Drilling close to Ningaloo approved
Submitted by tailor marc on Thu, 2011-07-07 14:15
Well here it is.....
Whats your opinions?
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heritage
didnt they heritage list the reef! bit of a in your face just goes to show the power of the mining v the govt!!
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Yeah they cant drill the reef
Yeah they cant drill the reef but they can drill near it
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The power of money must be
The power of money must be damm strong
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I bet they would never be
I bet they would never be allowed to do this near the barrier reef
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Gee that sucks
Gee that sucks
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marc and co... chevron have
marc and co... chevron have been there for quite a few years .with platforms visable" just" from the light house .can see them burning off the gas or what eva at night ......shell finally looks like thevye got a foot in the door ,..one of the only resources bar tourism keeping exxie on the map.i dont rate kalis as keeping exxie on the map but each to there own ... if you go a bit further north like onslow and up theres platforms every where... not saying its rigfht or wrong but i would like if its going to happen and it is ...to see a few more aussie companies getting involved and seeing quite a few more dollars put back into the local communities.not saying chev dont but know they could do more alot more
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gas is a bit different to oil
gas is a bit different to oil though. Gas leak there would be not as bad as a crude oil leak like what happend resently in the U.S .
Also one thing i have noticed in Karratha is the monster amouts of $$$ coming in there and nothing much coming into the communisty there. Houses, shops, roads , carparks are 10 times worse then perth. Just about need a 4wd to get into the carpark next to eagle boys haha
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One thing i do like about
One thing i do like about james price point, burrup etc is that they give alot of the aboriginals work. Good to see so many in karratha not short of a bob or 2
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Ahh, dont you love the media
If anything it should read gas and oil, but by changing them around its much more interesting and frightful. The areas up here are mostly gas and condensate. There isnt much oil so I suspect it media adding fuel to the fire.
There isnt much true oil here but the smaller tanks you see at NWshelf and Pluto is for Condensate, which has a value but is still a gas at room temp.
Natural gas condensate is a low-density mixture of hydrocarbon liquids that are present as gaseous components in the raw natural gas produced from many natural gas fields.
It condenses out of the raw gas if the temperature is reduced to below the hydrocarbon dew point temperature of the raw gas.
Not saying it is right or wrong, but you cant compare that with Oil rigs.
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i hate to burst your bubble
i hate to burst your bubble there Neels, but most if not all the facilities off NW cape are oil facilities, there would be SOME natural gas and condy but they are all there selling crude oil for export and using the gas to fual there power gen facilities onboard.
I have no problem with it though, the hoops they have have to go through just to drill let alone produce from those fields is bullshit huge, just another media build-up, frankly i'm sick of it and people looking at me dirty because i work in oil and gas.
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not all
North Rankin and Goodwyn A are among the oldest and biggest producing platforms with many wells connected.
They only have a gas pipeline and no offtakes.
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NRA and GWA are a fair way
NRA and GWA are a fair way away from Exmouth mate as i'm on NRA right now, discussion is about oil off the exmouth basin.
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if youve been there a while
if youd looked out ya window youd have seen us floating around you up until a few months back.
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Thanks Brucesta
As I mentioned below or above if someone knows fill us in. But I also have no problems with O7G at all, knowing the environmental ctiteria they have to fullfil is massive. So am I correct that NWS and Pluto , ie off Dampier, and Barrow is Das and condensate?
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Spot on Neels, 75% of all
Spot on Neels, 75% of all producing assets off Karratha are Gas and Condy with a little pil in there too but none of it brought to shore, down onslow way it's about 50/50 split with oil and gas and exmouth way is more oil than gas but it's still there just a little deep for easy producing and because they'd have none and buckly's chance of bringing any product onshore near exmouth and they'd have to pipe back towards onslow
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Pity I cant spell O&G and what is Das (Gas)
Thanks. I have to admit that I knew the stats around here having worked on Pluto, but I was not aware that Exxy area was different. Lesson learned. I couldnt imagine them ever having anything onshore for processing at Exxy, and Onslow and even Kcity is not that far away from piping it to established areas.
I know that it was a toss up between JPP and piping it down here and expanding Pluto. Wonder with all the protesting whether Woodside is regretting the decision, as I can see a long war over this one ahead. How do you construct a plant with all that Whoo Hah going on efficiently?
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Woodsides involvement in JPP
Woodsides involvement in JPP with the state government is a farce. None of the other partners in Browse, BHP, BP, Shell and Chevron have indicated any interest in developing James Price Point at any stage that Im aware of, its just another hangover of the arrogance of Don Volte the former CEO of Woodside.
