500 and probably go a 5000 Stradic so can anyone recommend a rod around the $150‐200 mark. 

The Saltist 18 PE2-4 rods look like they will fit the bill so has anyone used one of those?

Cheers JF

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 I havent used the rod

Thu, 2021-07-29 06:24

 I havent used the rod mentioned, but i do have a few of the eupro shogun rods in the pe 2. I havent really treated them well and they  should’ve have broken on me multiple times but they are still going strong. I've used them hard for the past 4 years and they are great for the price paid. 

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havent tried the salitst 18,

Thu, 2021-07-29 09:34

havent tried the salitst 18, but picked up a saltist hyper recently for 250, and am very happy with it. mine is a pe 3-4 think you can get a light jig/spin version whci is 2-4?

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Hey

Thu, 2021-07-29 10:52

 I have a ns blackhole Explorer pe3- s583 plenty of balls would possibly be a good rod for him if your keen send me a pm

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Cheers mate but as a special

Thu, 2021-07-29 11:18

Cheers mate but as a special pressie I'll be going new so it's all shiny with tags when I give it to him

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 I have an NS Blackhole pe3

Thu, 2021-07-29 13:15

 I have an NS Blackhole pe3 s583 with a stradic sw 5000pg (poor mans stella great reel)

awesome combo landed 30kg sambos and plenty of Dhus over 13kg with it very capable combo

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 Those Stradic's are awesome

Thu, 2021-07-29 13:20

 Those Stradic's are awesome reels. Have a couple in my artillery.

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 Another vots for a Stradic

Wed, 2021-08-04 11:05

 Another vote for a Stradic 4000 or 5000. Great reels for the price. 

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Ive found the Abu Garcia

Thu, 2021-07-29 14:43

Ive found the Abu Garcia Veritas to be a great little rod with value for money.

Mine copped a hammering at the Abrolhos and held tight.

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Cheers guys, appreciate the

Thu, 2021-07-29 21:48

Cheers guys, appreciate the leads

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 Let us know what you end up

Tue, 2021-08-03 13:31

 Let us know what you end up getting and why Frosty. Useful info for a lot of people I imagine.

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Will do mate

Wed, 2021-08-04 08:48

Will do mate

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I dropped into Tackleworld

Mon, 2021-08-09 14:41

I dropped into Tackleworld today an picked up a Shimano Jewel (JEW621JSP) which is a PE 1.5-3 and nice and light and looks great aesthetically so has anyone used one of these?

At the moment I am sitting on a decision between this and the NS S583. I didn't much care for the really thick foam grip and heavy feel on the PE3 Saltist.

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 NS blackhole explorer

Mon, 2021-08-09 18:12

 NS blackhole explorer excellent rods mate.

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Cheers everyone. Went with a

Thu, 2021-11-04 20:19

Cheers everyone. Went with a 5000 Stradic SW and NS Blackhole Explorer.

His graduation is 15th Dec so bang on time too 

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Let’s hope it stays on the boat.

Fri, 2021-11-05 07:52

If he's a chip off the old block chances are it's going to take a swim one day. A lanyard might be a good investment Frosty...:D 

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If he's a chip off the old

Fri, 2021-11-05 08:56

If he's a chip off the old block a combo going swimming is the abslute least of my worries...

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 Just a heads up with Stradic

Fri, 2021-11-05 09:28

 Just a heads up with Stradic Reel (as I've just gone thru this).

I also lashed out and brought a Stradic, most money I've ever spent on a Fishing Reel -lol.

The Reel became very noisy, and I've put up with it, thinking it's a new reel and it well get better- "wrong".

 The Line Roller Bearing failed, and you can do a search( wish I'd done this sooner).  It appears to be a common problem with Stradic.

 May not happen to you- hope not.  But no big deal- just replace with new bearing.

Cheers.

 

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Cheers mate

Fri, 2021-11-05 09:51

Cheers mate

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 Was thinking of getting a

Wed, 2022-06-29 11:20

 Was thinking of getting a new outfit along these lines and will probably get a 4000 or 5000 Stradic for it. I would like it to be a bit of an allrounder to also be able to throw topwater lures up north etc. Any suggestions for a rod that will cover all the bases? I guess it just needs to be longer than say Frosty's NS Blackhole pe3 s583?

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 Check out the Diawa Demon

Wed, 2022-06-29 12:20

 Check out the Diawa Demon blood range Dave, I've got 4 of them at different ratings and literally can't fault them. Caught everything from Hezzas, Big Dhu and up north reds etc. 

