Commercial and Rec Fishing changes
Commercial and Rec Fishing changes
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WA Government launches fishing package to save iconic fish for the future.
Western Australia’s coastline between Lancelin and south of Mandurah will become an exclusive zone for recreational line fishing under a State Government move to avoid the overfishing of iconic fish such as dhufish and pink snapper.
In making the announcement today, Fisheries Minister Jon Ford said the Metropolitan Fishing Zone would exclude all commercial line and net fishing of demersal finfish.
Mr Ford said it was a significant measure that demonstrated the WA Government’s commitment to ensuring sustainability of fish stocks in a metropolitan coastal region.
"Creating this Metropolitan Fishing Zone is one of the world’s most innovative moves to make sure our grandkids can still catch these iconic fish in years to come," he said.
While the new Zone will exclude commercial take of demersal finfish (such as sharks and demersal scalefish), it will still allow various managed fisheries such as lobster and abalone. Demersal scalefish include iconic species such as dhufish, baldchin groper, pink snapper, red snapper and breaksea cod.
The Minister said the Zone was part of a new ‘fishing management package’ that would impact on the whole State, particularly the West Coast Bioregion, which stretched from Kalbarri to Black Point near Augusta.
"This package will secure fish for the future in WA by preserving key demersal fish, which new research shows are at risk of collapsing," Mr Ford said.
"New research which I’m releasing today shows that unless we take action now, stocks of key demersal fish will collapse within four to five years and these fish will all but disappear from our waters.
"Two of the ‘at risk’ species, dhufish and baldchin groper, are not found anywhere else in the world and WA has a responsibility to preserve them.
"I am committed to ensuring these iconic species don’t become a fond and distant memory to Western Australians.
"This would be a shocking legacy for Western Australians to bear, so we must take action now to guarantee future generations are able to fish for these species."
Features of the fishing management package announced today for the WA coast are:
• Metropolitan Fishing Zone stretching from Lancelin 31?S to south of Mandurah 33?S. Excludes all commercial fishing for demersal finfish and is effective as of November. State Government funding of more than $5million has been allocated to buy out all commercial line and demersal gill-net fishers in the Metropolitan Zone;
• New research that shows key demersal fish are under such serious pressure that stocks of these fish along the West Coast Bioregion could collapse within four to five years if action is not taken now;
• More than $5.3million research funding over four years to undertake detailed monitoring of demersal fish catches by recreational and commercial fishers. This research will evaluate the effectiveness of management practices to rebuild these fish stocks;
• Release of a discussion paper calling for the WA community to comment on the future management of recreational fishing of demersal fish. This discussion paper is the start of a process to determine a more effective long-term strategy before July next year; and
• Interim fishing measures to protect ’at risk’ demersal fish species, phased in from November until the new recreational fishing strategy is determined. These interim measures will be:
o extending the closure to fishing for pink snapper in the Cockburn area;
o extending the existing possession limit to place of residence throughout WA;
o total protection for baldchin groper in the Abrolhos Islands; and
o a limit of four Category 1 (high risk) fish per person on aquatic charter boats operating along the WA coast.
"Growing concerns about the sustainability of key demersal fish is based on evidence of escalating fishing effort, particularly by the burgeoning recreational fishing sector," Mr Ford said.
"The number of registered recreational boats has grown rapidly as the State’s population continues to climb. Recreational fishers have also become more effective as they have quickly adopted new technology.
"In particular, global positioning systems (GPS) and high quality sounders have now become standard items on fishing boats and this has made recreational fishing much more precise and targeted."
The Minister said the commercial fishing sector had undergone considerable transformation in the past two years and the exclusion of commercial line and net fishers from the Metropolitan Fishing Zone recognised the significance of increasing fishing pressure in the metropolitan region.
"This action will provide immediate relief to fish stocks, but further action is necessary and the burden of responsibility cannot and should not be carried alone by commercial fishers," he said.
"Recreational fishers in WA are to be commended for the way they have supported the existing management system based on bag and size limits, but it is clear that the problems we now face require new and innovative solutions.
"The research and discussion papers show we really need to focus on cutting back the fishing mortality of our key demersal scalefish species."
Mr Ford said interim measures were aimed at reducing the fishing pressure on key species until the consultation period was completed by July next year, when a more effective long-term management strategy would be introduced.
