Electric vehicles
Submitted by crasny1 on Wed, 2019-08-07 07:33
Hi all
Anyone on here have or has an interest in any EV's. Don't think for us remote Fisho's anything will ever surpass a ICE 4x4 but I have been eyeing off a Tesla Model 3 but not sure yet about committing.
Any one else thinking around these lines.
Neels
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BigJevans
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These are worth keeping an eye on
https://www.drive.com.au/news/rivian-electric-ute-confirmed-for-australia-121205
dodgy
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I’ll buy one of those rivians
I’ll buy one of those rivians if the real world specs get close to their claimed figures.
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Billcollector
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Stick to your cruiser lol. no
Stick to your cruiser lol. no charge stations in the middle of the outback.
One electric motor per wheel, good for creek crossings?
dodgy
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Depends how often you really
Depends how often you really want to go out into the outback. You’re local arb will be stocking long range batteries right alongside their fuel tanks before you know it.
Electric motors can be sealed and run underwater no problems.
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Jackfrost80
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Call me a cynic but isn't
Call me a cynic but isn't going to an electric the same as an alcoholic substituting cask wine for bourbon?
Still have to mine the materials for and manufacture the batteries and then have to mine and burn the coal to power the car unless you're home during the day and can charge the car with your home solar.
I remain skeptical about the environmental benefits until they become self charging.
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D_d_001
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while we are still reliant
while we are still reliant on coal yes .......................but wouldn't you like to go 0-100kmph in 3 seconds?
resurgence
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Independent of power source
The advantage is that once the infrastructure is established you have decoupled the end use from the energy source. The electricity can be generated from any source in the future - fossil, solar, nuclear or whatever else is discovered.
Additionally, fixed power stations are far more efficient in utilising the contained energy in fossil fuels than a vehicle engine ever will be, so there is a gain even if the fuel source is unchanged.
pelagicyachts
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one of my mates just bought a
one of my mates just bought a Volvo plug in hybrid for his wife, it was frighteningly expensive but great on fuel... however, their power bill has doubled - and guess where most of our power comes from - coal......... winning
dodgy
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Well it’s really transferring
Well it’s really transferring paying at the bowser to paying an electrical provider.
Im think it will be quite a few years until there are much in the way of environmental benefits. New tech will come quickly once the demand is there and more manufacturers throw money at it.
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piston broke
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Re , Big Jevans above
“We have really focused on the off-road capability of these vehicles,” he said. “We have 14-inches (350mm) of dynamic ground clearance, we have a structural underbody, we have all-time all-wheel drive so we can go up 45-degree inlines, and we can accelerate from zero to 60mph (98km/h) in 3.0 seconds. He added: “I can tow 10,000-pounds (4500kg). I’ve got a tent that I can throw onto the back of the truck, I’ve got 400-miles (640km) of range, I’ve got all-time all-wheel drive so I can do anything another vehicle can do, and then some. Sounds good
I wonder how long the recharge takes?
All for US $74 000
Jackfrost80
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Just hook her up at the
Just hook her up at the Paraburdoo servo and grab a cheese sausage or 50 while you wait piston
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dodgy
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Nothing I could see listed
Nothing I could see listed for Para but Nanutarra, Tom Price and Auski all have 3 phase charging points listed so no issues with a little trip planning.
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Jackfrost80
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Much to do in Auski while you
Much to do in Auski while you wait half a day for your ute to recharge?
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dodgy
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Not heaps. Few backpackers to
Not heaps. Few backpackers to look at. They do a good pizza if you ask nicely though.
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Dale
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Too quiet for mine.
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Swompa
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We have a couple through
We have a couple through work. First I saw the Nissan Leaf which has a range of 100 odd km on a full charge unless you wish to accelerate. Heavy foot (like very heavy) to get up to speed on the freeway takes that down to 80. Great little car as a shopping cart. We have a power point in Kwinana if we have visitors from the city doing the 60km trip.
We also have a Renault something. 300km range. It has a bit more road noise but equally comfortable car, though when comparing to my 9 year old beach / bush Navara, most things are comfortable.
It is certainly odd to jump into the car, press the button and have no noise. Only way you know it's on I see the computer on the dash is lit up.
crasny1
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Thanks for comments
Yes I have been looking at the Drive site etc.
And the clip of the grandson taking his 90 odd yr old grandfather for a spin in a Tesla Model S was hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Nw6xp0NfM.
I am a little with Jack here in that even with the Rivian claiming all those off road perks, I would never feel comfortable going bush in an electric (yet). Fishing at Whitehills etc - maybe!
But for the everyday commute I suspect this is the future. Not for everyone yet due to the price disparity between same ICE and Electric eg Hyundai Kona Highlander ~$40K ICE,64K Electric!!!!
Lot of fuel in 24K and would take years to break even unless you power from all your own sources.
Also like the idea that you can use the Nissan Leaf battery as a Power source for your house instead of a Powerwall etc.
I think things will change.
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dodgy
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Will sure be interesting to
Will sure be interesting to see the advances in battery technology that come in the next few years.
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Faulkner Family
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think you would need a good
think you would need a good jenny and enough fuel to run it so you can charge up.
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BigJevans
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For commuting I'd love one of these
I'd agree with the comments above, for the commute I think it will be a relatively easy transition into EV's. For the weekend or long drives I think it has some way to come before it can really take over the whole market.
Speaking of commuting though I'd love one of these! Full electric motorbikes that have the range and the charging times to do most peoples commutes.
https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/
pelagicyachts
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Its definitely coming, but as
Its definitely coming, but as others have said the cost will have to come down before its a no brainer -
I was in Shenzen (China) a few months back and electric is everywhere - not so much cars but bikes, and they modify them into 3 wheelers so they are like a bike with a tray back - most I assume are couriers or work "bikes" but I nearly got hit by one as they are quite fast, on the footpaths and very quiet!.
Hong Kong is the same except mostly full of tesla's - the aussie bogans in HK have a bmw 3 series (ie petrol engine!) :-)
Faulkner Family
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i feel there is a long way
i feel there is a long way to go with the electric cars before you could comfortably go away on any trips with them. maybe a generator hooked up to the wheels so its charging as you go.
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scuttlebutt
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I wouldn't be concerned about
I wouldn't be concerned about water crossings in an electric 4x4. I've got a minn-kota on my boat that only works in water☺
I use an electric bike for commuting. Converted my standard bike with a kit off the net. Brilliant bit of gear and worked out it will pay for itself in 1 year on fuel savings alone.