Corona Virus
Submitted by Dale on Sun, 2020-03-22 11:18
Well it’s strange times we live in, seeing plenty of stories that concern, my wife is a diabetic so she’s at risk. Elderly at risk. Seeing posts this morning where it’s also being transmitted via fuel pumps, so that’s something else to be considered. I’m happy to sit at home, just venture out for alcohol runs. Look after yourselves and your families, and hopefully we all come out the other side in good health.
On a side note, I saw yesterday where Trump said, this virus is killing people who haven’t died before.
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Trump! Ahhh bless his cotton
Trump! Ahhh bless his cotton socks and orange face.
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He never stops giving does
He never stops giving does he
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Trumps a legend....it was the
Trumps a legend....it was the chiinnesss.
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This I do admit is gold.
This I do admit is gold.
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Hardest I've laughed in
Hardest I've laughed in years when I heard trump refer to covoid 19 as the "Kung flu", pissed myself laughing!!!
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So what’s the deal with
So what’s the deal with traveling around the state. Didn’t hear McGowan say you couldn’t travel around state. It’s very confusing??
Bring on April
Doc
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As far as I'm aware, you can
As far as I'm aware, you can stay within the state but borders will close. We're currently heading home before we need a permit to cross states. As it stands for us, we just need to get back to Victoria which we will do probably on Tuesday and head back to Geelong. Park the bus up for 12 months.
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AFL season has been suspended
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All non essential travel has been kyboshed by scomo
Looks like he's finally said something that I agree with . All NON ESSENTIAL travel has been asked to stop ASAP. It's a no brainer, everyone needs to stay put and chill the fuck out...... Keep the virus at bay by not travelling is a smart move.
My wife understands why I clean my rods n reels in the shower....
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Total infected numbers in
Total infected numbers in Australia are doubling about every 3 days ....within two weeks we will have Italy's problem with hundreds of people dying in coridors of hospitals unless people do the right thing and do not travel.
It defenitly is a no brainer as Silver fox says.
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Lets not go over the top,
Lets not go over the top, that worst case whats happening in Italy. Lots of countries not as bad.
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D_d_001
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Do the maths
past 2 weeks
March 7 = 74 cases Aust wide
March 22 = 1286 cases Aust wide
average rate of infection = + 21% per day ...do the compound interest on that.
It's hopefull that social distancing measures will slow this rate. Australia also has a few other things going for it (suburbia etc)
Italy was having great hospital problems by the time the national infection rate was somewhere around 20,000
At current rates (doubling every 3-4 days) It will be 2 weeks before Australia has 20,000 cases. (I do thinks that the social distancing border closures and the comming school closures etc will have an impact on that and it should slow the rate of infection)
I see now that Vic. is closing schools and doubt that there will be a school open in Australia by mid week. (public transport should be next)
Sorry bud I understand that holidays and fishing is close to us all ....and important to us all..... but if that's what you are thinking about now then you are just not understanding the gravity of the situation we are in.
FUCK I ABSOLUTELY hope that in two weeks everyone one here says to me .....haha idiot you were wrong. I hope the current measures and comming measures will be enough to slow it considerably
BTW Italy is not worst case.
Justin M
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Exactly. People don't seem to
Exactly. People don't seem to understand that there is limited amount of ICU beds and respirators that are available. You'll have hospital services stretched so badly with an influx of patients that they will be triaging them like they are in Italy. Normal everyday stuff like car accidents and heart attacks etc wont go on hold whilst the virus circulates and these peoples care will suffer if the hospitals are overloaded with COVID patients. Not to mention that flu season is just around the corner, so without drastic measures you would have an absolute nightmare
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F*#@%^&(:)&$!#^&((%$@@%^K
I got a three month holiday travelling that's in limbo. Been planning for the last year. Not happy is an understatment.
Old fishermen never die they just smell that way.
