Burley

 been watching fishing wa old episodes and saw Steve making his own burley.he used pollard, oil, water and on the day mixed maggots with it. So I went to the shop today and bought 1 litre of tuna oil, a bucket, 2kg of pollard, obviously have water here at home and can't find any frozen maggots, does anybody know where I can get maggots from?

anyway the main question is should I add anything else to the mix? Haven't made any yet so am pen to suggestions. I have seen some peo use cat biscuits which I can get from city farmers so I might get some tomorrow.

it will be burley for herring, gardies etc. beach species but not snapper and the big stuff

lachie

 

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 chicken pellets

Mon, 2014-10-06 19:04

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 Wouldn't bother with the

Mon, 2014-10-06 19:25

 Wouldn't bother with the maggots unless you're targeting herring or gar dies and using maggots as bait... Even then I wouldn't waste them in the burley. As soon as they see maggots on a hook they'll be all over it.

if you're targeting anything else it's not worth it.

also, if you want the burley to stay on the blob/cage longer add a bit of flour. Say 1 part flour to 9 parts pollard?

You won't look back after making your own. So much cheaper and better

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Burley for snapper...

Mon, 2014-10-06 19:32

2kg pilchards
1kg pellets
1 litre tuna oil
bread torn up into pieces.... Munch all together

Freeze in 1L size portions (either in glad bags or 1L milk cartons with the top cut off). Hang a scaler bag overboard to dispense.

If you're land based and chasing herring and skippy use pollard and oil (not pilchards and pellets) because your pollard will create more of a slick on top of the water rather than sink like pellets and munched up pilchards will :)

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Burley - Make Your Own

Mon, 2014-10-06 19:39

Lachie,

If you use the search engine you will find lots of useful advice.  I wrote a post about what I do a while ago and it can be found at:

http://fishwrecked.com/forum/burley-recipe-and-technique

Not saying that this is best for your application, but burley like this certainly works for me.  Worth reading what others do as well.

Good luck.

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What are you targeting?

Mon, 2014-10-06 20:00

Firstly, I find that burley only really helps to attract B&B species LB - unless I am specifically targeting something or having a really bad day I use very little these days.

When making your burley - you really need to engineer it around your target species. Whiting are primarily bottom feeders, so any form of sinking burley will work well for them. Herring & Gardies are top feeders - so something that floats or sinks slowly is going to work best for them.

In the past I've used the following recipe with great success and it fills a 10l bucket.

1l tuna oil (or even 2l)

Aniseed Oil/Extract

Cat Biscuits (aruond 1kg)

Chook Pellets - as required

Pollard - as required

 

Method:

- Add cat biscuits and a few handfuls of pellets to bucket.

- Add the tuna oil

- Add some boiling hot water (really boiling...), around 5-6 cups.

- Put the lid on the bucket and forget about it for a few hours.

- When you come back, the biscuits and pellets should have soaked up all the water/oil. If will be mushy, but with some solid lumps still.

- Get the potato masher out and mix it all up - you should end up with a bit of a mix of larger chunks, medium chunks and fine granules or burley. If the mixture is very sloppy, add a tiny bit of pollard while you mash.

- For bonus points, leave dirty masher in kitchen sink until wife finds it.

- Add aniseed oil and progressively add pollard

- Keep mixing by hand, adding pollard until you get the desired texture. I find it good to use a couple of buckets for this stage, so you can right down to the bottom of the mix.

 

What you end up with a burley that has some floating chunks (cat biscuits), smaller sinking chunks (pellets) and fine stuff that will disperse nicely in water. If chasing herring, I find burleying up and then adding a little oil directly to the surface of the water works like a charm.

The burley will keep for a month or two if it is not too hot...but I've used it mouldy and the fish don't complain. I don't recommend adding wet ingredients like pillys or cat food unless you intend to use it all up in one hit or freeze the burley. I learnt the hard way by leaving "cat food burley" in the shed one summer.... ;-)

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 Thanks that is great help

Mon, 2014-10-06 21:35

 Thanks that is great help

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One other tip lauchie

Tue, 2014-10-07 12:33

Be careful where and how much burley you use.

There are certain beaches I will not use burley to attract fish, because i spend the next 2 hours of my fishing time tackling stingrays.

Burley has it's place, but use it sparingly.

Fish gutters / structure first without burley, only adding some interest if the action is a little dead. That will keep the magic carpet rides to a minimum.

If fishing top water for Herring, then burley up, they love it. Skippy too if fishing small baits. Bottom fishing for tailor with a mulie, go easy (see above).

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 Haha magic carpet rides,

Tue, 2014-10-07 13:47

 Haha magic carpet rides, love it!

But a really good tip there, stingrays become a real pain in the arse if you burley up too much, even more so on lighter tackle as you'll lose a fair bit of gear to them.

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Burley

Tue, 2014-10-07 12:48

Chook pellets always work for me! Mixing sand in with pollard, tuna oil and fish guts etc.. helps !! 

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 look good?

Tue, 2014-10-07 19:26

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 Looks like my dunny bowl

Tue, 2014-10-07 20:13

 Looks like my dunny bowl after getting back from the Red Turban restaurant .. 

 
What mix did you go with Lachie any secret ingredients ?..  sometimes , I’ll throw in a dash of thai fish sauce for good measure gets a bit whiffy though.. let us know how it goes  
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 The one that buschy put up.

Tue, 2014-10-07 20:45

 The one that buschy put up. It smells really bad. I think I put to much aniseed oil in. I put 25ml and I can smell it clearly.

