Ford Everest VS Pajero or alikes

Hey Crew 

Long time lurker , first time poster . 

Some of you may know me I used to manage Oceanside 2 years ago.

Just wondering if any of the crew have either vehicles 2017-2018 Models and can give me some pro's and con's. 

Would love a Landcruiser but dont have an exra 100k ha.

Thanks in advanced. 

 


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Fri, 2018-08-17 11:54

 I had an Everest as a loaner when my car went into Ford for a couple of days, I liked it a fair bit. Didn’t take it off road so can’t say much about that, and compared with the Prados I drive up north, I felt the Prado is a bit better built. But nonetheless,  the Everest is nice drive and the motor is pretty sweet, the same as in the Ranger as it shares the same chassis and drive line.

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 Ive been looking at the

Fri, 2018-08-17 12:24

 Ive been looking at the Everest also, but the price aint no where near $100K difference!
Its somewhere halfway + between a LC and the other vehicles in its section such as MUX and Colorado 7

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 Yeh I did see that they were

Fri, 2018-08-17 13:40

 Yeh I did see that they were built of the ranger and I have a ranger ute for work which performs bloody good. 

I am hoping someone has some comments on it in regards to Off road and Towing . 

My uses will mainly be a bit of beach bit of offroad nothing ridiculous though. 

Price and value or a product is everything these days . 

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 I've heard good reports

Fri, 2018-08-17 17:28

 I've heard good reports regarding the Isuzu MUX

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Fri, 2018-08-17 20:02

 Don’t know if you’ve seen this, this review is for the titanium but the one I drove was the trend, but was still a full time 4WD.

 

https://www.carsguide.com.au/adventure/ford-everest-off-road-68842?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=paidsocial&utm_campaign=fordadventure
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Everest is crappola and will

Fri, 2018-08-17 20:36

Everest is crappola and will cost you plenty in fuel. Mate’s Pajero is a much better bus (and won’t catch fire at the traffic lights like the Everest has done even mid a wheels car mag review...sorry couldn’t help that comment and sure they’ve fixed that issue but they really are just shit).

I know not on your list but MUX is a good bus especially for the money, and a couple of year older Prado is an even better option IMO.

been off road in both, but only on beach - both were okay. 

Just be aware a Pajero is not always a Pajero- pretty sure there’s a full sized version and smaller cheaper version.

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I would

Fri, 2018-08-17 22:42

Buy a prado 

 

 

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 I recently hired a brand

Mon, 2018-08-20 18:27

 I recently hired a brand spanker Prado, what a beast of a car. Toyota certainly do it right, but it told me off when I'd driven for over 7 hrs lol. Very good on the sand, once again if I had the coin I'd consider one of these.

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 I drive a 2018 Ranger and

Sat, 2018-08-18 07:20

 I drive a 2018 Ranger and had a 2016 before that. Awesome ute and great off road. The Everest is just a Ranger wagon so I'm guessing would be good off road also. I tow some pretty heavily loaded trailers and it tows well also. If you're mostly doing beach work I'm sure it would be fine. I've bee in and out of Yeagarup and Calcup numerous times no worries and beach launch my boat all the time at my local beaches.

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  Pajero- We hired this

Sat, 2018-08-18 08:13

  Pajero- We hired this Pajero to drive the Gibb River Rd,had no choice of vehicle when you picked up from Depot.

 But I was really impressed the way the Pajero handled the condition,from water crossings to very badly corrugatted/rutted tracks/4wd climbs to see some of the most stunning sunsets.

 Travelled comfortable on all roads.  Three Thousand K's travelled around Kimberleys and couldn't fault it!

 

 

  

 

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Pajero

Sat, 2018-08-18 08:45

 

I have a 2018 Pajero Exceed, all I can say is I am very happy with my purchase, 

This thing is just goes wherever you want it too, does what all the more expensive 4X4 do and then some.

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Pajero

Sat, 2018-08-18 12:55

I have an old Pajero - inherited from the folks when they upgraded. They are great all rounders and will tow well and handle most offroad tracks with ease (only when you want to start getting into areas where you need alot of wheel travel they will lack). Best to get some airbags in the back if you're going to be moving a bit of weight - the IRS tend to suffer with bad wheel camber when loaded as the wheels do this /-\.

 

Another option a few folks on here have gone for in lieu of a 200 is a Grand Cherokee - I know a few people with them and they have performed very well without issues too (don't let the jeep badge tarnish them too much).

 

Wouldn't touch a Ford but that's just me. 

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 Can only speak for Pajero

Sat, 2018-08-18 13:24

 Can only speak for Pajero but as value for money unbeatable. Got just over 47k new drive away 6 months ago! Had petrol one previously and would never go back after diesel this one. 

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 The father in law said the

Mon, 2018-08-20 08:32

 The father in law said the same Jsmolly, I think next step is to go test drive the in laws new jaero and go for a run in the Everest. I like the everest because i have a ranger ute for work and it drives perfect and is quite grunty. Of the to dealerships I go haha.

