Cockburn Sound GT

apparently a diver diving from the shore has speared a fair sized GT.  

 

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 if there was one there why

Thu, 2018-03-08 19:00

 if there was one there why spear it. would be interesting to see if it was one tho

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Is the link

Thu, 2018-03-08 19:26

is the link l attached working

 

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GT

Thu, 2018-03-08 19:20

 Few photos on FB, screen shooter them for a mate but can’t seem to post photos in comments!

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Wtf!!

Thu, 2018-03-08 19:55

 Is that legit? 

If so, stickbaits and pe5 in the sound it is then! 

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To be honest

Thu, 2018-03-08 20:03

 not sure I would have shot it, given how much of a rare find that would be in metro waters, but each to their own. 

Imagine the prospects of catching Australian salmon, mackerel, gummies and gt’s all at the same time. Awesome!!

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Not much

Fri, 2018-03-09 06:48

Fresh blood. Anything possible now days. Would have hammered on straight hook.

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That shits me. What a

Fri, 2018-03-09 07:06

That shits me. What a fucktard.

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Why is he a fkhead?

Fri, 2018-03-09 12:57

Why is he a fkhead?

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 Each to their own sport,

Fri, 2018-03-09 07:12

 Each to their own sport, legal catch and a prized catch for a spero. I read it had been filleted for eating.

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 Wonder if it was part of a

Fri, 2018-03-09 07:23

 Wonder if it was part of a school or just lost and lonely. Very interesting capture if legit.

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Looks like you can catch anything in the sound

Fri, 2018-03-09 07:28

Except Crabs  

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 It’s bullshit ,look at the

Fri, 2018-03-09 07:31

 It’s bullshit ,look at the eyes and gills all rotten.no way a fresh fish kill would look like that.

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 Yeah it looks sunbaked to me

Fri, 2018-03-09 13:15

 Yeah it looks sunbaked to me

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 you are both wrong   :) 

Fri, 2018-03-09 20:48

 you are both wrong   :) 

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 It’s bullshit ,look at the

Fri, 2018-03-09 07:31

 Double entry.

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Who even spears in the sound?

Fri, 2018-03-09 08:45

Who even spears in the sound?

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I was more thinking

Fri, 2018-03-09 12:56

I was more thinking that...

What is the target when spearing there? Blowies or is this where the mackies rock up?

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 Great whites

Fri, 2018-03-09 20:10

 Great whites

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tailor, bream,

Fri, 2018-03-09 20:49

tailor, bream, flathead/flounder, occkies, snapper, mulloway, etc 

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 Fresh from a 12 hr drive

Fri, 2018-03-09 13:47

 Fresh from a 12 hr drive back from exmouth on the boat floor

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Not sure if real...but

Fri, 2018-03-09 13:48

But...there does appear to be dripped blood on the sand below its mouth. Or is that my cateracts playing up. 

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Dry hair

Fri, 2018-03-09 14:15

 Looks suspect. His hair is ultra dry , whilst his wettie has a few wet patches doesn’t seem too kosher . Land based or boat ? . 

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Same fish. Found it on

Fri, 2018-03-09 17:12

Same fish. Found it on facebook, looks a bit fresher.

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Fri, 2018-03-09 20:46

 My photo from my backyard - notice my webers in the corner   :) 

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 reminds me of the time a

Fri, 2018-03-09 17:22

 reminds me of the time a kayak fisho claimed to head out and got a dolly from the yak, only to find the exact same pic on a site over in the U S  

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Same fish ,same hole from straight hook

Fri, 2018-03-09 17:59

Drag lines in sand bit over the top . Sad

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 Why? 

Fri, 2018-03-09 20:50

 Why? 

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Legit. Many comments in the

Fri, 2018-03-09 18:29

Legit. Many comments in the original posts from people that have sighted a similar sized GT in the same area over the last 3 weeks, swimming around jetties and floating pontoons, one comment even says "i swear this is the fish i jumped on from the pontoon on Australia day."
No not a usual free diving spot unless diving for mussels, but going by other comments in the post, it was sighted a few hours earlier at the grain terminal, possibly by a worker, spearos were notified and within a few hours the fish was dead.
There are a few spearos on here from the WA Undersea club that would know finer details but i believe that is the general jist of things

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 if legit you gotta

Fri, 2018-03-09 18:46

 if legit you gotta understand the sceptics. very hard to believe one is down this way

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Few golden trevally were

Fri, 2018-03-09 18:58

Few golden trevally were caught about 2 months ago, one on jazz and one landbased at south mole just 1 day apart, jazz also got a coral trout around the same time. A number of cobia have been caught in the sound just in the last week or so. Im still waiting on my surprise northern capture other than a mackie, a nice trevally would be nice!