The discussion paper, which marked the beginning of the consultation process, is called ’Fisheries Management Paper No. 225 - Managing the recreational catch of demersal scalefish on the West Coast’. This paper, and the Fisheries Research Report No. 163 on the stock status of key species, is available from the Department of Fisheries website at
http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/mp/mp225/fmp225.pdf Managing The Recreational Catch Of Demersal Scalefish On The West Coast - Future Management Scenarios for Community Consideration
http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/frr/frr163/frr163.pdf Spatial scales of exploitation among populations of demersal scalefish: implications for management. Part 1: Stock status of the key indicator species for the demersal scalefish fishery in the West Coast Bioregion.
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I like it! Just IMO that
I like it! Just IMO that sounds good. Dont know about the bauldie thing at abrohlos though.......there like blowies up there!lol.
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Good news!
The money going to research sounds good too.
Will be reading the links you put up Terry, when I have some time.
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Have only just finished
Have only just finished reading them Andy and theres some good info as well. Many many issues and solutions and some good controversy as well. Im starting to think that we all might be getting through finally about some of the "important" issues and for that i am satisfied......for the most part anyway :)
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dhuies
Andy, short time i've been on line you seem to have your fair share of the dhuies, if you stop catchin em, maybe i can !!!!!
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mmmmmmm jealousy hehehehe
mmmmmmm jealousy hehehehe lol......catching them is easy! Finding them is the secret!
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bout bloody time i reckon and thats coming from a commercial fisherman! the amount of dhuies that get taken by wetliners out the back of lancelin is rediculous! now that need to work on limits for dhuis and pinks down that way as well! everyone should be issued w a rec fisheries permit to nab people who are not doing the right thing!
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What a load of crap IMO . In
What a load of crap IMO . In all my time out there i have never seen a commercial fisherman yet in the proposed closed area that"s because they fish from green heads north and mandurah south so i realy can't see them getting too upset with those new rules.
There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot
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great news, i know there is
just my opinion
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read thru the 130 page report that Terry was kind enough to provide a link to.
Heres a couple of screenshot from the report to give you a bit of an idea. The first two are the pro area of effort. The darker the colour the more pro effort. These are for handline/dropline and gillnet/longline. Click on the piccy to enlarge it.
These two are the catch returns for dhufish in those areas. Other fish had different graphs, go find them yourselves
As you all can see there is a substantial pro effort in the local waters and a significant dhufish catch as well.
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Good news about reducing the
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Context
Blaming the pro's isn't going to improve the stocks for the future, but taking positive action to release undersize and unwanted fish to give them their best possible chance at survival will.
Whilst I agree the impact will not be all that sizeable given the lack of acute commercial pressure in Metro waters, I do think however that it has a degree of psychological impact for the reasons I have already stated. More needs to be done but I am glad at least some money has been allocated to the cause. And despite the rhetoric, the fact that our local rec fishery is actually getting some attention is better than nothing happening at all.
My view is that you, me and everyone else that goes out to catch a feed needs to be mindful that every last undersize dhuie is like gold and must be released with care. That's the only message I want to get across.
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Yeah good message andy,
Yeah good message andy, maybe a few people might get together and make a video outlining handling and release techniques for the public to view. Im sure there are some people who don't know what they're doing, and this is one outlet that could help.
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Handling video
Previous release weight vids have focussed on the capture rather than the release so there is some merit in doing a dedicated vid on handling and release.
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One Key Graph
If you are looking for a reason to celebrate the exclusion of commercial pressure on the metro region for Dhufish, then definately check out the links Terry supplied to the raw data. Whilst we might not see the pro boats out there they are definately catching a ship load of Dhuies (probably midweek while us recs are at work).
Once they stop that will certainly eleviate some pressure on the metro fishery.
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course they are, and
course they are, and shitloads of other fish too....
How else do the public enjoy such fine fish in our cities and other cities fish mongers? We must not forget that we have a bloody THRIVING seafood industry and this is fuelled by the pros.
Everyone has to make an effort to help this epidemic, but a good start is with the pro's because most of the time, its more about money than anything else.
If they didnt do this, in a time in the not too distant future, the price of a pinkie or dhu in the mongers would rise so high and you would rather buy 10 skippy, 20 herring and a few tailor from the monger because in comparison, they will be bloody full of it...
I dont know about you, but i dont want to go to the fish and chip shop and order a fillet of what is meant to be top quality fish and eat a deep fried fillet of bread and butter species.
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Plenty of rec fishers should
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They only tell you what you
They only tell you what you want to hear! And ive beleived that from the very start!!!!!!!!
