AFL Trade Week
Submitted by big john on Mon, 2023-10-09 13:14
What was looking like a quiet trade period has gone boom in the last few days.
As a Pies fan, I'd be disappointed to lose Taylor Adams but it will free up some cap space and we've got some young midfielders in the VFL which need AFL minutes.
Lachie Schultz could be a great get, with McCreery hopefully going into the midfield in 2024. Schultz could eventually replace Billy Elliot in the forward line.
A lot of water to go under the bridge to get that deal done but we're rapidly becoming a destination club.
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Similar thoughts
Yep, I was initially wondering why we would want another small forward, however he would be a great replacement for Elliot who in my opinion, was pretty ordinary in the finals and at 31 probably only has another season or 2 of decent footy in him. I am a little concerned at what Freo might ask for given their request for a top 10 pick for Henry..... I understand they have invested heavily in him over the journey but a mid second round pick is about what he is worth I would have thought.
Would be a shame to see Adams go but gives Mcrae a chance to break in after knocking on the door all season. Should be well and truly ready to fire now.
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Not good losing players, but
Not good losing players, but guess they will be wanting decent return for Henry and Schultz.
Schultz still with a year to run so will play hard ball like they did with Lobb.
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Lose
Lose him for nothing next year if not traded this year (unrestricted free agent end 2024).
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True..WA clubs cant avoid
True..WA clubs cant avoid that, unless someone is chasing him there's not much Freo can do.
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Play hard ball, get him to
Play hard ball, get him to re-sign or don't play him in 24...
Players have too much power, pies need to cough up or fuck him over...
He wants to get to Pies, Freo have every right to put their price on his head just like cats did with TK and giants did with JC
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You could do that....
Sure Freo could do that, but after his contract runs out next year he is an unrestricted free agent and can go as he pleases. Freo have little bargaining power now, and absolutely none if they decide to play hard ball and keep him for an additional year.
I know you aren't a freo supporter but I understand lots of fans get disgruntled when a player requests a trade and think the club should play hard ball out of spite, but that certainly isn't going to benefit Freo in any way! Their best bet is to try and negotiate an appealing contract extension if they want to keep him.
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Maybe he thinks he has a
Maybe he thinks he has a better opertunity to win a premiership at the pies than at the dockers.
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Maybe doing a Tom Mitchell
Hey Timboon, it's all coming out now hey, might be the same for Schultz
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Freo and Belly seem to have
Freo and Belly seem to have done alright last few years when it comes to trades etc...Good luck West Coast with Mr magoo pulling the strings.
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Chuck some frills on the
Chuck some frills on the collar and you'd have Austin Powers!
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Geeeez, what the **ck is
Geeeez, what the **ck is going on at Freo. Freo didn't show the love towards lachie and they are now paying the price, same with Acres. I can handle the other players leaving, even that mistaken ridden frustrating Henry.
Who's next, Darcy ???
On another note, geez, WC could get a bumper deal done with NM and load up. I aint no WC fan but I would be seriously considering a pick swap.
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I can't help but think of the
I can't help but think of the monorail saleman from the Simpsons anytime West Coast have a high draft pick.... danged if he knows how to use it.
Hehe.... mule.
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Frosty..sort that fkn
Frosty..sort that fkn avatar.
Ya took the bet pay the fee..surprised uncle hasn't reported you to admin.
hehe...sucker.
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Been sorted for a week, you
Been sorted for a week, you might need to refresh your cache mate. It wasn't a bet by the way... I offered myself up just for a laugh
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Weak as Piss frosty..think
Weak as Piss frosty..think you need the refresh!
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You can only do so much with
You can only do so much with a shit photo BrockO.
On a side note will freo stop recruiting anyone named Lachie? All the good ones seem to want to leave.
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Managed to sort the image!
Managed to sort the image!
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There goes our vice captain
To the swans, very strange
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Was always a strange trade
Was always a strange trade considering Gawns status at Melbourne, hope he gets a fair go at sydney.