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Skeptics

Fri, 2018-03-09 22:13

Skeptics need to pull back Russ.

Gets really annoying when people constantly play the no way game or claim photoshop as a first step.

Is no wonder peole dont share as much these days.

Is just like everyone saying the Bluewater report on macks being caught was BS but in reality it was true if you knew the right people.

Good luck to the guy. Great effort abd dont blame him for taking a once in a lifetime shot

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 So we're not allowed to

Sat, 2018-03-10 06:56

 So we're not allowed to question legitimacy then? It pisses me off when pics are posted like this with no story or background info. It's an extraordinary fish taken in place not normally seen. I think we have a right to be sceptical. No problem with his capture Kudos to him and glad to hear it didn't go to waste. 

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To be fair the person who

Sat, 2018-03-10 10:50

To be fair the person who shot the fish didnt post it on here and most likely not a member to tell us the story of how it went down. Not really sure what More there is to explain anyway

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Auto

Sat, 2018-03-10 14:59

It is that it is the auto response for everyone to jump on the bandwagon these days and call bullshit on everything that is posted unless it is from their little purple circle.

I would be much happier to see people as for more details etc if they arent sure rather than go down the bullshit path with no knowledge. 

There are a number of people that have know about this fish/fishes for a while so it was always legit and would have been easily confirmed if the question was asked. 

This wasnt posted by the guy who shot it and more as an FYI so was always unlikely to have a story to go with it.

 

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 Seems people who had all the

Sat, 2018-03-10 15:07

 Seems people who had all the info and answers for this held onto it while the shit storm brewed. Like I said we are all entitled to an opinion wrong or right. And I haven't seen one so called bullshit post on the thread I created about the 62kg Bass as I did my homework on that to make sure it was legit. I see plenty of photshopped pics on FB that look the business until someone usually fesses up. Say form my old man, believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see. Seems to become more true in the days of technology. 

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Beau

Fri, 2018-03-09 19:11

Look where hole is bud. Lack of blood. Drag marks in sand ,over done .Sand all over wetty. Fake . Other post real . Gero fish. 100 percent not rocko. Unless diver shot in same place. Eyes coved in sand on fish. ( can always tell how fresh fish is by eyes). No blood in sand . Always blood. Lol. If it's true great catch . For sure.

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 Spearo's bleed fish in the

Fri, 2018-03-09 20:52

 Spearo's bleed fish in the water - video coming soon that will show free swimming GT and the grain terminal 

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Not sure about you but i

Fri, 2018-03-09 20:15

Not sure about you but i always like to wash off any blood before photos of my fish. Photo in backyard is from last night in rockingham, getting weighed on WA Undersea Club scales, same fish same person holding fish. Not sure which other post you are saying is real.
I 100% believe speared in rockingham. Like i said, reported on Facebook of GT sighting in rockingham few weeks ago

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 A few FACTS for you

Fri, 2018-03-09 20:45

 A few FACTS for you all. 

  • Lewk is a local school teacher, after work on Thursday he went for a swim to the grain terminal at around 4pm. He would often shoot tailor and bream there
  • He saw the GT, couldnt believe his eyes, and like most fishermen, decided to take the fish. The fish was in the extreme shallows, it had 3-4 blowies in its mouth and appeared to be patrolling the shallows eating resting blowies
  • The fish put up a great fiight and bent his spear
  • A couple hours later Lewk reached out to me and wanted to use the WAUC scales that are at my place to weigh his catch, I too live in Rockingham 
  • Lewk came over and told me the whole story, we weighed the fish, 26.20kgs and I took some photos of him with the fish
  • Lewk went home to fillet the fish, he planned to eat some of the GT and share the rest amongst his friends and family
  • GT is a prized table fish in SE Asia and Hawaii - Lewk is not a fish snob 
  • The GT is a legal fish as per fisheries guidelines, one GT out of the eco system wont see it collapse. This is a fish of a lifetime for him and will be talked about for many years. A GT in Rockingham was a once off fluke and I doubt will ever happen again. 

