Fisheries to Cull Whites in Dunsborough
Submitted by Seaquest on Tue, 2013-01-08 10:11
Coming in past Eagle bay on Sunday we saw a large fisheries boat dropping off large bouys about 1km from the beach.
Just found out from a friend at fisheries that they are baiting for three whites that have been hanging around the bay over the holidays.
With the amount of people down here at the moment and the sharks not moving on I think its a good call.
donteatfish
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I'd have to disagree
But then we'd be going over the same old argument who's ocean it is and who has more right to be it.
If you go in the ocean you're fair game, but that's just my opinion.
Mastacks101
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I agree if your in the ocean
I agree if your in the ocean your fair game....and the whites are in the ocean...
dumper
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Wise move considering the
Wise move considering the busso jetty swim is only a month away
opsrey
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Don't worry just yet....
I wouldn't get too worried that a Great White will be caught and destroyed. Remember the fisheries need to catch it first, and you know how hard it is to be good at something you don't really want to do. I'll back the Whites swimming away. :)
win win for everyone eh?
NOHA
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Doing it wrong
Put out a price of say 50 grand to catch and keep a Great White and watch all the offers come in. Remove one or two sharks and put the money into research
There is still plenty of people with money who would pay to catch a GW
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Perry Home
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Surfed at Boneyards on Sunday - Shark in Eagle Bay
My son and I surfed at Boneyards in Bunker's Bay on Sunday ( onshore putz) but we'd driven for an hour so decided to do some exercise. Overcast with the Thunderstorms hanging around. The helicopter flew over us twice and the water was clear - no dramas. Got home later that day and read the West's report.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa/15770069/shark-sightings-close-beaches/
Essentially we were on the other side of the Rocky Point headland and although a reasonable distance it still makes you think.
Having talked with Lauren Macaulay( Ranked 29th in the Women's World Surfing Tour) at a Sports Function recently - apparently the Helicopter circles overhead when a shark is nearby and sounds a siren to warn water users of the impending danger. My question would be - when does the Copter crew say yeah that close enough lets warn these people?
BTW - a recent study conducted shows that aerial spotting using planes is less effective 12.5% to helicopters 17.5% - thats to be expected - but realistically neither is that successful. Article below
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/national/15767353/shark-spotting-hit-and-miss-nsw-study/
So how good will the Barnett Shark Tower be in the arvo at Cott beach once its erected and the folks on duty will be looking into the sun?
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/15768121/govt-funds-shark-spotting-tower/
I think it's time to "Polaroid Up!"
keg
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it`s time
they are definately not endangered anymore.time to give a few people a set quota and get rid of a few of them.
marrisy
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Bremer bay
A few down here at the moment, your welcome to take them to Dunsborough if you want.
WSHN4FSHN
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Is a few less GW's on the
Is a few less GW's on the WA coast really that much of a problem? Why are they any different to any other fish we catch? Obviously they are protected but that aside, why do they deserve the seemingly endless one-eyed support from so many people? They KILL HUMANS, and human life should always be more highly valued than any animal regardless of why they kill and where. I'm not looking for a fight I just struggle to understand some poeples priorities. JMO.
Burley it and they will come.
donteatfish
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Out of interest...
human life should always be more highly valued than any animal regardless of why they kill and where
Why's that??
Just think of the amount of sharks needlessly killed each year, paybacks a bitch as they say.
My priority would be not harm a species that there isn't 100% true data of how many of them are actually out there. You start culling them, you might adversely affect thir numbers.
We know theres 2.1 million+ in W.A, if a few meet their untimely demise, it's not really putting a dent in our populaion is it?
WSHN4FSHN
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Ok.
