Alvey set up
Submitted by Mattb123 on Thu, 2013-01-10 09:55
Just noticed this land based sub forum. I'll keep it short this time...
Q) What is the quinessential Alvey for Perth Beaches. Reel and Rod? Older models ok, on a budget:) but intend to fish with this for a long time.
Mattb123
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Just for reference this set
Just for reference this set up is on gumtree at the moment:
"ALVEY 650 / SURF CHAMPION ROD / 13' (3.96m) 7kg Line Class
ALVEY SIDECASTER REEL / 6" BAKERLIGHT MODEL / STAR DRAG "
But the reel sounds a tad vintage to me?
anypuddle
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alvey c5
alvey c5 deep spool model with 15kg trilene matched to a ozflex su450. nice.
when you finally hook the big one you will be happy you got on this combo. casts a mile too.
Anywhere anytime
Fireguard
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I'm running this exact combo
I'm running this exact combo - big and strong and almost indestructable
I've just got myself an SU9177 that I also put the Deep Spool alvey on and use that for sticking out live baits - this things even stronger :)
Mattb123
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jebus christ 14.5 footer one
jebus christ 14.5 footer one piece rod! How and I getting that around on the fixie?
Mattb123
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A 650cs jsut got put on
A 650cs jsut got put on gumtree.... but I can't figure what a cs is? There isn;t one of the website.. there is a C5? Any pointers?
opsrey
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Weight is the main factor .....
Make sure you go for the lightest 600 or 650 you can get. Aim for the new vented ones preferably with the lever drag. The rod will depend upon may issues like what height surf, what weights, bait size etc that you will be dealing with. Go the 650 size IMO
make sure the rod has a line guide on it, and that it is a low winch position.
The rods are not expensive so go for a 13 footer that can take 7 to 10 kg line. If you need something different then buy another. You won't own more than two or three. I use both fiberglass blanks and glass/carbon fibre blanks and have not settled on one style yet.
Get a "Alvey" rod bucket, you will hurt if you don't. Sometimes I don't, and always regret not taking/using.
Make sure you put the stated line capacity on, and ALWAYS use a swivel.
Let us know what you get and post a pick. Good luck.
Mattb123
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Thanks Osprey. Seems
Thanks Osprey. Seems sensible advice. There is a 650cs with a Wilson rod on gumtree right now... although claims to be a Wilson Surfmaster rod which doesn't seem to exist? Will have to check it out. There also doesn't appear to be a 650cs in the Alvey range:) Got 30lb line on it which is a bit heavy for me TBH but new line not a bad idea anway. I mean it is just metro choppers and stuff for the most, maybe a salmon run every couple of years:)
Will post pics for sure. Hopefully with some fish!
Mattb123
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quick follow up. I am right
quick follow up. I am right handed but I've always reeled with my left hand (taught to take fish weight on rod with right hand and reel with left). I know you can get left hand alveys but from reading up on casting it seems that I'd have to reverse everything and have my right hand down at the reel and left hand higher up the rod. Which I think I would be completely useless at. As I say at present I cast like a regular right hander.
Any thoughts? I mean I can reel right hand no dramas I guess if I need to, more than I could cast left handed.
sid
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Hi Mattiv'e got an alvey
Hi Matt
iv'e got an alvey 650c5 left hand wind and ozflex su400 if your interested pm me
cheers Sid
opsrey
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A solution at hand ...
Thats what is sooo good about this site. Sid may well have the answer, so twist his arm and give it a go. Dont forget to post pics of first fish and rod/reel.
Mattb123
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He's got a PM don't you worry
He's got a PM don't you worry about that. Those rods are quality that's for sure. Getting offers left right and centre... what am I getting myself in tpo that averyone wants to sell their Alveys? Maybe it is just a phase we all have to go through:)
opsrey
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Alveys are always in "vouge"
Keep your mind open and you will have a great time with the alvey. Keep your mind open and hold the rod where sensible. Perhaps you will find a little different to be better. I'll keep a look out for a post of your new rig and perhps a fish or two. Tight lines.