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Ha ha I meant Adams
But glad brodies got out if that demons shit hole
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Bloody weird
Melbourne to pick up 1 million of Grundys salary over 4 years, does that let the pies off the hook?
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The winner in that deal is
The winner in that deal is Sydney.
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What's old mate Clayton been up to
Imagine the media if it was the pies ha ha
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A bit like the Bulldogs
Melbourne are a vanilla club, their supporters love them but no one else gives a shit about them.
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Did you say Melbourne or
Did you say Melbourne or Claremont?
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You have the shirt on Frosty
You have the shirt on Frosty ,have you booked into the dentist of just doing a trip to Northbridge.
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Exhibit A
Player gets done for cocaine in his doping test, no one really gives a shit.
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Tall poppy syndrome BJ.Our
Tall poppy syndrome BJ.
Our entire club was placed on a 12-month suspended sentence to strip us of premiership points and draft picks in 2007 and we had a player suspended for 12 weeks and we never even had a single player test positive.... (whilst on the list)
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Yeah Best team in the league as well
What would have happened it they went on to win the big dance
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He would have supplied all
He would have supplied all his team mates and it would have been an even bigger party.
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It's just representative of
It's just representative of society norms but sports people get tested and most others don't (mining companies and others excepted). I'm not condoning it but plenty of 20 somethings (and much older) partake in society.
He's a clown though for not being more careful about the timing, as they would all know the days required to give a clean test result. When a footballer gets caught on video using drugs I always say the best way to avoid it is to stop using drugs. The other way is to get better mates!
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Same goes with going the
Same goes with going the growl on the Mrs on a public thunderbox too
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Ha ha ha ha wtf
Ha ha ha ha wtf
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Might need to fact check
That one or put up some proof
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Apparently there's a video
Apparently there's a video doing the rounds
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Do you really think so
Every hater in Australia would be screaming out
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Must be about the only bloke
Must be about the only bloke that hasn't seen it. Been doing the rounds for a week.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
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Diacos boys
Signed for 6 years yeh har
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Jackie boy, ugle hagan
On the trade table?
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One can only live in
One can only live in hope....
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Trent Bianca, they rusco
Would be worth a look for you guys
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Don Pyke announced as the new
Don Pyke announced as the new West Coast CEO. Great move I reckon
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Bought
Sounds more like they offered a lot more than they wanted considering only a month or so back he said he wasn't interested in the job so something must have changed
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E girls grabbed
Our performance coach, won't be able to blame him if it goes pear shaped
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Reminder another week
since the pies won the premiership
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It still doesn't matter....
It still doesn't matter....
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Ha ha poor wa teams
Want another home game each, just another one to lose, maybe bring the pies over for 2 games as home team
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What the pies travel further
What the pies travel further than the g........ your dreaming uncle.
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They still think Marky Mark
They still think Marky Mark is premier and the borders are closed.
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cmon Rob
this pie bashing is a bit unfiar mate...
they travel extensively the pies
those Docklands trips are very lenghty and complicated you know...
navigating a second tram connection from Smith Street must cause all sorts of logistical issues
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I agree with Dimma
Docklands sucks, we should live at the G.
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Enjoying a couple if special
Carlton magpie premiership beers tonight, might ever watch the replay
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Were they luke warm and
Were they luke warm and flat?
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Like our 2015 Eagles? Gotta
Like our 2015 Eagles? Gotta be honest!
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Pick swap period has ended
Pick swap period has ended and WCE are holding out on pick 1.
Seems the best offer was Melbourne with 6,11,42 and their 2024 1st rounder.
North after their first laughable dip offered 2 and 2x picks in the late teens for 23. So basically giving up 1 and 23 for 2, 15 and 18.
There's still the chance of a pick swap on the night but sounds like it'll have to be a godfather offer.
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Can't believe pies are looking
At chad wingard
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Must need a new water boy.
Must need a new water boy.