I was going to ask whether or not you were an animal libber as your handle and previous comments suggest but i'm confident you have answered my question. It makes me laugh that you would sign up to a forum where people love fishing, hunting etc to spread your wisdom and show us the "light". You won't get an argument from me that terrible things have been done to sharks, fish, all animals for that matter by humans all over the world. However being happy to thin out the population a little for shark bait as justifyable payback is just a typical sadistic mentality of the common tree hugger!! Your lack of humanity is as warm as the weather!! You and I will never agree and this discussion could last a lifetime with the lack of grounding and common sense that you more than likely possess, but you are clearly in the wrong place on this forum. I have had too much experience with people like you in the past and for the sake of not wanting to hijack this thread or make it personal any more than I have, I will leave it there.
Burley it and they will come.
donteatfish
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Thanks for the rant, but.....
You didn't actually answer my question regarding human life being more important during your rant though did ya?
It's common sense though. Theres a fair amount of sharks in coatal waters at the moment, common sense may prevail and people don't go in the water because they may get eaten. If they choose to go in the water it becomes an associated risk. There's probably more chance of someone drowning, but people still go the beach day, in day out.
I wasn't trying to show everyone the "light", I was expressing an opinion, that's what an internet forum is for. Look at the previous poll, more people where against culling, than for.
This is a recreational fishing website where the members hopefully fish to their limits and support "fishing for the future". As far as I knew Great Whites where protected and some muppets over here have decided that they're now fair game.
The ocean is theirs, what you cavemen need to understand is we don't have a divine right to enjoy the ocean because we live right next to it. We can enjoy it, but we should know the risks involved.
red dawn
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talking about the value of life
You're asking why a human life is always of more value than an animal. I think most of us would hold to that idea if a choice had to be made. I wonder in which situation you would choose an animal's life over a human?
Buz
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Depends on how much value you
Depends on how much value you see in said humans life. Personal decision i guess.
donteatfish
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Agreed
I'm sure if W.A's worst Pedophile or Rapist got done by a shark, there wouldn't be a huge community outcry.
red dawn
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interesting scenario
and I'm sure you're right about not much public concern. But I'd have to say that if such a person was being attacked by a shark and I was there and to save him (or her) I would have to kill the shark, I would think that my conscience would be very hard on me if I stood by and did nothing.
scotto
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about time
a very good move in my opinion.
I think it would be a better idea to have a few baited lines/drums in the chopper. spot the offending shark, drop a bait on his head, radio in the coordinates, and then send the boat to track it down, winch it in, and finish it off.
beau
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Or just winch it out of the
Or just winch it out of the water with the chopper :)
Swompa
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How do they determine if a
How do they determine if a species is still in need of protection?
I agree with the Pay $X amount and have a go at catching one, with a quota of course.
chris raff
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I'll believe it when i see
I'll believe it when i see it...wonder if the full on greenies will put themselves between the bouys and the cute GWs in protest
“Intelligence is like a four-wheel drive. It only allows you to get stuck in more remote places.”
Perry Home
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Chris - you beauty!
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Buz
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I am guessing if it really
I am guessing if it really came down to it, they might like the whales have small boats and just go and drive around the bouys to 'scare' any Sharks away from them. Or sabotage any set drum lines.
Jorie
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i agree some should be
i agree some should be killed anything say over 4 metre im length but i also agree with a quota on how many they shouldd be aloud to kill... my opinion anyway.
BOOMER
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With a bit of luck the
With a bit of luck the greenys will tie them selves to the bouys and splash around a little bit.
Big hook,
Big bait,
BIG FISH !!!!!
jettyrat
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Don't Agree
Another reason not to vote for the Barnett government. They introduce marine parks to protect marine diversity and now they are going to kill the apex predators that are enlisted as endangered.
Swompa
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Gives me more reason to vote
Gives me more reason to vote for Col, + wasn't it labour and the greens that introduced the marine parks?
Seaquest
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Just received an email from
Just received an email from fisheries about the action beening taken and why. There have been over 20 seperate confirmed sightings in the area since xmas. Just about every day that the vis was OK they have spotted 3m+ sharks, most sightings are from the SLSWA.
A 3m white was only spotted this morning at 8.30am in eagle bay. Amazing no one has been attacked yet with so many people in the water swimming and so many shark sightings.
snappermiles
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its about time
i have never seen such schools of sharks and big sharks as i have done of late! its about time they open up a few commercial licenses for catching sharks in the metro area too not nets just line fishing! the shark population is becoming similar to that of exmouth!
