Clever ideas from NZ

I’m over in NZ for a few days visiting, and each time I come over here I manage to spot something (without trying) that tells there are some clever people still here.

Have a look at the picture, think about how many posts go up here about the rules.

Some with no answer, some stupid, some contentious etc

I would contend that if Fisheries cannot answer the question in a short text then either

1/ the rules are too complicated

2/ Fisheries don’t know

3/ Fisheries are unwilling to provide a binding answer, and hence should not be able to later decide otherwise in retrospect.

You should be able to text location, fish and get a binding answer in a timely fashion.

If Fisheries are unable to provide a response in say 8hrs? then obviously you should be able to hold that up later as a Defense or mitigation.

 

 

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 damn good idea . 

Mon, 2019-08-12 17:43

 damn good idea . 

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 Recfishwest app solves your

Mon, 2019-08-12 18:50

 Recfishwest app solves your problem.

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Good but it’s just an

Mon, 2019-08-12 19:05

Good but it’s just an interpretation.

Non binding 

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Mon, 2019-08-12 18:53

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Whoa , Thats common sense.

Mon, 2019-08-12 18:57

 No good peddling that stuff around here mate , You going to have fisheries pushing the big red button and putting the tinfoil hats on.

 We should ( given the penaltys)  be able to run rules , and questions past every fisheries officer in the state and get the same answer.

 No grey areas , no personnel  take on things , no ,Im not sure , so I will book you and work it out in court later stuff.

 Yes even with the traffic act or criminal law there are always things to be questioned or tested, thats why courts exsist , but surely fishing law is , or could be 

 less complicated and more user friendly .

 To realize just how complicated they are , a few years back I had a couple of guys in work , one filipino and one N.Z guy whom are both newish to fishing in WA

 ask me to help inform them about all the rules for fishing here. ( boat, beach , crab , squid , the lot) 

 I tell you we spent a few lunchtimes going around in circles discussing RBL,s ,  , lic req , bag limits , size limits , boat limits, zone rules , equipment rules , bans , 

 etc etc etc.   ( yes the recfish app works well for the very basic limits and rules)

 

 

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No complaints..

Mon, 2019-08-12 18:55

no complaints here on fisheries in wa .. if

you play the game all good. If you do honestly

stuff up ?? They will be fair within in there

boundaries .. cheers vic !!  

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best check

Mon, 2019-08-12 19:09

Best check with Bret Carter on that... 

Or Mr Palmer

http://www.hcourt.gov.au/assets/publications/judgment-summaries/2004/hca30-2004-06-16.pdf

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Nailed it

Tue, 2019-08-13 08:43

 Rob

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Lost everything

Tue, 2019-08-13 18:23

 Poor bastard lost everything

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Does the app not have size

Mon, 2019-08-12 19:12

Does the app not have size and bag limit info or does it require mobile data so doesn't work everywhere that sms will?

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Loaded.

Mon, 2019-08-12 21:48

 nah once the app is downloaded to phone its there, no serv req , its kinda like a summary of the old rec fish guide phamplet they used to put out.

 discontinued last year. 

 

 

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They must still be rocking

Tue, 2019-08-13 08:31

They must still be rocking Nokia 5210s in NZ

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Seems like NZ fisheries arent

Mon, 2019-08-12 19:20

Seems like NZ fisheries arent out to make a business out of the fisheries over there. (making money)

Howdy Pirate guess you havent dealt with fisheries much...guilty until proven innocent imo.

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They must me serious about

Mon, 2019-08-12 20:32

They must me serious about conservation and not just issuing infringements 

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Da pirate

Tue, 2019-08-13 06:15

It’s not even Friday funnies yet.

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Looks like you're at the base of Mt Maunganui

Tue, 2019-08-13 16:35

Nice spot.  I lived in Tauranga prior to immigrating to Oz in 1980.  I used to be a weekend deckie on the day charter boat MV Manutere which I believe still operates out of Tauranga / Mt.  Many good memories fishing around Motiti and Mayor Islands.

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yep

Tue, 2019-08-13 16:49

Ha yes I am Alan, visiting my dear old Ma and 3 brothers for a few days.

Back Friday. 

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The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.

Everyone's just winging it.