If you still dont believe the above, Lewk will upload a video soon, showing the fish swimming, showing the grain terminal in the background also.

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Thats the slap down.

Sat, 2018-03-10 08:47

 Well played Sir , let the chatter go wild , hold your hand close , then hit them with 4 aces!

 I must be a optimist or dumb , cause whenever i see a fish photo out of the ordinary , I find reasons to believe it is true first ,

 If im wrong later , well no harm , its a reflection on poster, not on my naivety.

 Having seen and caught some pretty lost fish over the years , i tend to believe fish view boundarys that exsist in our minds and

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No doubt its validity..

Sat, 2018-03-10 09:51

In my younger days I would dive that area on a regular basis. Pylons made good photos too, esp at night.

You say he got it at the grain terminal.   He must have got out and walked a good km and more north as north of the grain terminal are several small groynes, kwinana jetty then the Qube bulk cargo jetty. 

Can't see those in the background.  

 

That is what is puzzling me that they are not in the background.

 

The resolution of the photo is poor.  Rather than the video would love to see other photos.  Because all fishos don't just take one photo of their catch.

 

 

Not that we fully doubt the validity but you can understand the reasons why.

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Have another look, he is

Sat, 2018-03-10 10:53

Have another look, he is standing where the grain terminal jetty meets the shore

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Love the way you left out a

Sat, 2018-03-10 17:01

Love the way you left out a few critical details. Like the fact that the presence of this fish has been pretty well known for the last 3 weeks & that several people had been out swimming with it, including families with children. Like the fact that a call went out to WAUC from workers at the grain terminal alerting the spearos to it's presence. So Lewk knew exactly what he was out there to shoot. Or the fact that it took just a couple of hours from the time the alert went out to the time it was on the end of his spear. So he knew what it was, where it was & that he was likely to be able to get close to it well before he got anywhere near the water. This fucking muppet was effectively shooting fish in a barrel. Some accomplishment.

I guess other people getting to enjoy the presence of a fish they wouldn't normally get to see wasn't as important to this dickhead as it was for him to get his personal glory. He made a decision to kill the GT before he ever got anywhere near the water. Not a great look for the spearing community to show that within just a couple of hours they will have killed something others had been enjoying just so they can say they did it. Yeah, he's a real hero alright. Fucking selfish scum is more like it. & before you give the predictable abusive reply, telling me what a cockhead I am: I don't give a fuck, he's a selfish piece of shit that should of left it be for others to enjoy. If he wanted a GT, I'm sure he could come up with a few hundred for fuel & go get one where there's heaps & where it would have been an actual challenge.

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Agreed..

Sat, 2018-03-10 19:39

 Pretty short sighted - would have loved to see more videos of him swimming around with it, then he would have probably made local news for all the right reasons, who knows maybe the GT could have become a local. A rare sight like this doesnt need a spear put in it - legal or not. Reckon he probably could have hand fed it.

 

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 im with beau if i didnt

Fri, 2018-03-09 20:46

 im with beau

 if i didnt catch it then it cant be true....

 it was only a matter of time till a GT was caught in perth waters 

 

 ....EDIT....  looks like your questions have been answered 

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Anything possible

Fri, 2018-03-09 20:58

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 Very cool if real ! I think

Fri, 2018-03-09 21:54

 Very cool if real ! I think maybe in 50 - 100 years captures of all species nth & sth with have new found tales of their own, location wise. Pure ecstacy to catch a fish like that anywhere, anytime, period.  Looking forward to the vid ! 

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Blowies

Fri, 2018-03-09 22:48

If it was eating blowies lets hope a bucketload more come down....haha

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 Id rather have seen a vid of

Sat, 2018-03-10 07:09

 Id rather have seen a vid of it cruising around, and then see every man and his dog go down there trying to catch it. But if i was him im sure i would've shot it to. Would fisheries be keen on studying the frame/head to see if there was any signs of it being sick or if there someway of seeing how longs its been hangin around?