ALL FISHERMEN ARE LIARS EXCEPT YOU AND ME! AND IM NOT SO SURE ABOUT YOU!
meglodon
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how blind are those that don't want to see
This site held a survey on the question of to kill great whites or not, the result of the survey was clearly a great majority of people did not want to see great white killed and butchered.
Lets stop all the use of nice non offencive words like cull, what we are talking about is catching and killing then no doubt butchering the apex preditor on oiur coast, i can see the headlines now, look at the killing jaws of that nasty great white caught of whatever beach.
Now before all and sundry jump up and down let me be clear I am not a tree huging greenie or a rabid conservationist what i am is a fisherman who would like to see a sound science based decission made on the population of great whites before we start killing them because they swam into an area we didn't like them to be in.
As for the value of the human life of course it is the most importat thing to considered, but hey lets try and keep our lust for the sight of a large set of jaws hanging up on desplay some where under control.
rant over
scotto
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.
do you know where I can get a set of these jaws youre talking about?
Buz
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Whale World in Albany used to
Whale World in Albany used to have some big sets on Display. Though obviously not for sale.
Perry Home
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Megladon- see Seaquest's post
I quote " Just received an email from fisheries about the action beening taken and why. There have been over 20 seperate confirmed sightings in the area since xmas. Just about every day that the vis was OK they have spotted 3m+ sharks, most sightings are from the SLSWA."
Quote from Shark Spotting Hit & Miss: NSW Study
"
The world-first study by the NSW Department of of Primary Industries was based on a trial at Jervis Bay on the NSW south coast, using artificial sharks placed at various depths, Fairfax reported on Saturday.
It found plane crews spotted just 12.5 per cent of the dummies and helicopters detected 17.1 per cent."
It is a helicopter that flies over this area of the coast. I've been surfing Bunker's Bay solidly (2 to 3 times per week) for the last two months and have watched him making his coastal passes whilst out in the water.
I guess my point is: 20 sightings by the helicopter @ 17.1% since Christmas 2012. Extrapilate that by approximately 5 would mean the possibility of 100 sightings since Xmas 2012. Mind you how many sightings can be attributed to 1 shark, and what constitutes a sighting. " Oh look there's a shark! ( sighting 1), I can t see him/ her now". 30 seconds later "Oh there he is again I ve just spotted him" ( sighting 2 ) surely there is a set of parameters that determine separate sightings - that would assist in this discussion.
Seaquest
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The 20 plus sightings are all
The 20 plus sightings are all at different times and locations and the majority are confirmed by DOF or SLSWA. The list is pretty detailed about the sightings. Would love to post the email that was sent to fisheries staff its a great read but I don't think it's my place to do so and don't won't to put my friend in the shit. I would say that there has been a lot more sightings by the public that haven't be reported or confirmed.
People have to realise that this isn't one shark that was spotted for 5 minutes and moved on its a few whites that aren't going anywhere and are getting seen everyday in very heavily populated swimming beaches most of which are used by young kids swimming on the protected side of the bay.
Buz
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:) I think for alot of people
:)
I think for alot of people their own opinions on certain subjects are are probably the only things they have that make them feel important, or smart, or influential or whatever . I know there are times i get carried away with some of my views, opinions and comments, and then get shot down from them, as i probably will here :P
If you are for Great Whites being culled/caught/butchered or whatever you want to call it, just write to fisheries, your local MP or whatever and let them know. I am sure if enough letters reach the right agencies/authorities they might listen to you. Same if you are against killing of Great Whites, write some letters.
Because no matter how many opinions or comments you post on public forums and social media, or how many people you try to 'educate' to your way of thinking, people will have their own view on the subject and it is neither right or wrong. Its just their view. And no amount of votes, or polls, or people telling whatever on forums/internet is going to change that.