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Dose the ruduced bag limit
Dose the ruduced bag limit only apply in the Mandurah to lancilin stretch??
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I'm a little curious to how
There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot
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Totally agree with you on
Totally agree with you on the taking of a feed within the regs. Its just that I sometimes wonder why people have to fish to the bag limit when they have already caught enough fish to eat fresh. As a matter of interest how many people release Dhufish that are over size?
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Rec catch figures
I have problems with it too as was mentioned in previous threads months back, but that's the best they have to go on. Hopefully the moneys allocated to research as part of this deal will improve our knowledge of the extraction rate with more creel surveys spread over longer periods of time to capture seasonal differences and other variables.
The best graph (or worst depending on where you sit) is the correlation between catch rate and the influx of GPS technology. The efficiency that comercial guys have now is unbelievable. The scary thing is they have always had a jump on recs with use of cutting edge technology. With the number of guys with high powered colour sounders out there now and chart plotters the fish have nowhere to hide.
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I was told the actual method a while back of determining weight/
obtain a large sample of weight and lengths, spreadsheet it, plot it, then fit to a von bertalanffy curve
von bertalanffy growth equation then allows you to then predict.
see i learn things at uni :P
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Scaly Whalebone
I release all my metro Dhufish , big small and inbetween.
But that just me , some even get a little tag in them .
If I was fishing up Jurien to Dongara area where the pressure is reduced compared to metro I MAY take one to eat but I don't see the big deal in Dhuies , I would rather a feed of Pinkies or some pigfish , now there's a fish to savour , even flatties and whiting are above Dhuies for me .
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Im a catch and release
Im a catch and release person, so bring on the tighter rec fish changes ;)
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Boat Limit?
Having been pretty successful at picking up the odd dhufish every now and again we have only once or twice in the last 5 years come home with more than a couple of Dhuies in the esky. So I figure it isn't going to hurt too badly, however bigger boats with more people onboard will feel the effects far more severely.
Dropping the boat limit to 2 might cause a bit of angst onboard after I nail the first two
Seriously it would be interesting to see how they arrive at a fair and equitable figure per boat. If it does come in, is it going to be based on boat size, crew size or just cart blache (spelling).
Very interesting.
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New Fishing Restrictions
I'm currently in the hunt for a boat having recently sold mine before heading south. These new fishing restrictions could be a blessing for me and any other people looking at purchasing a new boat. The restrictions will force some boat owners to sell also make it tough for retailers to sell boats from their dealerships. Therefore I have decided to wait untill next year when I am 100% sure market prices on boats will drop. What do you guys think could I be right?
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I will just spend more time
I will just spend more time at busso that's where i'm heading for the long weekend
There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot
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kalbarri area
Im not to switched on w the fishing down here anymore but i do know that up in kalbarri most of the wetliners that do the right thing fish out at the bank which is an average of 40miles out and further, there are a couple of mavricks that fish the lumps close to home but only a couple. Unfortunately now for us up there all your hot spots close to home are well guarded and left alone when holidays are on. Ill take the tinny 18-25 miles up the coast and fish light line for pinks in the shallows and only take my 4 pinks which are 3kg or over anything under is thrown back.. Common sense really, but ill eat 4 pinks in 2 days cos up there seafood is the staple diet. Heres a good one for ya! no offence to fisheries BUT!! One day after work put the boat in the pen and i was chatting to 2 fisheries officers and asked them when they were going to put an office up here and told them the reason why, my response- "sorry mate its not going to happen cos therell be arguments over who will want to come up here." That was 4 years ago now and still nothing has happened. The decreased bag limits on charter boats is well overdue as well and if ya dont like it go down the jetty and buy fish strait from the boat fresh cheap and easy....................
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Saving the Dhuie, Pink Snapper and demersal fish.
Recreational fishing management changes.
Saving the Dhuie, Pink Snapper and demersal fish.
Media Statement :- Minister Ford encourages debate on how to save iconic fish species
Fisheries Minister Jon Ford has today called on Western Australians to engage in debate about the future of recreational fishing for demersal scalefish, such as dhufish and pink snapper that are under threat.
The Minister's call follows Monday's release of a discussion paper that highlights the need for a more effective long-term management strategy for recreational fishing of demersal scalefish to ensure the future sustainability of these vulnerable iconic species.
Demersal scalefish are bottom-dwelling fish such as dhufish, baldchin groper and pink snapper. These species are predominantly found in deeper offshore waters and are targeted by boat fishers.