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Sat, 2018-03-10 07:11

 That’s a good idea Rob, but I doubt that would have happened.

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 If he didn’t shoot it,

Sat, 2018-03-10 07:42

 If he didn’t shoot it, noeone would of ever believed him.. definetly hasn’t gone to waste - and let’s be honest, they aren’t exactly endangered when you look at the state in general. I say good on him, he’s out there having a crack while all the idiots are typing criticism. Far better than pulling up an undersize dhu from 50m

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Tall poppy syndrome is alive

Sat, 2018-03-10 09:25

Tall poppy syndrome is alive and well. 

Just because you don’t have the skill, determination, funds whatever to chase large trophy size fish doesn’t entitle you to immediately bag someone who does. 

Just because you don’t see marlin and gt’s while you are fishing for bream in a river doesn’t mean they are in any way endangered or need protection for ‘breeding’. 

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 so true. 

Sun, 2018-03-11 14:40

 so true. 

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 Ok i for one will eat humble

Sat, 2018-03-10 10:57

 Ok i for one will eat humble pie. and admit i was wrong in my asumptions 

congrats to it being legit. looking forward to the video .

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Video

Sat, 2018-03-10 15:22
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Quality catch

Sat, 2018-03-10 15:42

 The sound will produce quality fish !!!!!!

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Sat, 2018-03-10 16:17

 My add for my poppers is now for GTs.

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  Great Catch...fair

Sat, 2018-03-10 16:36

 

 Great Catch...fair play.

 Thought Golden Trevs were the only one's really palletable ?

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Its a crazy

Sat, 2018-03-10 16:57

 Its a crazy capture in that area for sure, well done .

I see no problem , someone was going to get it sooner or later. If it was caught on a popper every one would be patting him on the back. I dont see why a fish like this gets such negative responses, but 20kg Dhu's and alike are a praised and liked. 

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 True Grant......or theres

Sat, 2018-03-10 19:48

 

True Grant......or theres the possibility it ends up dead like the Sail fish, they follow there nose due to the water temp but at some stage will find the enviroment different and challenging I'm sure.

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Well, I read the whole thread

Sat, 2018-03-10 21:01

 Fishos  kill all the big breeding Dhu's all the time and get big props for it, then something gets lost, just one of a species which is no way endangered and mostly released, in this country, someone shoots it for some personal satisfaction and a bit of glory, and half the internet loses' it's mind? A bit like the abuse that was slung at the bloke who speared the small black marlin last year? Ok, it was known it was around, would have been nice if it had been around a bit longer as a curiosity, but let's give it the honesty test--if a line fisherman had dropped a livie in front of it on heavy gear, dragged it out and showed it off, would all the responses on here have been the same? Would they? or maybe it would have been applauded if someone caught it on a rod and lure. Spearing a fish is always a very final act, I can get a bit irritated when I see something like a sailfish , which is always released off a line in this country, get speared, but hey--they are fast growing and relatively short lived, and who am I to judge. Shoot one to say you have done it--make a habit of it, different story.  And at least spearfishing is totally selective--no "by-catch" or undersize  killed .

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A line fisho has the option

Sat, 2018-03-10 21:16

A line fisho has the option to release & if caught on a line, that's probably exactly what would of happened, so I don't get your comparison I'm afraid.

99.9% chance the guy that speared it is also a line fisho. That's very important in the full story. It's important because this joker knew where he was going & what he was going to target BEFORE he made the decision to pick up a speargun instead of a fishing rod. He consciously chose a method that garunteed the fishes death. He could have just as easily picked up a rod instead of a spear. A line caught & released GT from Cockburn Sound is a hell of a lot more legendary than picking up a spear & just going & killing something you KNOW is there & KNOW is going to swim right up to you. He made his choice. Just unfortunate that he made the choice for everyone else that may have wanted to see it to.

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 Fail to see you point. Spear

Sat, 2018-03-10 21:24

 Fail to see you point. Spear fisho’s release every single fish they see and don’t shoot unharmed. He didn’t catch and release 30 on the way to his target....

