Ammo Jetty

 I see that Recfishwest was down at the Ammo jetty yesterday according to there posts. Supposedly spreading the right way to fish, as last year was an absolute disgrace, with Salmon being slaughtered all over the jetty. Nothing wrong with catching a few, if you like them, just don't need ammunition for greens to have this great pastime shutdown because a few idiots.

 

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You are correct

Wed, 2016-04-06 20:10

We need to educate those "few idiots" who are wasting the fish.  I bet that most of the fish taken are not eaten (taste aweful even as fishcakes).  A photograph or even a clip taken on a phone is a lasting memory.

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Thu, 2016-04-07 05:09

seem some pretty dumbfounding photos and videos on facey of late... hundreds of people lining the jetty, shoulder to shoulder, blood stained decks, and literally buckets and buckets of salmon and bonito, sitting in blood-filled buckets in the sun. appalling to be honest.

makes me glad there aren't more jettys around, and ecstatic that these "lower economic" fisherman can't afford boats..

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 Maybe I'm taking what your

Sun, 2016-04-10 12:27

 Maybe I'm taking what your saying the wrong way but your "lower economic" crack pisses me off. How much money a person makes has nothing to do with how they act when it comes fishing & how they regard the laws. It sounds to me like your lumping everyone that can't afford a boat into this 'flaunting the rules' category. I can't afford a boat, same story for most of the people I fish with, yet none of us disobey the rules & we treat our catch humanely & with respect. Personally I very rarely keep a fish to eat let alone leave it laying around bleeding in the sun. I much prefer to watch a fish swim away, even prime eating fish like snapper, flathead, whiting etc. Idiots are idiots no matter how much money they make or wether or not they have a boat. I've seen plenty of boats coming in with fish just laying on the deck or bleeding in a bucket. 

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Sun, 2016-04-10 14:55

 I agree totally with what your saying here, but I'm kinda in another boat here, I can have a boat, but have absolutely nowhere to put one. 

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if my "lower economic" crack pisses you off...

Mon, 2016-04-11 09:38

lower economic, lower economic, lower economic, lower economic, lower economic, lower economic, lower economic, lower economic, lower economic, lower economic, lower economic, lower economic......

seriously Shimka, you think these guys that fish the ammo jetty are from The Royal Freshwater Bay Yacht Club?? they drive down their in their Maserati's and AMG's?

No. they are generally (and I say this from the numerous videos and photos that linger on the perth/facebook fishing pages, that are scouring the face of my personal interest and pastime), bogan, bum-fuck dick heads (they're not fisherman, by any means), from "lower economic" suburbs. I also know this, as I have to deal with these same guys at work.

as others have said, their "gold-rush" mentality will be the down fall of themselves, and that jetty, and places like it. same with the guys that shark fish from these places, that don't do the right thing with the sharks once they've caught them.

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You love stirring the pot

Mon, 2016-04-11 09:59

You love stirring the pot almost as much as me :-)

Maybe you should go down there & have a look for yourself one day. You might be surprised just how many new range rovers, Mercedes, HSV's etc are down there. I guess you must be lower economic by your own standards then because I'm betting yo don't tow your boat with a Ferrari. Try to get it through your head: how much money a person makes has nothing at all to do with wether they are 'true fisherman' that does the right thing. I make SFA compared to most but I manage to do the right thing & so do many others that don't earn as much as me. I guess we should ban fishing for anyone that doesn't earn enough because they must lack the required IQ to learn how to treat their catch with respect & how to use a bin. Money doesn't buy brains, only arrogance.

Your attitude stinks & just shows you are a stuck up prick that really doesn't have a clue.

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Jesus farkin Christ shitka...

Mon, 2016-04-11 17:23

you are officially dumber than I gave you credit for...

 

so you're saying smart people with heaps of money, like to live in shit houses in shit areas?

 

 

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Whatever ass clown. Your

Mon, 2016-04-11 18:23

Whatever ass clown. Your trying to troll about something you know full well I didn't mention at all. Pull your head in.

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Lower.....

Mon, 2016-04-11 18:45

.....economic....

 

 

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 Lolz

Mon, 2016-04-11 22:16

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 ammo jetty today, real proud

Sun, 2016-04-10 18:01

 

ammo jetty today, real proud landbased fisho's  and yes pic from FB 

 

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Looks like some

Sun, 2016-04-10 18:21

 3 rd world place.it certianly is a bad look

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 It's a shame that Recfish

Thu, 2016-04-07 08:27

 It's a shame that Recfish fees are being used to pay people to go down and teach people to put their rubbish in bins and that bleeding catches out on the jetty in the sun isn't the best way to handle them when they could be put to better use, guess it needs to be done though. 