Demersal scalefish do not include herring, whiting or any other similar species caught in inshore waters such as beaches, jetties or groynes.
Mr Ford said the discussion paper was released as part of a new 'fishing management package' that would secure fish for the future in WA by preserving key demersal scalefish.
He said the package included new research that showed stocks of Western Australia's iconic demersal scalefish such as dhufish, baldchin groper and pink snapper would collapse within four to five years if action was not taken.
Commercial fishers were also a focus of the package, with commercial line and gillnet commercial fishers being banned from the Metropolitan Fishing Zone, between Lancelin and south of Mandurah.
Another part of the package was the announcement of interim measures that would affect predominantly recreational fishers throughout the State. These measures would be put in place until a long-term management strategy for recreational fishing of demersal scalefish was finalised next year.
The Minister said the discussion paper, 'Managing the Recreational Catch of Demersal Scalefish', marked the beginning of a process to develop this long-term management strategy.
"The discussion paper includes some possible options as a starting point for debate. They are only some of the options that people can consider and will not necessarily form part of the final recommendations to be released for public comment early next year," he said.
"Recreational fishers in WA are to be commended for the way they have supported the existing management system based on bag and size limits but it's clear that the problems we now face require new and innovative solutions.
"The release of this discussion paper for public comment provides an opportunity for Western Australians to express their views on how recreational fishing for demersal species should be managed in the future.
"While I encourage a broad ranging debate, let's be clear that the debate is about demersal scalefish and not fish such as herring or whiting.
"I look forward to receiving people's ideas as we move towards a better management system that will ensure that our grandkids can fish for these iconic fish in the future," he said.
A series of public meetings will be held next month and copies of the discussion paper can be obtained from Department of Fisheries or viewed online at http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/mp/mp225/index.php?0602
The closing date for submissions on the discussion paper is November 16, 2007.
Submissions should be sent to: Recreational Fishing Review, Department of Fisheries, Locked Bag 39, Cloisters Square Post Office, Perth, WA, 6850. Alternatively, submissions can be entered online by visiting the Department of Fisheries' website at http://www.fish.wa.gov.au
Minister's office - 9213 7200
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The papers are http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/mp/mp225/index.php?0602 Managing The Recreational Catch Of Demersal Scalefish On The West Coast - Future Management Scenarios for Community Consideration
http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/frr/frr163/index.php?0401 Spatial scales of exploitation among populations of demersal scalefish: implications for management. Part 1: Stock status of the key indicator species for the demersal scalefish fishery in the West Coast Bioregion.
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Honestly I really can't see
There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot
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With the talked about new
With the talked about new rules You want need a rod to go out and catch a dhuie just a net to scoop them off the top after being released in 80 meters because a bigger was caught.
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Surface netting
Hopefully with more and more people using release weights, floaters will be a thing of the past Bill, though I am not naive enough to think it hasn't happened a lot in the past and that some will continue to do so.
Upgrading of deepwater specimens would churn my stomach if that was truly still going on out there after all the publicity about catch care and sustainability recently. A very selfish act with total disregard for the future. Hopefully they are a dying breed.
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Paradigm Shift
The "bus" being the "do the right thing bandwagon" and the running over bit is the "or we won;t have any decent fish left to catch." Simple as that!
I don't doubt you are right about the practices of some out there and they will continue on to some extent, but I think that there are a load of fishos out there with far rosier glasses than me if they think that the Dhuie isnt in any danger and take the (oh, what's my one fish over the side going to do in the bigger scheme of things, she'll be right mate, lets upgrade.) In isolation it isn't going to make much impact, but that attitude unfortunately will, as that is what gets passed from generation to generation. This generation has to change unfortunately, so its up to us!
I know there are going to be problems with comps where incentives to catch the big one will possibly tempt some to upgrade, but lets hope that gradually (make that as quickly as possible) the general boat fishing public will come to accept what needs to be done and make that paradigm shift from protecting their "right to fish" to "enjoying the privilage of fishing, whilst accepting that it now comes with some added responsibility."
As for the 4 smallish cat 1 fish followed by the 15kg dhuie, if they frequent this site, hopefully they will take a heap of very quick pics and video tape the release for all to admire. To me the everlasting images of a giant of the species heading back to make some more babies will be far more appreciated than a few fillets in the tummy for the next three or four weeks and the guilt of seeing a dead fish float away. In which case again a topical FWA Mag article I wrote is coming up hopefully in November's issue and is on increasing your desirable bycatch of other species whilst fishing for Dhuies and Snapper etc. In there I talk about a "trip saver" and that is my fall back if I don't get a big fish, that way I always come home with a feed so the disappointment of letting a big Dhuie go back down is kind of minimised if you like.