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Hope
Just gotta hope our isolation from the eastern seaboard, and the SA/NT border closures help keep things on the low end in WA.
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The whole virus thing is
The whole virus thing is pretty full on but Trump is a classic! 3 month holiday out the window sure sux, lotta planning in that.
Bend over
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will bottle shops close?
will bottle shops close?
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If you're not already
If you're not already prepared I'm surprised ;)
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its been a big couple nights
its been a big couple nights camping ahahahah
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all sorted once again
all sorted once again
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Faaark no !!!
I'm sitting on six boxes of Furphys at the moment. That gives me a range of about ten weeks, may need to go get a few more so I can go from two per arvo to a few more than two if need be.... :D
My wife understands why I clean my rods n reels in the shower....
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There's been no queues
There's been no queues outside bottlo's I'm truly disappointed.
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I'm 3 months into a year off work and now this happens
Have been down south, up through the Goldfields and now back in Geraldton since last week as the situation has worsened. We were going to head East, but changed our plans luckily and were going to go north then East.
Looks like we will be staying put and seeing what pans out here in WA if McGowan folliws other states and locks down WA.
Guess I should get out and do some kayak fishing in the meantime. Weather is looking good this week .
Been hopeless here trying to buy toilet paper from Woolies or Coles, effing panic buyers stuffing up up for everyone else.
That sucks about the footy being canned eh!
Now, I must log on and change my super plan to cash, though I don't want to see how much has been wiped off from my modest balance
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Seriously though some hard
Seriously though some hard and quick decisions need to be made. Mcgowan's doing a pretty good job imo I wouldn't wany his job at the moment. People need some sort of certainty and direction, imo lock down should happen sooner rather than later, I think most people are resigned to the inevitabillity of it. But is is a massive call. There's still only around 100 cases in the state so I think our curve is pretty good and closing the borders was a very good call. But I'm certainly no expert just reading what's common sense.
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Billcollector
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With the amount of people
With the amount of people flying back into the country you expect it to rise rapidly. Hopefully we will see it flatten out in a couple of weeks. I think the Feds and McGowan are doing ok, NSW on the otherhand poor.
crano
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liquor stores
I was doomsday prepping at a liquor store yesterday and the lady that owns it said they will not have to shut down if there is a lock down.Grog and mulies i the only things I have stockpiled.
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How bad is quality of mulies
How bad is quality of mulies at moment. Never seen them so small and soft
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Yep
Grabbed a block from BW Joondalup today on the spur of the moment, not much size to them.
Mick at Shorecatch normally has the good gear, I'll try and drop in there this week.
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You need bait bj
You need bait bj
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Pinkies
Looking at doing a couple of berley sessions for pinks down here.
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Surely not
You can not possibly be going to the dark side
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Mick has been going the
Mick has been going the extra mile and sourcing top notch large mulies lately, definitely go and see him!
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I've been buying Scalies and
I've been buying Scalies and they are doing the job. I laughed at the last block of Mulies I bought and have them earmarked for burley.
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Peed off traveller
Had a RAC truck pull up out front this arv o, had a Prado full of gear on the back. Spoke to the lady from it, she said they put unleaded in by mistake at Billabong and had to have it towed to Carnarvon to get tank drained. The mechanic doesn't start till 8 tomorrow morning and that gives them 60 hours to be at Darwin airport to fly home to England, that is if the border isn't shut before then.
We had to remove 3/4 of the chairs to work with the 4 sq metre ruling and in the morning out go the rest and tables stacked, take away food only, which is going to piss a lot of travellers right off
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I just had my two childhood
I just had my two childhood mates around to watch the footy. One has just lost his job after the PM's announcement as he works in hospitality and the other is the managing director of a chain of hotels and just had to do the ring around to shut them all down putting hundreds of staff out of work. What a nightmare.
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
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Wait till the interweb
Wait till the interweb collapses from everyone at home using it. That will be scary.