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Well they haven't done much wrong
yet billy, unlike your basket case club
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The Eagles are in no
The Eagles are in no position to think they hold the Trump card with pick swapping frosty.
The Eagles need talent, they need several talented youngsters.
If I were the other clubs I wouldn't even consider it, I'd wait a couple of years and when Harley has had enough of losing and carrying the team throw a ridiculous offer at him.
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Hey Boon
This looks like a black dog.
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On a positive Eagles note
On a positive Eagles note the '92 GF team are being inducted in the WAIS Hall of Fame tomorrow night. I'm attending and it will be the most joy i get out of WCE this year
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I wonder if Frostys guide
I wonder if Frostys guide dog will be there?
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What actually is your point
What actually is your point Frosty? You think I'm speaking the obvious?
If that's the case then they should have taken what North or Melbourne offered.
Eagles have fuck all after 1, again if I were the other clubs I'd be playing the long game...
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Point is if I say it’s a
Point is if I say it’s a black dog you’ll say it’s a pink and purple zebra and if I say it’s a pink and purple zebra you’ll say it’s a black dog purely for your own jollies.... yawwwwwn
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What's the rule if the young
What's the rule if the young bloke goes...nar fk it, no chance I'm playing there, what happens then ?
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Once a player is drafted then
Once a player is drafted then they are contracted to that club. It'd be just like the Cam McCarthy situation where if they refuse to play for a club then they also cannot play the next tier down like VFL, WAFL, SANFL also. Unlike the McCarthy situation where he had one season to sit out, draftees are contracted for 3 years so it'd then be up to the club for try and facilitate a trade at the end of the first season.
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Still currently 2 years,
Still currently 2 years, next draft turns to 3 I'm pretty sure.
My point prior was not to disagree with you but you are always seeing things through your WC rose coloured glasses.
You call North's offer of 2,15&18 laughable for 1,23!!!!
That is fucking hilarious.
North don't need a heap of young stars, they are well stacked...
Melbourne might want to do a deal to snare Harley but I really don't see why clubs would bother pick swapping with WC.
It's WC that are in the dark deep hole, they are the ones that need multiple good youngsters and with 1+23 that gets you one good youngster but in a weak draft 23 could be dog turd...
Hawks, North and Melbourne should stick fat and either Goto draft with what they've got or let WC come to them.
Just my opinion of course Frosty.
Bring on 2024
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Opinion seeing things through
Opinion seeing things through WC vitriolic Coopers Green goggles.... same level of bias really. Like I said, yawwwwwn.
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. Summed up well Frosty. Are
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Haven't had a beer for weeks
Haven't had a beer for weeks Frosty, sitting on a pipeline barge laying the Scarborough pipeline but nice dig there bruz...
Totally wasn't a dig at WC, I just don't see why clubs would bend over to facilitate anything with the worst team in the history of the AFL.
They've made shit decisions in recent years and now they are trying to dig themselves out of that hole.
I hope they get back to being competitive, it makes the draw unfair for teams that only get to play them once.
They'll be worse this year....
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Worst team in AFL history
Worst team in AFL history Boon? looooool point the finger at the Dockers or another team that hasn't won a flag for 0ver 50 years. C'mon mate bow stetching at it's best.
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Bet ya glad you went the
Bet ya glad you went the Scarborough over the Barrosa..recon the lads are being paid for stand down ?.
Mr Twiggy and a few other funding this defenders group surely.
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Bill, the Hawks aren't flash
Bill, the Hawks aren't flash either...
Unlikely to play finals this year but the one after we'll be hard to beat.
Actually we were hard to beat, we beat the premiers comfortably this year so that shows which direction the Hawks are heading.
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E girls beat us last year
How'd that work out for them?
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Howdy Brock, Pretty shit
Howdy Brock,
Pretty shit situation and a sign of the times in this country.
A company leases a tenament from the government and does years of works and then right at the last minute the handbrake can get pulled by one Elder....