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My point is that this bloke

Sat, 2018-03-10 21:42

My point is that this bloke was informed that there was a big GT hanging at the grain terminal jetty BEFORE he decided to take a spear instead of a rod & BEFORE he got anywhere near the water. It wasn't like he was out spearing & just happened to come across it so took his shot. He stood on perfectly dry land knowing he was targeting a GT & knowing exactly where that GT was. He wasn't out there for any other reason. He wasn't swimming past 30 other fish decided to not spear them. He premeditated every single decision he made. He decided to kill it before he even got in his car to drive to the beach. Sure it's legal & no it's not endangered or any nonsense like that but that doesn't mean it's right either.

It seems it's a personal morals deal. Anyway, that's just my opinion & it seems there's a hell of a lot of people feel the same way. I'm sure there's about the same number that think there's no problem with what he did. Each to their own I guess.

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 Great post again Ranmar -

Sun, 2018-03-11 14:36

 Great post again Ranmar - could not agree more!

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 Great post again Ranmar -

Sun, 2018-03-11 14:38

ps Shmika - no such call was made by anyone in the spearing community there was a GT at the grain terminal - would like to see your evidence that there was! 

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Change story

Sat, 2018-03-10 21:24

Little Andy showed video to me. Sorry to diver . Top fish. But on other hand . I don't believe cane toads in rocko. Toads maybe :).sorry once again to diver top fish.

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 Shimka you are loosing me

Sat, 2018-03-10 22:38

 Shimka you are loosing me here with your arguement....

 

I dont know you one bit but i see you are a passionate fella....

 

If you are so passionate you are up north stopping GT's being speared/line caught/sharked every day?

 

Stuff knows how many get caught then fed to sharks up there but it would happen DAILY!!!

 

So a fish swims south and the rules change?

 

I dont think so.....

 

I saw a mate jump out of a dingi and drag a 40lb mulloway up the beach in south oz one summers day, should he have let it keep swimming in case some old lady saw it and it gave her a moisty?

 

Fish are slayed and wasted all over this country daily, 2 wrongs dont make a right but hey this fella went home and used the fish for a fresh feed...

 

BTW.... Shooting fish in a barrell is actually good fun and very affective way to fish.....

 

 

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but a bit hard on the barrel...

Sun, 2018-03-11 08:12

   Ok, Shimka, i take your point that a line fisherman "might" have released it. "Might" being the operative word, no guarantees there. There are plenty who secretly, or not so secretly, despise the catch and release philosophy. I caught it, my right to kill it, i'll just hang it up all bloody and dried out, posing proudly beside it in grubby stubbies and a stained Bintang t-shirt. But leaving that aside, you are calling Notorious a liar here, not to put too fine a point on it. You claim that "everyone" knew about it, and this bloke sat and waited for it to turn up. He says, and he personally knows the bloke involved, that he regularly spears there, and had never seen it before, and had no prior knowledge. You are making a lot of assumptions.

And anyway, does anyone think it may have become a permanent fixture? GT's are a tropical fish, not even common around Kalbarri. Do you really think it could survive the 16-17 deg temps he will be getting in the not too far distant future? It would have died, or headed out to sea looking for warmer water. End of story. 

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My info is directly from the

Sun, 2018-03-11 10:18

My info is directly from the story MUAC provided on their own FB page about the capture. I'm not calling Notorious a liar. I haven't seen anything from Notorious saying there was no prior knowledge or denying a single thing I have written. I'm certain that if anything I had written was untrue, Notorious would have jumped on me quick smart. I haven't inferred that any part of what he wrote is untrue, only that he left out certain critical details that put this capture in perspective. A bit of searching around & you will find there are heaps of people that knew about this fishes presence & more than a few that had taken their families out to see something they might never get the chance to see again. No doubt this fish would have ended up dead one way or another but it would have been nice if this bloke could have considered other people a bit & had a crack at getting it on a line so it may be released rather than being selfish & just killing it & denying other people the chance to see something they might never see again. It would have been a higher rated capture on a line anyway because that takes some skill while spearing that size fish in those conditions is about as hard as shooting the side of a barn when you're locked inside it. As for your bit about catch & release at the start, it's not very often you find people in Aus keeping GT's. If 100 are caught, I'd reckon at least 80 would be released. Not like spearing where 100 are caught & 100 are dead. I keep my fair share of fish to eat so it's not as if I'm against killing for a feed. This bloke had a choice between a not very good to eat fish who's presence was being enjoyed by those in the know or some properly good eating fish that nobody would have given a stuff about even if he bagged out. In my eyes, he made a crap choice for his own vanity.