If you are a knuckledragging stone thrower that wants all big Great Whites Killed, fine, i am sure nothing anyone says is going to change that.
Likewise of you are a tree hugging, bong smoking, non showering hippy that doesnt want them killed i reckon no one is going to change your stance either.
***Note these are just two sterotypes that many people seem to like to throw around, but the reality is most people(and most FWrecked members) are probably as 'normal' as you can get , but will still probably be just as divided about any controverstial subject.
Just out of interest me and another FWrecked member were close in around Eagle Bay/Rocky Point on the Sunday morning too about 8-9am(Waiting for the storm front to pass to get around the Cape) and we saw the Chopper hovering around and the Fisheries Boat Out and about. Kind of assumed it must have been GW's they were following. Saw the Chopper first hovering for a while at the West Point of Meelup then around East end of Rocky Point then would go further around into Bunkers out of View. We werent really fishing so no burley in the water, but didnt have any come up to say hello.
Whatever Fisheries do, as long as its the right decision on the day, i guess its the best thing to do.
NOHA
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Interesting fact on human behaviour
If it happens to someone we dont know..we dont really care
If it happens to someone who knew the risks..we dont really care
If it happens to innocent kids..suddenly we care
Just like the shootings of primary schoolers in the USA..public outcry
When a kid gets taken all the lounge room greenies will change their tune.
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Buz
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Kind of agree too, but i also
Kind of agree too, but i also think its a proximity thing.
How close the incident is to us geographically, or emotionally.
Some talk about the value of human life, but i think most people dont really give a shit about the real value of all human life. Just about the value of their life, their familys, their firends, people they know etc. Or if the threat that is posed to these people is geographically close to them.
Wonder how many people here campaign against the 1000's of deaths that go on in Third World Nations every year due to simple things such as lack of clean water! But its easy just to turn the channel when we see that sort of stuff on TV or turn the page when we see it in the paper. So much more important when its something that could affect us close to home.
Much easier to be concerned with a few deaths and threats to humans we know live's close to home (that are realistically statistically very low to happen), than the 100's of 1000's of deaths overseas from many other inhuman, horrible and pointless reasons.
Like i said, the value of human life? Well seems like its a convienence thing. We choose to worry about it when it suits us.
TheJettyRat
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I hate it when people use "
I hate it when people use " think of the children" to push their agenda. If there is a shark in the area don't let your kids swim in that area, it is common sense and logic. In this particular case though I think fisheries should do what they think is best but I im generally against the killing GW's except in extreeme circumstances and only when it is absolutly necessary.
meglodon
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I respect the views of Perry,Buz and NOHA
after reading all of the above posts on the matter of great whites i believe that the last line in Buz's post is the most common sence approach, the johnny on the spot has to make a call and he makes that call without the benifit of an arm chair review and hind sight.I'm passionate about my belief on the great white question but I'm also old enough to understand that some one has to do something in a moment of perceived danger, same as the poor coppers have to they will be damned if they do damned if they don't.
Thanks to all for their posts and their views
Howard George
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C'mon Fellows.
This has got nothing to do with saving lives but is about the local business's that have been complaining about the downturn in revenue that the sharks have created. One day we have a shark missing a pectoral fin swimming around and the next day a completely different shark in the vicinity and fisheries are after any shark they can find to satisfy the whims of the business community, their main supporter base in this region. If a shark attacks a swimmer by all means take it out but not simply because it's in the vicinity.I just can't believe this is the lowest of lows this government and the fisheries dept. has degenerated into.All credability completely blown out of the water when they claim to be protecting marine biodiversity with the State marine parks that they've put in place down here.
Seaquest
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Down turn in revenue? Where
Down turn in revenue? Where have you been hiding the last few weeks. I have never seen it so busy down here.
Versus
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gold
gold
MattMiller
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Totally agree
with the madness of Xmas holiday makers and the sillyness of Southbound it's been busy as hell and can't wait for them to go home
Buz
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Gotta love all the wildlife
Gotta love all the wildlife Southbound brings in :P
Howard George
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caravan Parks
I live opposite a caravan park and there's empty bays everywhere here in Busso. with the vacancy sign on the side of the road a clear indication that the numbers are down seaquest and sure while Southbound is on theres a few more people around but I keep thinking that if the Bunker Bay beach Resort was not there how much attention would the sharks around there draw.