Those partners are also partners in the current operating plant on the Burrup, not Pluto. There is also another partner, MIMI, which is a union of Tokyo gas and a few others in Japan. They all own an equal 16.6% share in the plant which is operated by Woodside. Financail sense would dictate piping the gas to the Burrup and leaving the Kimberley as it is.
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Cheers for clearing that up
Cheers for clearing that up Cransy.
So if they find condensate will that mean that they will biuld a gas plant there ?
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I doubt that
In that area they would probably use those pods, or pipe it to another facility. I cant see them doing a James Price anywhere near Exxy. However you never know.
I am sure some O&G workers might clarify the pods etc.
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i dout it due to the "
i dout it due to the " green its alright to find it but best we basicaly give it to a foriegn company to proccess via a huge boat then sell it back to us attitude" at ten times the price we gave it to them for IMO
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What would you lot above know
What would you lot above know about how much and what grade oil is being pumped.
It has been a production field for some time.
Never mind how "frugal" your outboard and towing vehicle is , you need an oil product for just about anything in today's society.
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hey yeah i was guessing and
hey yeah i was guessing and like you said what would i know. as far as oil grade goes
pppfffffff. oil ...gas i couldnt give 2 shits!!!!!!!!!! so without stating the obvious
what do you ?????????????
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Back off a little
I work in Kcity and do know a little.
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Back off a little??What for,
Back off a little??
What for, all posts above are uninformed guestimates.
So far your writtings are like a complete outsider, "standing on the beach and wonder".
You either know or you do NOT.
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If you are so clever inform us then
instead of sitting on the fence. As always some d#@k think others arent entitled to their view or opinion. As you say my post about the difference between Oil and condensate is a gestimate. I hate to tell you, but its fact.
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Nice one with personal
Nice one with personal insulting posts.
People who work there and do know, are also bound to cofidentiallity contract clauses.
So "revealing' it here is simply not an option, SAVE TO SAY that none of the posters above have got it anywhere near correct.
And that there has been, for a very long time, drilling and production platforms including large FPSO's operating in that gasfield not far of the coast of Exmouth.
We fly from learmont by chopper to these facilities in less than 1 hour.
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20 minutes actually :)
20 minutes actually :)
And confidentaility clauses is a bit rich mate, there is no secret what they are producing out there buddy, the confidential stuff is a little more detailed than what they pump out of the ground mate, 15 mins on Woodside's and BHP's sites and you'll find all you need to know about the FPSO's operating off NW Cape.
i'd copy and paste the links for the uneducated but just google it everyone and do yourselves a favour and get a feel of whats lurking off your coast, also look at Impex, Shell, Apache, Chevron and you'll see whats going on.
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I work in Kcity
Not directly in the Industry, but what I do I get a very fair knowledge of the in's and out. That comment was directed at you but also others that always slam the individual over their opinion. Correct it if you know better, like Brucesta did with me above in a nice way. Dont slam people, that just gets them offside.
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Wow,
I was part of the installation team that installed several of the said FPSO's, Subsea installations and riser turrets out of the exmouth gulf including (most notoriously) Enfield and Montara. I have never once signed a confidentiallity clause indicating I would not "reveal" what they pump out of the ground. I have however signed them to say that I will not directly give away technologies (Interlectual property). However anyone that has worked with an offshore O/G engineering department knows that almsot every rig of simmilar depths are identical.
This is not to say you dont have a point. Honestly I try not to get too involved in these conversations because most people have no clue what goes on in their back yards and are either too silly or lazy to find out. Reality is there is a hell of a lot of high grade oil being pumped out of the ground in Exmouth. Some of the fields (one I have mentioned above) have leaked already. However australia has very stringent testing systems before first oil. The said leak ment a massive change out and re-sealing (new and changed gasket systems with a different clamping system) opperations of all subsea assets.
I am going to go out on a limb here and say I honestly think what glastronomic was trying to say is that rumour mongering and media reports are regularly done by people less in the know then they should be. And that opinions are like a-holes everyone has one but as often as not it can pay to keep them to yourself as some discussions like this one can have negative influences. Increases in O/G and natural resource production is a very good thing for australia... the greens and general population whom fear for their back yards (not only up there think about Margs (O/G and the proposed open cut mine) or Vasse just outside of Busso) love to try to get in the way of these developments...without them we wouldnt have anywhere near the governmental income we currently have.
O/G and Natural resources are all that is keeping australia in the relativley stable financial position it is in. People say that they get nothing out of it but the reality is that while I was in O/G I spent thousands and thousands in Ktown that I wish now I had not, and I was far from alone in that. I also spent every cent I earnt, my spending that money meant someonbe else earned it... It does go around in one way or another.