Anyway, as I said, I've just given my personal opinion as others have given theirs. If people don't understand my point by now, they are never going to. It's been done to death & I reckon best left alone now so we can all move on.

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 Great post Ranmar -

Sun, 2018-03-11 14:22

 Great post Ranmar - LIKE!

 

Shmika - where on the WAUC website or facebook group was there mentions of a GT at the grain terminal? Please find this alleged reference and show us all? I am one of the admin's on the WAUC pages, no where was there an annoucment of the GT's presence made, not that I see how that may be relevant. 

Secondly, as pointed out, spearfishing is the most sustainable, environmentally friendly, selective form of fishing with NO by catch. Can we say the same about fishing? No. When I fish, I always pull up unintended by-catch, some release well, others dont. Or maybe I'm just a better spearo than line fisherman. 

You are a fisherman on a fishing page, complaining about a fisherman taking a fish - dont you see how ludicrous that looks? However, you dont seem to get upset at the 100's of other fish that die on this page. Classic specieism, maybe look it up, why is the life of a GT more valuable than a Dhufish or Snapper? 

Hundreds of tons of fish die every year in the commercial fishing sector, but you're upset about a school teacher shooting a fish of a lifetime one afternoon? You need to put things in perspective buddy. 

Yes, a fish has died, yes it was eaten. GT are 3 star eating and according to Lewk and his friends/family was an enjoyable meal. 

Perhaps you should spend less time in front of the computer complaining about people catching fish (on a fishing forum) and spend more time out there fishing, and maybe you could have caught the GT yourself? 

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 well put. Everyone is

Sun, 2018-03-11 14:41

 well put. 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but some do get worked up about things. no i dont agree with shooting the gt but in the end it was going to get taken one way or the other as the word spread and many would be out to nail it. 

In saying that at least the fish was consumed and enjoyed and not just a trophy pic on the wall and dumped in the bin. 

 

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I enjoy the presence of

Sun, 2018-03-11 14:51

Shimka - I enjoy the presence of Dhufish, snapper and groper at many of my regular reefs - if a lino came along and caught those fish, do I have a right to have a hissy fit about it? No.......you, me or anyone dont own fish in the ocean. 

To me you sound jealous, let the young bloke enjoy his fish of a lifetime, be happy for the fella just like most of us are. The GT was a legal catch, once in a lifetime, time to let it go. 

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 not jealous at all , yes i

Sun, 2018-03-11 15:43

 not jealous at all , yes i would like to catch one like many others but not to keep. jmo. agree its once in a lifetime fish. as i said at least it was eaten not a trophy

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Already went back to the page

Sun, 2018-03-11 16:25

Already went back to the page yesterday to link the post. Funny how that particular post was deleted a couple of hours after it went up & started getting flamed. How convenient that you challenge me to find it when you are admin on that page. You're probably the one who deleted it. You know full well that WAUC made a post detailing that members received calls from workers at the grain terminal making them aware of this fish. The same post went on to explain that Lewk is a school teacher that went for a "walk" along the beach after he finished work to see if he could find the GT & bag his fish of a lifetime.

Notorious, you are one of two things: 1: terribly misinformed about the goings on of a group you are part of the admin team for. 2: you're a straight up liar.

You don't like it. I don't care. You might have this mob on here fooled pal but I know exactly what I read & I'm not going to fall for your BS.

As I had already posted, this has been done to death & best left alone. I wouldn't have made another post at all if you hadn't called me out. Well now I'm calling you out. You're a fucking liar & if you don't like it, I really don't give a fuck. I repeat, Notorious, you are a fucking liar. I won't be responding to any other posts about this or reading the thread anymore. I've said my bit & called you out for what you are. It's done as far as I'm concerned.

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 Shimka - you need to remove

Sun, 2018-03-11 20:50

 Shimka - you need to remove the tin foil from your head buddy. 