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I'll be back to digging
I'll be back to digging through the Newsagent's skip bin for my porn
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They were the best times
They were the best times
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Already slowing down where I
Already slowing down where I am!
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They recon the internet band
They recon the internet band width should be OK for most at home......If schools get closed and the kids are streaming movies...then were phuked!!
Apparently Woodside have laid off up to 400 causal working with zero....just paid out there share holders 300 plus million though...how the phuk does Qantus get 715 Mil from the GOv then lay off 20,000 workers...anyone explain that please ???.
Very grateful my company has set me up to work from home!
Wife just questioned my April fishing trip if the caravan park closes...I said easy, we will camp....No shower for 5 days piss easy!! :)..
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You are on the same
You are on the same wavelngth re fishing mate
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No backpackers or grey
No backpackers or grey nomads too.
I had to cancel my camping trip to Cape York but the local camping this year will be fantastic.
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sunshine
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Only decent mulies are Bevans
All the rest are tiny, soft and bluntly only good for burley. plenty of good scalies around, tougher bait and not so attractive to pickers
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Gun shops have gone mad,
Gun shops have gone mad, mate owns one. Almost out of ammo he said. Don't know what people are planning on shooting
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Panic buying toilet paper,
Panic buying toilet paper, emu export and now ammo, just the rednecks for sure
Deckie
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Question..
If there is a lock down, can we still go fishing out of our local marinas etc ???
Would love to go north for a while.
Cheers & Stay safe
Fathom
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No way
You will get arrested for non essential travel
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The 250 on cruise ship
Going to Fiona Stanley. They have cleared the whole ward for them
Billcollector
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And the rest of the
And the rest of the ship.....Sent packing
Silver Fox
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Hear hear
The kybosh needs to be put out on all travel within the state.
For example Betty and Frank ( pick the tv show... ) head north on their annual pilgrimage, Frank doesn't realise that he's been infected by a diesel bowser prior to leaving and falls sick in Coral Bay. Unbeknownst to them the happy hour out the front of Merle and Dave's every afternoon has been the local Petri dish for infectious disease spreading and before you know it all of Coral Bay ( 5000 people in peak season ) are infected. Try treating that at the local nursing post with a grand total of two staff, the shit has hit the fan in a major way and there's just not the resources within the region ( Try all of Western Australia) to cope with a mass outbreak .
Sometimes we've got to make sacrifices in life for not only our benefit but the benefit of all.
Please for the love of God, stay put and stay safe until this has blown over. Your holiday destination will be there next year and the fish should be even bigger...... :D
My wife understands why I clean my rods n reels in the shower....
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Wow ship not
Allowed to get any sick people off.
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I think were obligated to
I think were obligated to assist by Law...McGowen digging in by the sounds of it....Waiting for Rottnest to be set up maybe.
Heard earlier today WA has two currently in critical condition.
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Harsh
Harsh, but probably necessary.
We have to clamp down.
The school issue still has me undecided though.
I did then the best that I knew how. When I knew better, I did better.
little johnny
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With all this social distancing
Does this mean fisheries can not board your boat? Touch all your gear ? Breaking the law by what the government is saying . Imagine how many people there in contact with during a weekend. I would put them in high risk department.
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Lol think of it the other
Lol think of it the other way around mate, they will probably refuse to board boats as a work/safety risk. My son is booked for a driving test very soon and that will get canned as the government assessors are getting antsy about being in a car with other people no 1.5m safe distance.
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They checked my boat last
They checked my boat last wknd on the Saturday night. Didn't board my boat but made me open all Esky and buckets and checked with a torch. Then checked my fishing licensed and washed his hands in the water and they left
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Jackfrost80
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Just make a big sign saying
Just make a big sign saying 'In Isolation' and flash it as they come close.
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
meglodon
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Just fly a
Quarantine flag that should keep them at bay, then tell them they will have to go into a self isolation period of 14 days on unpaid leave.