If this topic had come up say 10 years ago I would have been far less green and far more gung ho, but having tasted some success with the species I now have a much greater respect for them and having read up a lot about them over the last 18 months and spent quite some time talking to Ian Keay and the like, I guess I have come to realise that it isn't like the old days and never will be again. I figured the quicker I could jump on that "bus" the quicker I would get to "enjoy the ride", rather than running alongside worried that the next bus is going to run me over.
Crikey I sound like a fishing evangelist!!!
Lots to discuss in this very quickly changing landscape of rec fishing in WA. Lets hope for your sake they don;t drop the KG bag limit down to 2 per angler.
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kgs
i hope they dont drop the limit on those kgs either lol
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Page 51 Thursday's West Australian
Well one thing is for sure and that is they won';t be fishing it for much longer.
Still lots to do and even tighter controls required but it is a welcome start in my book.
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Hell yeah andy! I read that
Hell yeah andy! I read that as well.....fully agree with ya dude!
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Will be interesting to see
Will be interesting to see if catch rate will increase after the pro's have been out the metro for a while.
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I had a very interesting
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Sounds like hes in denial
Sounds like hes in denial and is trying to fabricate loopholes to make himself feel better about his dismal situation lol
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Does anyone know how far the
Does anyone know how far the metero area covers?
Just want to know if places like the derwent and other offshore spots will be protected from Pro's.
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yeah my question is, how far
yeah my question is, how far west does the metro area cover :P
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Proposed Fishing Restrictions
Any ideas how long the restrictions will be inforce,if they are put in place?
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So they can still fish the
So they can still fish the offshore spots like the derwent which can hold loads of pinkies?
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I thought I read it was all
I thought I read it was all the way out to the 200NM AEZ but I cant find it again, in the 10 minutes I just spent then looking, so I cant be 100% sure on that.
OK found this one http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/mp/mp224/fmp224.pdf
In there the metropolitian fishing zone extends to the 250 metre contour.
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Bump
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250m contour, I suppose that
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Agree andy.....maybe a catch
Agree andy.....maybe a catch up for a talk over a beer might be needed so veryone can gets a few words in and discuss it further. Its something that WILL affect all future fishing trips.
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IMO i also wouldn't mind
IMO i also wouldn't mind seeing a maximum size limit for certain fish. Careful selection would have to be made though as stated before big dhuies don't release to well so they might be out of the question. But Big bauldies and Pinkies could be released with greater success and left to breed and reproduce.
Andy Mac
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I would love to convince Gully or someone else with scuba gear to jump overboard with a camera in say 40m of water and film the release weight doing its job on a Dhuie. Lets see how it swims away after the release weight is given a tug. Would make a great vid for the site and maybe help everyone appreciate what goes on down there just that little bit more. If it swims away strongly, how much more confidence is that going to give us compared with seeing a fish flap about on the surface waiting to be pecked to death by a few mutton birds or gobbled up by a shark.
Perhaps the vision may help convince a few others to use that method.
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Gully
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Awesome idea Andy
Am in on it for sure - as soon as the swell drops and the weather improves we will have to get out there and do it. Could do it to 40m pretty easily but probably wouldnt want to go much deeper. Now just got to get some good weather :)
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Gully
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Some of the stuff I read
Some of the stuff I read ages ago dealing with the problems of releasing dhufish was unfortunately not to promising for any released fish from 40+ meters.
It is not a case of just get them down fast and let the water pressure push everything back to normal. The expansion of the air bladder causes major arterial ruptures and there was something that happens to the blood. Has some ph change that causes heart failure and blindness.
I can not remember the exact details but it was a research paper into the matter. The fish may swim off after release but dies shortly after.
Basically dhuies from depth do not do well and those from 100 meters have zero chance.
Get ready for closed zones from 40 meters out I reckon
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I'm not advocating that
I'm not advocating that closed zones at breeding time, larger minimum size and reduced bags it what i want, but this government is taking its advice from people that may be recomending something that draconian. Its all got to do with the survival if released.
Its all speculation on my behalf but I would not be suprised if something like that happens.
Spawning aggs for dhuies? I have caught them shallow and deep with eggs so where do you close off. Its not as localised as snapper or sambos.
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