MattMiller
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Or
the fact that it is the site of one of the fatal shark attacks???????
Lamby
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That's interesting with Busso
That's interesting with Busso Howard, I can only comment for Dunsborough mate & there appears no downturn in tourism this season & in fact seemed busier than the last two years
Buz
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Not to sure about down in
Not to sure about down in Busso, but i know Dive stores in Perth i have spoken too have noticed a marked decrease in people doing dive courses and hiring gear over the last year. Though one could also argue that its the same case with alot of retail businesses has seen a downturn in sales as people are becoming more wise with how they spend their excess money in the same period? Same with the local tourism industry.
Howard George
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It's The same down here BUZ.
The newspapers down here in Busso. are full of it how Dive operators are feeling the pinch because of the sharks and some of the big tourist resorts have a yearly occupancy rate of just 41% and they need to be about 60% to be profitable and thats why I'm somewhat sceptical about the motivation behind this kill order.
Paul_86
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Just seen on channel 9 news
Just seen on channel 9 news that fisheries have already deployed baited hooks, so like it or not it's happening! Be interesting to see if they catch one
damo6230
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Poor management
Knee jerk reaction based on ignorant public, over zealous media and wanabe politicians
You have a far less statistical chance of being taken by a shark than other activities in life, fishing kills more people than sharks
But then again if you can kill sharks cause they kill then it's a free license to kill drivers who kill indescrimently, sign me up
Ben85
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Well if they do manage to
Well if they do manage to catch one (and they will) let’s hope they don’t bring them to land in view of the media. best they simply tow them out to sea and dispose of them. Imagine what the media is going to make out of this. no doubt the news choppers will be out following the fisheries boats in the morning where the buoys are located.
I wonder if fisheries have enlisted Australia’s most ”fearsome” shark hunter from QLD – Vic Hislop? I bet he would be chomping at the bit to get out there in his Shark Cat to slay a few whites!
sea-kem
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I'd love to see that idiot
I'd love to see that idiot fall in the water with a pissed off one he had hooked.
Love the West!
JohnF
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Red Kneck alert......
Red Kneck alert......
Boston Whaler 235 Conquest......getting the flogging it was built for.
Perry Home
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Next we'll have Sharks driving Cars!
Nice Troll!
Recipe for disaster
Take 20 sightings since Christmas day around the protected northern beaches of Cape Nat to Dunsborough - with masses of people namely holidaymakers about & some warm weather.
Add no action and what have you got - the very real opportunity witness another fatality. Whether you/ we like it or not the government with advice from their professionals has decided to act.
BTW - its currently double demerit points!
cuthbad
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So I guess we cant really
So I guess we cant really complain about the Japanese whaling anymore then......
br3nno
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great whites
Human life is far more important than a sharks. With that said they need to be protected, but when individuals(great whites) regularly patrol popular beaches, bays etc it is more than reasonable to have these sharks hunted and either killed or tagged.
BC
sarcasm0
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Great White Shark Capture/Kill Suspended
Hey guys,
I know im kind of late on the bus for this one, I was busy all day yesterday.
I was driving to work yesterday morning at 6:35ish on triple J, the news said that the shark capture/kill order had been suspended as the baits had been out and not caught. Straight away I was thinking 'WTF' I didnt even know the order had been authorised. But when I go to http://www.sharkalarm.com.au/ the news page has this from the ABC.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-07/shark-kill-order/4455774
Shark kill order suspendedPosted Mon Jan 7, 2013 8:14pm AEDT
Did anyone hear anything over the weekend about them baiting in the area?
What are peoples thoughts on wanting to know that fisheries would be in the area attempting to catch large sharks on baited lines?