Well Thats my 2 cents anyways...
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Not really worried about what
Not really worried about what they are pulling out of there exactly as long as they give me a job.
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Too right Dodgy I contract to
Too right Dodgy I contract to some of the companies that do all the sample drilling and cementing etc. Here's hoping they score a few big contracts out of this as it all flows on down the line to small business guys like me.
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agreed .plenty of local jobs
agreed .plenty of local jobs .back the shires in and dont spill to much shite into the enviro
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it should not matter about
it should not matter about giving you a job its about the ningaloo reef i see that you guys have never been to exy an seen how wonderful it is if they do have an oil spill like the usa exmouth will be stuffed......for one i love exmouth and i am planning my wedding up there next year in may and i dont want to see exy turn into a mining town and leave it how it is
ban shell from drilling oil and gas near exmouth as its one place in wa that i love going to and would like to leave it the way it is
People that are against it should all rally together to get this declined and let them drill somewhere else the reef is to awesome to loose if anything bad happens..
Just my opinion
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been there a few times mate
been there a few times mate and i too would hate to see it be damaged but thats progress buddy unfortunantly and my boat and landcruiser aren't gonna run off sunflower seeds so sometimes you have to take to good with the bad.
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spot on Hayden, couldnt of
spot on Hayden, couldnt of said it better
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hayden .theyve been drilling
hayden .theyve been drilling their for yonks my friend and flogging it to overseas companies for decades... just not shell.and no i dont wont to see a spill of any sort except maybee the froth off my beer. i have a vested interest as you do i basicaly call exxie my second home due to the fact i have a house there and i pay rates and some day sooner rather than later hope to retire there.
leave it how it is.. .have you noticed the boats coming into the mariner and the bigger boats moored out the front and the choppers overhead.its all oil and gas and hopfully jobs for locals who intend to make sure its done right not some foreign company who in my eyes would rather dirty up somone elses back yard ..bring in the locals to keep our own yard clean and safe....end of rant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Funny that I recently
Funny that I recently installed some excess burners to gantrys $10k a pop per burner (would be good for a bbq lol).Hayden How can you say I've never been to Exmouth when you don't even know me. I've actually travelled that area quite a bit and know what's at stake enviromentaly so don't say I don't know or care. Mitch said it right local companies do it better. It's mobs like Apache(Varanus) and the Thai company that had the Montara spill (btw they have lodged an application for a floating gas platform) that couldn't give a shit about our backyard. And why not get work out of it all, this state is built on resources if you haven't noticed.
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Thread on notice
Cmon Bert, no need for innuendo and subtle digs, keep it on topic please and play the subject and not the man.
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Quobba Drilled
Quobba was drilled [on land] and the ocean was serveyed for oil and gas back in the 80's.
What's wrong with another F.A.D.
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Confintiality clauses and
Confintiality clauses and reprecussions might be indeed a bit much for your earning capacity.
with comments like that your life needs well ...a life my friend
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sorry ads bit slow on the
sorry ads bit slow on the notice .
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Sorry My RS
It's only an opinion
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rankin and goodwyn
the amount of marine life on rankin and goodwyn is amazing. more fish life than you could poke a stick at. if anything new platforms and subsea infrastructure will create further habitat.
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Lets hope
Lets hope they don't find too much gas at EXXY or nearby or we might end up with another James Price Point situation. Exxy would make nice harbour/berth??
Scary thought.
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You won't get any natives
You won't get any natives protesting there.They won't go near the place. I heard the Kadaicha man pointed the bone at the place.
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Surely everyone has finally
Surely everyone has finally figured out that money trumps everything in this world.
The oil being drilled will just help the government get more money out of the carbon tax.
Money > Health.
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http://www.news.com.au/travel
http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/shell-drilling-permit-for-great-barrief-reef-approved/story-e6frfq80-1226090775753
This made me laugh, never trust the media people this is just riddled with mistakes it shouldn't have been published!
EDIT: they must have copped some crap over it especially with the drilling on the GBR and it has now been changed it seems.
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LMFAO
Well done Brucesta.
I took the liberty to forward this to Media Watch ABC.
Could be a laugh.
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Shell's Ningaloo plans may
Shell's Ningaloo plans may be appealed
http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/shells-ningaloo-plans-may-be-appealed/story-e6frg2r3-1226090871114
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Don't Know If This Helps.
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"You won't get any natives
"You won't get any natives protesting there.They won't go near the place. I heard the Kadaicha man pointed the bone at the place."
Tantabiddi, Exmouth has had a Tsunami; more than once....
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