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Hi all There were a few of us

Thu, 2016-04-07 13:38

Hi all
There were a few of us down there yesterday and you will be glad to know most of us are volunteers’ not paid Recfishwest staff. We give up our time to run the RFW fishing clinics and help out where we can.
There are a few issues down at the Ammo jetty and there are many wanting it to be demolished. If we are to keep this wonderful land based fishing platform we must all work together to improve the image we send. We were down there not only to clean up and try and set a good example but to try and educate fishers as well.
These are a few of the messages we are trying to get across:

• Be responsible for your litter and dispose of it thoughtfully
• Respect other jetty users and your fellow fishers
• Treat all marine life with respect
• Bleed and process fish thoughtfully and clean up promptly
• If keeping your catch, dispatch it humanely and put it on ice quickly
• Limit your catch don’t catch your limit

If everyone does their part it makes it easier for all of us. We are doing our best to have more bins allocated to the jetty urgently and trying to ensure they are emptied more often. We will also work on some education material and signage.
We must all do our part to prove the jetty is worth keeping.

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Well said, you are doing all fishermen a great service

Thu, 2016-04-07 16:11

Thank you for the great and appreciated service you are providing to the public.

I'm sure that everyone who witnessed the carnage of last year at these fishing platforms shudders at the thought that it could be possibly happen again.

I think if something is not done to educate people that this sort of carry on is just not acceptable by the majority of thinking fishermen/women then the whole fishing community will suffer a major image problem.

Thank you RECFISHWEST.

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 Good on you, keep up the

Thu, 2016-04-07 19:26

 Good on you, keep up the good work ☺

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I'd say well done

Thu, 2016-04-07 14:08

 Lets hope you can achive your goals, theres not enough of these fishing platforms be a shame to lose this one.on yah

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Thu, 2016-04-07 14:31

 Good stuff Craig, were they getting anything down there?

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There were plenty of fishers

Thu, 2016-04-07 15:15

There were plenty of fishers but not many fish.

We did see a few small Bonito busting the bait schools but not much else.

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 on tuesday a large school

Thu, 2016-04-07 16:11

 on tuesday a large school swam past, there was people running fish to the carpark , getting them picked up by others in cars then running back to get more fish. I saw one gentleman with a pram and about 8-9 tails sticking out as he wheeled back to the carpark

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That is sad

Thu, 2016-04-07 16:38

 Greed takes over.pretty hard to police 24/7

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This sort of activity is unacceptable

Thu, 2016-04-07 16:44

This sort of activity is just blatant flouting of the law.

Fisheries must know, or should know the local spots where salmon are being caught in good numbers and do a bit of planning to be pro active and wave show the flag so as to speak.

Park the van with the fisheries logo on the side in a proximate place as close to the fishing area as possible let it be seen, and to be blunt intimidate these bastardy types who flout the bag limit laws.

I don't want to hear fisheries moan and groan about not having enough resources, what they don't have is a good operations manager.

When they spend time/money on seeking a prosecution over when a diver returns to a boat with crays and how long he has to measure and tail clip them is an example of lack of effective management of the compliance section people IMO.
When the law has been broken pursue the law breaker with all energy, when no law has been broken the officer/s who brought the charge to court need to under go re education on how to read and interoperate legislation and have their file annotated accordingly.

Members if we see something going on that is illegal do something about it.

Take a photo of the activity with your phone and send it to the local fisheries office for action and an info copy to the new head of fisheries for info, let him personally know what is being reported to his staff, and let them answer to him just what action they have taken and you want to know also.

The bodies on the ground (fisheries) go where they are told by their head shed, we need to impress the head shed this is where illegal activity is happening and we want something done about it. If there is no response to the information provided ask "why the hell not" you are employed to ensure people comply with your regulations.

That is why you are called compliance officers.

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Bag Limits

Thu, 2016-04-07 16:51

We found most people knew the rules and how many they were allowed.

If it was a school of Bonito then the bag limit is 8 fish per person, pretty generous.

Fisheries are aware that the jetty is very busy this time of year and are patrolling most days but as uncle says its hard to police 24/7.