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You may also like to check

Wed, 2022-06-29 19:32

You may also like to check out the abu-garcia salty stage krx. Some cracking prices on them at the moment too. In saying this, ive picked up a few tuna flicking a jig that is already tied to a NS Blackhole.

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 Thanks Selthy I'll have a

Thu, 2022-06-30 15:24

 Thanks Selthy I'll have a look at the Abu Garcia KRX too.

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 I've been looking at a new

Thu, 2022-06-30 05:46

 I've been looking at a new pe2 rod and liked the td black rods almost bought one then had to get a root canel so have put it on the back burner for the moment was going to get a saltist bg mq with it. 

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Pic attached with it in

Thu, 2022-06-30 07:44

Pic attached with it in action vs a 72cm pinkie in 42m. It's a beast with a a nice reactive tip and a tonne of backbone

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 Very nice looking backbone,

Thu, 2022-06-30 13:37

 Very nice looking backbone, I'm sure you'd clip his ear if he ever high sticked lol

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 Thanks Frosty it does indeed

Thu, 2022-06-30 15:28

 Thanks Frosty it does indeed look like it's a weapon! Happy with the reel too?

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Yeah, I want to swap him!

Thu, 2022-06-30 15:40

Yeah, I want to swap him!

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 Hey guys I'm now going to

Thu, 2022-08-11 11:59

 Hey guys I'm now going to buy a  Stradic 5000SW and found a rod that I bought off a user here that I had forgotten about and was wondering if it would fit my intended use. It's an Azusa ALS702M-CFB PE 2-4. I can't find anything on line about the rod but it's probably worth a shot. Intended use is a bit of lure casting, shallow bottom fishing, maybe some light jigging. Stated lure weight is 40 - 80 grams (I think).

Interested in others thoughts on this. I'm always up for buying more gear but right now there are other priorities.

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 For what it's worth Dave I

Thu, 2022-08-11 16:12

 For what it's worth Dave I can't fault the Azusa's , have a few in the arsenal and they are pure quality rods. It should pair up beautifully with the Stradic with that lure weight range. 

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 Thanks Andy. I bought it

Thu, 2022-08-11 16:40

 Thanks Andy. I bought it quite a while back and forgot it was there! Paid bugger all for it too. The tip is probably a bit stiffer than I'd like for smaller lures but I have a really sweet custom 6kg outfit for that anyway. The rod says max drag 12kg and that's the same for the Stradic so pretty well suited. Is the only difference between the 5000 and the 6000 in the spool? If so maybe the 6000 is the go.

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 I answered my own question.

Mon, 2022-08-15 15:14

 I answered my own question. 6000 has same body but slightly bigger spool. For only 10g extra weight and $20 I went with more capacity on the 6000.

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Jigging question

Tue, 2022-08-16 11:52

 Okay now that I have the rod and reel sorted, I just need to ask a dumb question. The rod is rated PE 2 - 4 max drag of 12kg. The reel is spooled with 30 pound braid and the reel rated to max drag of 12kg. So far it all sounds right. The rod is rated for lure weights from 40 - 80g. Does that refer to any lures or could I use slightly heavier jigs? I know that 80g max will apply to casting lures but was wondering if there was some tolerance for slow-pitch jigging? I've never done any jigging and this is not meant to be a jigging outfit but I'm going north in a while and may want to do some shallow water jigging.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

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 Without suggesting I'm any

Tue, 2022-08-16 18:31

 Without suggesting I'm any sort of jigging Sensei, I'd suggest you would be ok using pretty much any of the jigs you would use in local waters, bar the super heavy deep drop jigs. It is just that your rod is not ideal to make the jig talk. Although, and possibly the result of my lack of skills, I find I get most my hits when the Jig is on the fall, doing the little dance the manufacturer has designed it to do.

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 Thanks Selthy. I know the

Wed, 2022-08-17 10:56

 Thanks Selthy. I know the rod wont maximise the jigs action but on a 23 foot boat with 3 blokes for a week we can only take so much gear, hence trying to get outfits that can serve more than one purpose. If I have some success and enjoy the jigging caper I'll look at a specialist jigging rod down the track. I just don't want to bust this one using jigs that are too heavy!

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 Nothging more than 100gm

Wed, 2022-08-17 12:22

 Nothging more than 100gm Dave and you'll be fine, just depends on what depth and current. 

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 Thanks Andy. I don't think

Wed, 2022-08-17 13:03

 Thanks Andy. I don't think we'll do anything very deep so I'll stick with 100g max. I also want to give vibes a try but that will definitely need to be pretty shallow and not a lot of current.