Howard George
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Yeah SarcasmO
The original kill order was suspended after fisheries were unable to catch a shark and the longer you leave the baits in the water the possability of more sharks being atracted to an area is a prob. but a new kill order was put in place overnight 8th - 9th Jan after a shark was sighted yesterday in Eagle Bay. We are now waiting for information about last nights attempt.
bod
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Tiger Shark
Just heard on 720 they caught a 1.8 metre Tiger and released it.
dumper
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Kill them Both I say
Kill them Both I say
meglodon
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what a ripper of a post
now that is got to be the best posting i have seen for a long long time
Lastchance
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Agreed Meglodon, if not ever.
Agreed Meglodon, if not ever. Shame its not that pricks head in the bag found at Rotto.
syddie
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what threat?
Just a question... with the number of shark sightings over the summer on our local beaches, just exactly how many people have been taken?
considering the poor spotting statistics of planes and helicopters, I think we could multiply the number of potential sharks in the vicinity, yet no attacks.
Where is the threat?
we all take a risk on the roads etc. we also take a risk entering the water.
Just a thought.
regards
Ken
opsrey
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Ha Ha Ha Ha......
Shit it's a good laugh reading all of the posts. I appreciate the effort and considered thoughts and opinions. A very good start to the year, my cheeks ache from smiling.
So as long as our arses point to the ground when we walk - no GW will be culled, killed or otherwise hurt by an order of Goverment.
The Greenies can stay dry, the Fisheries workers won't strain anything, Ch7 will have to look else where for a feature.
Perhaps we should use some of this bait on our hooks - everyone is on the bite over this subject.
Relax, no GW will die :). It's all a show
Quick, get the baits out of the water, a shark may eat it. Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha. - I'm gunna piss in my pants.
Swompa
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Some of the comments on
Some of the comments on Sharkalarm (on facebook) are a bit shocking to be honest.
dumper
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And your point being??
And your point being??
Swompa
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You dont think that "your the
You dont think that "your the sort of fuck face I'd knock the fuck out" is a bit over the top?
dumper
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Mate, That's Facebook for
Mate, That's Facebook for ya. There's a lot worse said out there. Besides a lot of people that argue on that site don't even live in Australia, Let alone the southwest
sea-kem
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Hey mate you obviously
Hey mate you obviously haven't been on here for long so why don't you save the offensive garbage you are writing for face book of the face of whoever it is you are bagging.
Love the West!
Swompa
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Not me writing, and not
Not me writing, and not written to me but you clearly missed the point.
sea-kem
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But do you really think it
Fair enough.But do you really think it needs to put on here?
Love the West!
sea-kem
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My opinion, don't agree with
My opinion, don't agree with a cull but if they are proven to be hanging around a certain area then kill em. Surely there's some commercial viabillity for this?
Love the West!
Fish guts
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Agreed and agreed
Agreed and agreed
All men are equal before fish....
Georgejungle
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Date Joined: 25/03/09
Just polishing up my shotgun
Just polishing up my shotgun for the open slather to start, Do you reckon whaling will open up again soon ?. I miss the blubber sandwiches . Fisheries couldn't catch herpes no shark will be killed weather they have the green light or not.
harro
Posts: 1959
Date Joined: 07/02/08
monday eagle bay GW
on monday arvo ex came and picked up kids to take em for a swim,
they went to eagle bay but more the southern side of point piquet, we snorkelled there a week ago, any way the chopper came over them, circled around and raised its sirens , dropping low , they all got out, and went to meelup as soon as they got there the shark had appeared there also, coming in very close apparently, and the lifesavers there whistled everyone to get out,
its definately getting crazy, even had jaws on tv the other night hahaha,
it was on news down here, and my son said the media had said it was the shark that has killed 5 people,?? , and they were hunting it, WOW WTF !!! lived down here nearly 18yrs and its never been like this, mate also sent me his footage from weekend on phone, big white being very curious, scraping his body under the hull twice, pretty kool vid,
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6130jason
Posts: 17
Date Joined: 18/11/12
Just a Thought
How do the fisheries know that if they happen to catch a GW it will be the same one that has been hanging around.