Something doesn't seem right.
The latest with Barossa is they laying one section of pipe and they'll most likely have to re route ( or pay ) to get the other section in.
It will no doubt happen but someone's palm will be greased.
Anyway I'm heading to the heli deck to see if I can hear a whale singing a sunken ship song...
Nothing to do with WC Frosty.
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Frosty, Roos pulled out of
Frosty, Roos pulled out of their interest for P1, What should the Eagles do now?
Melbourne seem like the only other potential suiter, Seems to me like Melbourne have the upper hand here....
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Perhaps taking Harley and
Perhaps taking Harley and hoping he sticks out a few tough years might be their best option now?
I thought taking a few WA lads might serve them better but time will tell.
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We'll find out in a week I
We'll find out Monday I suppose.
I haven't read anything about him being a flight risk beside a story by Sam McClueless which was shot down in flames by Reid himself on radio even taking a sideswipe at McClueless in the interview. He lives about 15 mins from the NSW border so not exactly inner City Melbourne and we have a strong record of retaining interstate players. McKercher being from Tassie is a far greater flight risk than Reid.
WC can either take a player seen as a 'generational talent' to add to Ginbey and Hewett in the middle to setup our midfield for a decade or be wowed by a ridiculous offer but by all accounts the talent in this draft drops off significantly after the top 10.
Word is the WC are looking to trade out their 2024 first rounder if Curtin slips past Hawthorn. High risk, high reward tactic but I watched a bit of Curtin this year and the kid is elite and well rounded.
It'd be nice if any of our 92/94 players had produced boys that can play.... the boys obviously married non athletic socialites!
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Ha, sorry Andy didn't see
Ha, sorry Andy didn't see your post...
Just using headlines mate haha...
WC are probably the most successful team in the modern era ( even having to nearly drown in their supporters tears because of the travel and pro Vic AFL ).
But... WC in the past two years are worse than Fitzroy, Fitzroy got booted because they were so shitful....
Unfortunately this year will be worse.
I can see North and GC ten goaling WC this year but that's just my opinion.
Frosty... You're telling me a bloke I've never heard of from Tasmania is more of a flight risk than a generational player that every club in the East will be throwing 1.5/yr at?? Son you are a dreamer. Is Tasman going back to play for the Jack jumpers?
Tough position for WC, they'll know they'll need to throw the bank at Reid before he comes out of contract but that's how you can dig a salary cap hole which is another reason WC are as shitful as they are.
Wasn't just McLure reporting Reid didn't want to come to WC.
Reid changed his tune once it became a thing.
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The AFL will be bending over
The AFL will be bending over backwards that we don't see another CGS or GWS which will include heavy concessions on Tassie chasing established/emerging senior talent talent. By the 2026 trade period McKercher (who is from Launceston) will have 4 seasons under his belt and will be coming unto his prime. Very heavy go home factor there with AFL assistance to boot.
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2026 is a long way away....
2026 is a long way away....
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Sorry mate I didn't realise
Sorry mate I didn't realise you were talking about Mckercher in this year's draft, thought you meant a kid WC already had....
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Yeah that McKercher. After
Yeah that McKercher. After Reid the next best two are McKercher and Duursma.
A Tasmanian with a Tassie team about to launch and the brother of a bloke that requested a trade back to Victoria from SA just a month ago.
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Could be another twist in P1
Could be another twist in P1 tail yet, Hawks might go hard at Reid
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With picks 4 and 44? Seems
With picks 4 and 44? Seems only fair taking back that pick 44 seeing as we absolutely rinsed the Hawks with it for Brockman
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Uncontracted.... Not much
Uncontracted....
Not much can be done....
Wasn't getting a game anyway....
Good chance of winning WC B and F though
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Very entertaining
Fellas
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Thanks for your support
Thanks for your support uncle,
He's been hitting the vodka cruisers hard and rambling on eh.
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Condolences to Harley and his
Condolences to Harley and his family during this difficult time.