It's up to all of us to make sure we do the right thing and lead by example.

 

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 the taste of fish is

Sat, 2016-04-09 10:29

 the taste of fish is subjective, not everyone has a boat to catch dhufish and snapper. each to their own to catch and eat what they can when the oppurtunity arises - aslong as the salmon are dispatched humanely having consideration for the aesthetics of a public jetty etc, and being within bag limits.

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I think its disgusting what goes on on that jetty.

Sat, 2016-04-09 13:03

Lets hope it doesnt spread.

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Right place right time

Sat, 2016-04-09 14:50

 This spot gets singled out as being super-terrible for heaps of things (this was where I learnt to fish as a kid, so I know what has happened there in the past) but I've witnessed ankle deep ichor blood and guts from Salmon Slaughters up and down the metro area, most memorably one time at North Mole with 200+ fish killed within 3/4 of an hour. 

Fisheries going down there is a step to educating people, and this is good although maybe not enough. I always wanted a stainless steel wash down / gutting station type thing on each side of the jetty at the beginning of it so people can clean their fish and not bleed em out on the floor next to everyone. 

As far as these types of people mentioned go, there are plenty of wealthy boat owners that flaunt the rules and have no consideration for the fishery or the future, and this is worse in my eyes because demersals especially are so much more vulnerable, and although Salmon get a hammering annually its a come and go event that doesnt last and once past the metro area I imagine the pressure on them would drop. 

I hope this spot gets improved and Fisheries ping the pricks who break the rules.  

 

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 The way I see it if people

Sun, 2016-04-10 18:18

 The way I see it if people leave mess and  treat the jetty like shit close it off and charge a fee to use it. They don't have the right to abuse the privelledge of the platform even if they are abiding by bag limits. Whos do they all think cleans up that mess, the good fairies I suppose.

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 Wider shot from today.

 

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Dumb Phuks, normal in some

Sun, 2016-04-10 19:41

Dumb Phuks, normal in some places around the world!!

although I've never tried I agree with ash, but if this was my target and I knew what I know I'd head down with a solid Eski and blocks of home made ice!!

Bleeding would need to be over the edge to avoid what we're seeing.

 

Personnell I used the jetty once or twice a year, take my young daughters down with bait catching rigs for Scalie mackerel, they love it!!

To hear of more regular visits, soursing of more bins, signage etc can only give hope the jetty stays for a long time yet. 

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 just gets worse, video has

Sun, 2016-04-10 20:13

 just gets worse, video has appeared of fish flapping around and others laying necked on concrete

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Sun, 2016-04-10 20:15

 Unfortunately some people tend to lose it with their goldrush mentality.

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Couple of suggestions

Sun, 2016-04-10 21:59

Put a sign up stating "no bleeding of fish on jetty surface."  Surely it could be considered littering and a fine imposed. Gee in parts of Europe when you set a carp free it's mandatory to spray its punctured lip with anesthetic on release. Surely a bit of education regarding bleeding the fish fully contained can only help.

The other disturbing comment was the lack of bins or bins being emptied on a more regular basis. I was heading to the boat in Freo 5:00am Sunday last week and saw street cleaners and guys on hoses going behind all the drunken degenerates that leave rubbish behind on the streets of Freo. Wouldn't hurt for local council to do the same here until they get a better system for regulating it. 

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I think the authorities need

Sun, 2016-04-10 22:13

I think the authorities need to clamp down and spend more time there, even though they cannot be there always - a greater presence will make a difference IMO. Do any of you take it upon yourselves to tell people around you doing the wrong thing to change their ways ? Doesn't mean you have to be a cunt or be aggressive, moreso compassionate and helpful if anything, if not ring the 1800 fishwatch number on the sly and get em to answer directly to them with their overkill still flapping as evidence. As uncle said, its IS a shame there aren't more places like this as it produces, and there is no good joining the defamation bandwagon just cos you have FB too.

What about all the Dhuies, Pinks, Baldies and Blackarses that dorks release incorrectly only to be seen floating off with not 1 witness ? "She'll be right, plenty more there", same shit different bucket. I just think (along with everyone else) that things need to change and you can help people do this.

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 I don't actually think the

Mon, 2016-04-11 07:26

 I don't actually think the issue here is the bag limits, it's more about the shit and blood left lying around. The ranger should be there handing out fines. I'm a bit mystified about your last comment on Dhuie etc? You've been there to see that happen? Or are you speculating that's what happens generally?