Callum24
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hey mate while i keep to the
hey mate while i keep to the egg betters for the lighter beach fishing i own 3 alvey's and they are my number 1 go to reel for heavy beach fishing and ballooning they really come into there own up in lucky bay (kalbarri) and places like that i have 651c5 with the slip handle deep spool and with 600m of 50lb shogun and2 651e5 fixed handle deep spool with 700m of 50lb platapus platnium i've just bout stopped every think on my 651e5 upgrade to some teflon drag washers i use iton a ozflex fsu6120 or ozflex fgh17 the best thing about the fixed handle once u got em turned u can really give it to them there a great real and so easy to look after my mate has his old mans 1 20 years old 1 set of drag washers brand new stick with em
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TerryF
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Tips for using an Alvey reel
www.surfcasters.iinet.net.au/UsingAlveyReels.html
Mattb123
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Anyone seen Sid?
Anyone seen Sid?
Mattb123
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Ahh well Sid seems to have
Ahh well Sid seems to have fallen off the radar. I was chatting to one of my dad's mates who has alveys and his opinion is he wouldn't bother off metro beaches tailor etc. Too heavy. He saves them for up north/steep point etc. In the mean time I'm going to pick up another spin reel and maybe put the decent Alvey combo on the birthday wish list. Buy new and just keep it for lifetime. 40 this year so I deserve a treat I reckon.
Callum24
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yeah mate i agree the deep
yeah mate i agree the deep spool alvey's are heavy oldgirls but leave it in your rod holder with a big fresh oily slab or livey while your flickin the lite gear nothing like playin a tailor in only to hear your alvey start screamin u forget the tailor pretty quickly belive me. another thing i recomend is the 651e5 it has a fixed handel which means some serious come hear power.dont worry bout the casting u get use to it only a couple sessions and you'll have it sussed. all my alveys are right handed but if u wanna give 1 a try your more than welcome
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Formerathlete
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I have had several Alveys for
I have had several Alveys for 30 years including 2 x 651/C5s. They are great for the northern platforms when teamed with my FSU5120 or FSU8120. I also use them on the beaches at night on equally old Sneider Glas 9177s. Only last Saturday night something screemed off with about 400m of 15kg mono after grabbing a whole tailor on a gang of 8/0s. I got half the line back before terminal tackle failed.
I also have a 650 which I team with a 7177 - great when the fish a little further out and a longer cast is needed. Alveys and heavy rods are certainly overkill on the usual suspects around town but they are great on the bigger fish. Plus they are virtually indestructable. 25 years or so ago my heavy combo sat in the rod holder on a rocky headland down south when a king wave took it into the sea. It vanished but the very next wave dumped it back at my feet. The spool had a few chunks taken out of it which I filled with some resin and sanded back. After a rinse and very basic service the reel was as good as new... and is still in action! Yesterday I even picked up a new Ozflex SU9177 (Excel Composite blank) which may get a run this weekend. Enjoy!
Callum24
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hey mate what the line
hey mate what the line rating and cast weight on the su9177?
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Formerathlete
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15-24kg and 150-200g
15-24kg and 150-200g
Mattb123
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So I've just picked up a
So I've just picked up a couple of 650c5 alveys on gumtree... The dream is edging closer. Might rig one up lighter line and the other heavier. You can't have too many reels can you? :)
would they be at all useful as boat reels? And do you need special rods for boat alveys if just bottom bouncing?
499
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to avoid line twist use open
to avoid line twist use open box type swivels and if u keep getting line twist use two back to back, and buy colour black, not brass
buy a 2nd alvey and just buy a new f/g spool...the new reels are crap unless htey have gone back to the old design...dont have the screw cap for greaseing the shaft
youll need an 9 inch for boat use otherwise yr right arm will have a blowout
and see jim head, he might have a couple of custom teflon drag washers left over made by john D