Alan James
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Ban on all essential travel
LJ, my understanding on the ban on all essential travel within Australia means that no one can hitch up their boat withn the intention of going fishing and drive to a ramp to launch, solo or otherwise. You could walk you boat such as a kayak if you live close enough to the coast and beach launch but if you were to launch at a ramp / marina you may not escape the 2 metre exclusion zone. Simply recreational fishing is not classified as essential travel.
Mick C
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Non-Essential Travel Definition - Guardian Story 22 March
Interesting viewpoint.
But the definition of non-essential is dependent on individual circumstance, and the government has urged Australians to consider the health of the community’s most vulnerable in deciding whether travel is essential or not.
Exercise ‘common sense’In his press conference Sunday, the prime minister defined “non-essential travel” as “the sort of travel that would not be normally part of your normal life”.
“Going to the shops is something you have to do, get into work, other important tasks you have to do on a daily basis, but I think Australians can exercise their common sense about things they know are not essential and this is again the point I am making to people: we will give you as many rules and as many guidelines as we can but we need you to think carefully about what you are doing and your behaviour and the impact it has on others.”
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Alan James
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The key words here are
The Prime Minister said:
"... but I think Australians can exercise their common sense about things they know are not essential and this is again the point I am making to people ..."
People who believe that recreational fishing is essential, need to rethink their mindset.
One of the best and simply put messages I have read was by a pandemic expert who said:
"... It's up to us. What people should do is act as though they have the virus and do not want to pass it to others instead of the I don't want to get it mindset. Viewed from this perspective I would not have gone to the xyz festival Saturday to avoid infecting my whole community and I would not be driving to xyz on Monday to collect my friends from the airport ..."
An interesting shift in thinking and I can see how it would help. I wonder how many can act on it though?
Brock O
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Alan...You cant be f$#king
Alan...You cant be f$#king serious surely ??
No going to the park...Hope your not walking your dog each morning or arvo either...
D_d_001
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think Alan is just quoting
think Alan is just quoting what the PM (Scott Morrison) and others have said.
so not sure why the comment??????
the words here are "common sense" .....walking the dog....cant see a problem
Interation here is the key. take 3 mates on your boat and you seriously need to rethink your priorities.
Brock O
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Exactly...common sense...I
Exactly...common sense...I fish with my daughter.
I'm still allowed to go buy take away food or coffee....FFS
D_d_001
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yep if you only fish with you
yep
if you only fish with you daughter....common sense says it should be ok.
little johnny
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Disagree
I where gloves at fuel station . I only fish with 2 people not at same time . Safe as houses . For my wife’s sake due to medical conditions . I sleep outside ( patio) also due to my work. Not to do with my fishing addiction. I isolate .Be full lockdown soon for all of us . Not bad for a flu . What concerns me the most is suicide/ bankruptcy/ only going to get bigger. I honestly feel for those suffering . I also think fishing is safe option
little johnny
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We must all think of
Elderly / and sick . Hygiene ect .
Alan James
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The point many seem to be missing is
your mindset. As I mentioned in my earlier post you should be adopting the position that you are COVID-19 positive. Would you be doing what you may have planned to do tomorrow, the next day or the next if you were. Fishing trips over the next few months up north with family and oldies. As an avid fisherman myself I can totally understand the frustration.
I'm 69 this year and plan on living a few more years yet so all I ask is that others show some consideration to others.
little johnny
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Fair call
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Paul_86
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100% agree mate, not enough
100% agree mate, not enough people taking this seriously enough!
If everyone does everything they can to help stop this thing spreading then we might have a fighting chance
Brock O
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True...I'm still trying to
True...I'm still trying to get my head around this...1st week working at home and I feel like its doing my head in already.
I need a reality check...pretty lucky to still have a job, family health is all good at this stage.
If this was acted on quicker and people bringing it back to Australia knew the implications it might be different....If it started in in China (December) was declared an international emergency in (January).....then we have had 3 months of travelers returning already.