Rather than just culling a 3-4 meter GWS , why dont they fish , catch & tag any GWS they can. Satelite track them & if & only if then
there is a particul one that is hanging around then cull it . I have been living in the southwest all of my life & have never seen as many
sharks as there are now . But in saying that I dont think they should just cull randomly .
Lets face it seal & fish numbers are up in the south west cape area & geograph bay so this would be attracting them to this region.
Im not a tree hugger , I love fishing & shooting but I think there has to be a better way about doing this .
Just my thought .......
Paul H
Posts: 2104
Date Joined: 18/01/07
Meanwhile in Adelaide you
Meanwhile in Adelaide you can't use any hook from metro with a gape wider (point to hook shank) than 18mm and no wire from 6am to 9pm because the bait may attract sharks. But I can put half a tuna in a crab net and hang it off the jetty - Go figure!!
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MattMiller
Posts: 4171
Date Joined: 15/06/09
Has anyone considered
if they put out say 6 set lines and they catch 6 3m+ GW's? Possible....
6130jason
Posts: 17
Date Joined: 18/11/12
exactly my point .....
Exactly Matt , I just think there is a better way of going about it . Rather than set line catch & detroy any GWS around the 3 - 4 meter mark.
Then the following day its back in eagle bay again . Catch , tag & track will give a better picture of what is going on.
MattMiller
Posts: 4171
Date Joined: 15/06/09
Yeah,
but i'm personally not against a controlled cull but don't want to get into that argument
Lastchance
Posts: 1272
Date Joined: 02/02/09
Tagging is the way to go -
Tagging is the way to go - just normal IGFA Shark Tags. $X for the angler that can tag the most GW's in a calender year, $X for second etc, all of course put up by Uncle Gov.
This will (may) result in 3 things -
1. Greens (That currently run the country) will be less pissed off along with the media believers in the community
2. The sharks will not be as keen to eat everything in their path as some of it has given them issues and some painful jewellery
3. As with all tagging exercises/programmes - there will be incidental casualties to the shark population - not all will survive
Everyone will win.
Thats what I reckon anyway.
6130jason
Posts: 17
Date Joined: 18/11/12
Agree
I do agree with controlled culling , the numbers seem to be getting out of control .
I would like to see the right ones culled rather than random GWS.
meglodon
Posts: 5981
Date Joined: 17/06/10
with all the sharks at exmouth
we all know that the sharks are as thick as the flies at exmouth yet a hell of a lot of people still go swiming there with no chopper patrol overhead, point im trying to make is just how many sharks of all types are we swiming with and don't know it
MattMiller
Posts: 4171
Date Joined: 15/06/09
What about
the other 10 months of the year that half the population of Perth isn't down here, where are the choppers and Lifesavers then???
Not here that's for sure, but the Sharks still are
sea-kem
Posts: 14890
Date Joined: 30/11/09
Hey Matt I think you need to
Hey Matt I think you need to get over the fact that you live in a holiday town. It pisses me off what shit the rentals do and leave at my holiday place but it's fact of life. No choppers and lifesavers up here at all. You swim and get eaten bad luck.At least something is being done down your way.
Love the West!
Samo76
Posts: 63
Date Joined: 17/08/08
Spot on seakem, seems every
Spot on seakem, seems every second post mm has to mention hes a "down south local"
Here I am...and there you are.
fishy fingers
Posts: 1719
Date Joined: 28/04/07
Thats right
and the tourists that keep his town going are not welcome ( he has said as much before)
MattMiller
Posts: 4171
Date Joined: 15/06/09
It's not
'tourists' that are not welcome it's 'boneheads'
It's obvious the point I was trying to make was missed so lets just move on...
sea-kem
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Date Joined: 30/11/09
So half the population of
So half the population of Perth are bone heads the rest are Fishwrecked members? Like your thinking Matt ;)
Love the West!
MattMiller
Posts: 4171
Date Joined: 15/06/09
Probably
not too far from the truth