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I might complain if the wife served it up...

Thu, 2014-10-09 20:44

But otherwise looks as I would expect....as you introduce the pollard the consistency will change and you can make it as wet or dry as you like. How did it come out? Yes - it will smell, but it's great stuff.

The other guys all have great points - as I said I use burley rarely these days unless I am targeting B&B only....and it is a good idea to start 'natural' and see what is on the bite first.

 

EDIT: I should mention, that raw mix before you add pollard is basically a concentrate. In the past I have taken some out & mixed with flour then frozen to make a dough for targeting buffies or mullet. 

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 It came out with lots of

Thu, 2014-10-09 21:13

 It came out with lots of chunky cat biscuits, about 2mm cubed bits of pollard and then the the slimy stuff. Exactly how it should be . Smells not see good but it probably smells beautiful to the herring. Going to Lancelin jetty tomorrow and will chuck some in and hope for some herring.

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wont even need burley

Wed, 2014-12-31 15:02

for lancelin, the jetty produces herring at night - only fish for these for live bait.
I think if you burley up a bit the rays will come in a lot quicker than what they always do (always get a ray) .. hold on!

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Chicken Fat

Tue, 2014-10-07 21:56

One of the best ingredients I have found is chicken fat from one of the fast food chook shops!

Once soaked into the pellets/pollard or what ever it gives a good oil slick at all levels.

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Just

Wed, 2014-10-08 08:49

bring me along fellas hahahahah best burly ever especially after eating twisties hahahaha

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Free burley

Wed, 2014-10-08 10:21

Some of the best free burley you can get is the little bits of batter that the fish chops shops scoop out of their cooking oil, ask at your local fish and chip shop, most will gladly hand over a big box full of the stuff, i have had the water boiling at the back of the boat with herring, just mind out for the seagulls they love the stuff as well.

 

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So true Bruzoandnicko

Fri, 2014-10-10 08:21

One of my hubbies fathers favourite tricks, yes the water was boiling with herring hahahah didn't need bait, just hook them.

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Wed, 2014-10-08 14:24

 Don't overdo the aniseed if you don't want your fish to taste of it, it permeates the flesh real quick and makes the fish taste of aniseed, and a yes on the fish and chip scraps, we used to call it crackling. Herring would come to the boil over that.

 

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gillyl on the money

Thu, 2014-10-09 20:58

you can not beat chook pellets,pinks love it,dhues, kgs, top cheap burley sinks well I soak mine in fish oil ,all I have always used.10 kilo for 12 bucks cant beat it.still use the odd cube of fish to

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two old favourite recipes I

Thu, 2014-10-09 21:58

two old favourite recipes I use are as below
one is floating for herring , gardies , anything on top

second is for bottom dwellers especially pinkies and skippy in under 20 metres , any deeper and I don't bother with burley

so top floating is a mix of dry bread crumbs and old deepfryer cooking oil , mix it together until the breadcrumbs are just moist, not wet it should be crumbly
if im beach fishing ill add a few handfuls of clean white sand as well to thin it out but the oil still soaks into it

both ingredients can be carried around with you in car or boat until you want to mix a bit up
this mix will bring in herring like nothing else, it floats on top , so it drift slicks out quickly , seagulls can hardly see it so they don't dive on the breadcrumbs, its almost invisible to them , herring will boil in it , but it doesn't fill them up too quick so they stay on the bite for ages &a little bit goes along way , it keeps for ages if out of the sunlight as well , so you can use it over several trips as well

second one is sinking burley
chook pellets, minced cray heads/crab shells , few mulies , old deep fryer oil again , few boiled spuds mashed up & mix it all together you can then freeze it in 2 litre icream containers , take em out when you go and stick in your burley muncher at the back of the boat,

the other thing I was shown years ago at shark bay by an old hand was to chop up our fish frames with a tomahawk into small pieces about the sixe of 10c pieces,bones and all !!!

you do this after filleting, get small tomahawk sit down with a block of wood in front of you and chop your frames up ,bit messy so wear a plastic fileting apron or old shirt !!! keep it all in a bucket and use it to chum up over the side once your at anchor , just a small trickle of it every few mins in to your burley drift

this works very well

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Fri, 2014-10-10 18:20

 I can almost smell that bottom one from here Mike.

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 I went to Lancelin today and

Fri, 2014-10-10 18:29

 I went to Lancelin today and fished off the jetty. The burley works a treat! The herring schools were about 20 meters away so I put the burley straight down and it kept the blowies busy the whole time! So I was constantly getting herring. I was using it in the reverse of what burley should do but at least it was helping significantly to get proper eating fishq

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 Yeah, the blowies can get so

Fri, 2014-10-10 19:01

 Yeah, the blowies can get so thick in some places that we sometimes hang a sack of meat shavings or fish frames off the jetty to keep them occupied

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hahaha

Wed, 2014-12-31 14:19

Just read this but had a good chuckle...my recipe is the "anti-burley" :-) Glad it helped you get into a few fish Lachie. 

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Buy Chook carcasses, pollard,

Wed, 2014-12-31 15:42

Buy Chook carcasses, pollard, old bread and fish and chip drippins and any fish guts/ carcasses.
Get a cheap garden mulcher and a proper dust bin.
Switch on mulcher and place bin, then chuck the carcasses and other stuff through the mulcher!
fill into cut of milk bottles and freeze!
Clean mulcher and your self!
Great fun if you like the ruff stuff!

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