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 That's what I thought, so

Mon, 2016-04-11 14:52

 That's what I thought, so you've seen this happen on boats on a regular occurence? You know it happens or you're just guessing? I'd say just guessing.

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This sort of thing has to stop

Sun, 2016-04-10 23:56

Looking at the photos of the jetty just gets me so angry.

Just how long the council is going to put up with this sort of mess and carry on will be put to the test very shortly I fear.

I agree with the education approach to stopping this sort of barbarity taking place, however if people won't accept the soft approach and stop this type of thing then the people who break the possession limits should be caught by fisheries and have the book thrown at them.

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 Saw the Video on Facebook

Mon, 2016-04-11 00:26

 Saw the Video on Facebook and the enlarge pics on here.

At first glance,being Asian, Is it a Wet Market for selling Fish, in a Third world country?

Had to rub my eyes, F**k

 

Someone should have put a Floor Wet Sign, to infuriate the fishers.

 

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Blows me away

Mon, 2016-04-11 05:28

 Seeing this type of shit I don't even know where the ammo jetty is and have no interest in going there after seeing the pics looks like the same sort of people who can't read the crabbing rules and regs are now chasing the salmon . Spot the Aussie .

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Mon, 2016-04-11 12:27

 It was definately a case of spot the Aussie down there this morning.

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 There was plenty of Aussies

Mon, 2016-04-11 07:10

 There was plenty of Aussies there mate.

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Bucket

Mon, 2016-04-11 07:51

Maybe if there was a mandatory bucket rule or something.

  • No bucket no fishing.
  • Fish must be bled in a bucket.

People could then wash their catch and bucket near the shore before heading home. Salmon are bloody fish so it is going to look bad if they are bled on the deck.

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 Same ole every year , shock

Mon, 2016-04-11 08:41

 Same ole every year , shock horror look there’s some fish blood on the deck and by jingo some don’t look to be native aussies, so quick let’s take a pic before it rains and put it on social media and partake in bagging them out by casting aspersions on the lot of them .

 
It’s a large congregation of fishos catching and bleeding salmon in one place obviously there’s going to be a bit of blood around and if you don’t want the negative reaction from non fisho greeny types why promote it for them ?
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But, if anyone is taking more than their 4 they should be pinged.

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agree.

Mon, 2016-04-11 15:59

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Agree

Mon, 2016-04-11 19:15

The pics are ugly they also can't just wash all that blood in to the water as there's plenty swimmers there so need some sort bucket rule/ blood disposal sorted

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Cleaning station

Mon, 2016-04-11 10:22

 At the very least is necessary here for a "no excuses position"   There is a processing unit down at Albany that is pretty amazing. When involved with SWRFAC we wanted a couple at well used locations in the South West but it never got off the ground.  They should be located at Ramps as well. Hopefully some rain will sort this sorry mess out. Just goes to show that some people are really basic animals that don't care.  A strong Compliance presence and some sacraficial lambs would be extremely useful coupled with an education process.  The whole situation goes against my grain as a rec fisher who cares about our resource. 

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Well said

Mon, 2016-04-11 22:25

I'm sure you are saying what a lot of fishos are thinking.

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 Surely it doesn't cost and

Mon, 2016-04-11 10:50

 Surely it doesn't cost and arm and a leg to set one up. Same with a few signs so no one can say they didn't know the rules or appropriate ways to behave. 

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I agree

Mon, 2016-04-11 14:38

 If it was provided at least then some people would access it. . Blood and other fluids drain back into the water. .  Or wherever you want. 

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Seeing Red

Mon, 2016-04-11 16:27

Nothing like a bit of blood to get folks seeing red. Visually impacting evoking a strong emotional response, but this annual occurrence would have little to no impact on the Salmon fishery stocks. The blood that some leave behind will wash off with the rains and the majority will do the right thing with their rubbish.

Most will do the right thing when it comes to bag limits.
For those who don't look after their catch is nobody's concern, if they are taking their bag limit only, then they can do what they like with their catch.

I am not a Salmon fisho, don't rate them as table fare so I leave them alone. Each to their own.

I do believe that the salmon run is a good financial shot in the arm for the Tackle shops who do need support in a tough market.

Squid ink squirted all over land based platforms and rocks doesn't generate the same response from the angling community.

Humanely killing your catch requires education, and hopefully the visits from Fisheries and Recfishwest will pass on this knowledge to the uneducated.