You have made numerous accusations in this thread without any evidence, the best untruths being:

  • Some mysterious CBH workers contacting WAUC and telling us about the GT there (unsure why this would occur?)
  • Subsequently, the WAUC released a "hit" on the GT and put a public call to our members to kill the GT on our social media pages?
  • Lewk, who you claim isnt a spearo, but a lino, went down to CBH to specifically kill the GT after a long day teaching kids
  • Once Lewk had accomplished his murderous task and killed the GT, and after I read your post on Fishwrecked on Thursday, I deleted the alleged WAUC "hit" post. 
  • I am a liar 

I hope you see how ridiculous the above seem? I have no reason whatsoever to lie about any events in relation to the GT. 

You need to get off the wakky tobaccy my friend, you are being paranoid. 

 

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I was going to just PM you

Tue, 2018-03-13 12:39

I was going to just PM you but I have nothing to hide & will not back down from my claims because they are 100% true. So here it is on the forum for all to see.

I didn't say anything about a "hit", so don't put shit in quotations marks to make it seem like I did. I said members were informed of it's presence. I never said Lewk wasn't a spearo. I said it was likely he was a line fisho as well. Seriously, can you even read? You are a liar. I stand by everything I said. You know it's true. I wonder how it is I know he's a school teacher if it wasn't mentioned, along with the other details I've mentioned, in a post on WAUC's FB page that has since been deleted. Probably deleted because some bright spark realized it cast a big shadow over the capture & the entire WAUC organisation. I wonder why it is that he was using such heavy spearing gear if he didn't know what he was after? I guess Tailor & Flathead must get far bigger than I was ever aware of.

The only one being ridiculous is you. You're outright quoting me for things that are not in my posts at all (more evidence you like to make shit up). As for this is based out of jealousy, HA, that's a fucking laugh. Lets just say I've caught more than a couple of GT's that would eat that one for breakfast.

Notorious, you are a liar. Go lie about other shit, don't lie about me. You're a lying piece of shit & a deadest loser. Fuck you & the horse you rode in on.

PS: I don't give a shit about being called a few names. I'm a big boy more than capable of handling with some soft nonsense like that.

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 You mad bro? 

Tue, 2018-03-13 14:31

 You mad?

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that is a fish of a lifetime

Sun, 2018-03-11 08:56

that is a fish of a lifetime for sure for perth waters at least

there could be more around you never know.

If i caught it on line it would go home to feed family as well as one is well within legal rights to take it..

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Sun, 2018-03-11 09:53

 Not my family, they taste like crapola when they’re that big.

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 We would be pretty naive to

Sun, 2018-03-11 10:13

 We would be pretty naive to think that this 1 lonely GT swam into Cockburn sound given they are a school fish, so should make for interesting fishing and a change in fishing techniques targeting them. As for spearfishing it is just another style of fishing and anyone diving in Cockburn sound with the population of sharks there spearfishing .... well keep your wits about you. Can do without the abuse and personal attacks on this site thankyou.

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 +1 Ranmar/Notorious, -10

Sun, 2018-03-11 18:05

 +1 Ranmar/Notorious, -10 Shimka - knob status +10

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You're a real hero aren't

Tue, 2018-03-13 12:42

You're a real hero aren't you? You want to jump on someone because you think it makes you look hard. You have been fooled by a lying sack of shit. You can think I sound stupid all you like but the fact is, I have told the truth & I stand by it. Life lesson for you: stay out of something that has nothing to do with you. This has nothing to do with you, so stay the fuck out of it.

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Fuck I have run out of

Sun, 2018-03-11 17:53

Fuck I have run out of popcorn

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 Onto the beers haha!

Sun, 2018-03-11 18:10

 Onto the beers haha!

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Sun, 2018-03-11 18:50

Shimka = fuckhead.  

 

Shimka, jealousy is a virtue. Just because you didn’t catch it, doesn’t mean it didn’t deserve to be caught. You’re a deadset Fuckhead. 

 

The bloke nailed a trophy fish, and didn’t waste a bit of it. He spent a lot of his hard early money on quality gear to aid him catching a fish of a lifetime,  just as any other fisho would’ve, and put it to good use. 

 

Seriously, who gives a fuck if Jesus himself called him to go down and shoot the thing? No different to catching any other fish in the ocean. COMPLETELY LEGAL AND RIGHT. 

 

seriously shimka, you are a whinging cunt.