Hopefully a cure is created soon...As going by international health organisation page there currently is nothing to stop it.
Chinbald
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North West Communes
I was visiting my oldies in a commune south of Broome a few years ago when a severe gastro bug took hold of the place. People were dropping like flys. We left to head North to do the Gibb with the kids in tow only to return 3 weeks later and I came down with it at Broome. Couldn't imagine the carnage if this virus hits the likes of 80 mile or Broome at the peak of Grey nomad season. Will be interesting to see how they handle the people movements, just got back from Exmouth yesterday and still plenty of backpacking vans moving about.
Billcollector
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Pretty quiet on the
Pretty quiet on the tourist front up here at the moment but this time of year it's still too hot .Doubt if the backpackers that need to work will come here as all the places they would normally work are now shut.
I'm working at the airport at the moment and hearing no more flights from Friday. Will wait and see.
eziliving
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When I drove home from
When I drove home from Karratha last Wednesday there was a steady stream heading north
Get busy living, or get busy dying!
Deleted
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Many of you taking kids out
Many of you taking kids out of school?
D_d_001
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My daughter is at Uni so bit
My daughter is at Uni so bit different but no way she is going (however she is OL easy enough)
dodgy
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My daughter is in a full
My daughter is in a full time dance school that includes education. We had booked her flight home but the school decided to close as of last night anyway.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
West Coast
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Yep
Year 2 and Year 4. We have taken them out. We are both working from home. Will take a bit to get used to.
Jackfrost80
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Not at this stage with my 5,7
Not at this stage with my 5,7 and 10y olds but half the school is now gone. There's the real possibility that I'll soon have to work from home along with the Mrs so we'll have to do that in shifts starting early morning and finishing late nights start if the kids are also home. A good problem to have compared to some at the moment.
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
Stevo81
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Holidays officially off?
Non-essential travel bans in wa set to be introduced in the couple of days according to latest press conference. No Easter holidays etc
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Stevo81
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Might be able to swing it if
Might be able to swing it if you have a house but rental accomodation in caravan parks etc won't be available by the sounds
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kirky79
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My 12 & 10 year old are
My 12 & 10 year old are still at school. Missus is a teacher and I run a landscape yard. Suppose I could have them here but we are flat out selling Vegie mix at the moment, nearly as busy as Spring. People getting jobs ready for lock down.
sea-kem
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Starting to feel the impact
Starting to feel the impact now, had the rug pulled from under my feet with a fairly decent job going on ice. No new enquiries so will probably run out of work within a fortnight.
Love the West!
D_d_001
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You and me both Andy. was
You and me both Andy. was feeling the effects a while ago.
My business now had to let go 5 casuals.
In last 2 weeks we now have X - 60% clients.
I Will probably pull the pin completely before the school holidays. With Govt grants I may be able to keep the business in hybernation (still paying rent and bills etc) and hope for a startup later in the year.
Hard to loose some good workers wish I could have done some more for them but hopefully have a place for them all at startup later.
Running for 15 years wiped out in two weeks
Stevo81
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Disaster....
Disaster....
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sea-kem
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Mate that's what I'm hoping
Mate that's what I'm hoping to do, freeze loans and just hibernate. Needs careful planning and thought, but I'm an eternal optomist.
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Simo_
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Would be good if the
Would be good if the government would tell us what the plan is to get out of this mess. I dont think they have any clue what they are doing... 2 weeks ago scomo was telling us to he was going to the rugby... then they let alll these infected people enter the country... next minute we are living in a police state.
Bring on April
Fathom
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Doomsday prepping
I might have miscalculated the amount of stored protein in my freezer that I might need. I need more and in my situation it would be safer launching the boat rather then going to the supermarket, got to keep distance from others launching/retreiving. Got fuel/bait going solo and I wont ping anyone :)....