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cannot beat the everest

Mon, 2018-08-20 16:45

 

 we have the 2018 trend everest,

apart from tiny little things this SUV is a beast , we are slowly doing it up but we love it and by far the best 4wd SUV ive had and driven.,

i also have an xlt 2012 ranger 3L diesel, pretty good too and reliable , and i have had a 100,s landcruiser 

go the everest trend, dont bother with titanium, why pay extra $20odd k for LED lighting inside and heated seats and chrome handles 

the trend is the go...

no comparison, plus it is rated the best 4wd for 3 yrs running now 

good luck

not sure where your based mate but nuford in wangara is the go 

i can give you a good contact they will look after you $$$ wise especially with extras etc 

we picked up a few tips and tricks and saved alot of money 

 plus hahah dont you think the new pajero looks like a sad clown face from behind hahahahah

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Sad Clown Face

Mon, 2018-08-20 21:14

 

Hey Harro

Is that because your 2018 Trend Everest can't keep up and you are always looking at the back of the Pajero?

 

 

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haha skull

Tue, 2018-08-21 21:24

 

hahaha well no mate, its because every time i see one of them weird fucking looking cars i think sad clown face it reminds me of "IT" lol

 

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I recently picked up a

Mon, 2018-08-20 21:37

I recently picked up a 10month old Paj with 18k for $39k. It’s no 200 series but 99% of the time it is just as good and comfy and get me to 95% of the same places for $45k less.

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 Cheers for response fellas ,

Tue, 2018-08-21 09:33

 Cheers for response fellas , I totally agree with value for money with both the Pajero and Everest. The landcruiser are a great vehicle but you are still paying 40k for something that has done 200k bloody ridiculous.

I know it all comes down to pricing and performances but I just think the Everest looks way beastier than the Pajero to. And I agree Harro the back is average and looks very plastic fantastic.

Ill have a chat to the bank manager ( missus ) and make a decision from there.

My bro in law used to own a pajero one and he had the moto "Paj gets the Vag" haha. 

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Paj gets the vag

Tue, 2018-08-21 12:31

 Haha, that is funny, never heard that before 

  • The reputed meaning of "Pajero" in Spanish seems at odds with that
  • your BIL's vag could be your sister haha
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 Don't confuse the "pajero"

Tue, 2018-08-21 10:17

 Don't confuse the "pajero" and the "Pajero Sport". Pajero Sport is built off the Triton Platform, or a rebadged "Challanger". NT (2010) Pajeros and onwards had the DPF removed (I think.. do your own reasearch here) and are a great weekend warrior. I've owned my NT for 4 years now and its been all around WA towing the boat. My only issue is that they don't come with a long range fuel tank as standard.

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DPF

Tue, 2018-08-21 12:55

Pretty sure the dpf came back in for the NX pajeros but better managed 

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I owned an NP Paj for 5 years

Tue, 2018-08-21 19:11

I owned an NP Paj for 5 years which accrued 270k km and no reportable faults. However when I came to replace a couple of years ago i wanted something different and looked over many different marques, including the Everests, Patrol (Y61 and Y62), Prado 150 series, MUX, heres my two cents:

Prado's are a good unit, but ~$15-18k more expensive for a comparison model Pajero. My former offsider a work had a 150 series and thus I spent a lot of time in that. Have a look on the Prado forums and theres a host of endemic issues with 120 and 150 series and the new ones are suffering badly from dust ingress in air filters. the latest 2.8l engines are also pretty awkward to drive, peak torque comes in at 2600rpm so not very useful at all. the old 3.0l donk was ok but down on both torque and power compared to the Paj and Everest (~20% lower from recollection). So as muych as the live axle rear is handy the grunt from the others will get you further in sand and theres a factory rear locker on all Paj's. the 180l tank is incredible though (as long as you dont get a VX etc with the split rear as the spare occupies the subtank space). I should add theyre well mannered on road and quieter than the Paj's.

MUX at the time of my purchase it was 5 speed and 127kw and 330Nm now they've dropped in a six speed box and more torque its a better overall package. One of my mates has the older model and its great in that guise, but I couldnt live with how small they are. Note the MUX may have a shared engine with the colorado but they are very different motors and not really comparable - Isuzu know how to make light trucks, holden.....erm...?

Patrols - Y62 - thirsty, Y61 great but agridultural and I dont like the third row.

Everest - very expensive again and similarly compact to the MUX. Oddly derated from the 147kw of the Ranger but still a good all round 5 pot engine thats been available for a long time, best on road performance of the above (with the exception of the Y62).

I settled on the Paj and got a brand new GLX (couldnt cope with the electric seats in the VX) in March 2016 paid $46k (whereas equivalent spec'd Prado's were $61k and Everest's somewhere in between). I threw approximately $7-8k at off road gear with an ARB bar, good spotties a 2"lift, AT tyres and a few other bits and still way cheaper than anything I could see. 5 year warranty (Toyota still not confident to offer more than 3), 12 month service intervals (150 series were 6 monthly, not sure on Everest). For me, I couldnt step down in size to an Everest or MUX as I do some big fishing trips in the north west and there was no comparison for value elsewhere. The third row seats are perhaps only bettered by the Everest, but the low floor boot (as the tyre is on the door) provides cavernous space inside. Once the third row seats are removed from the bay theres a further cargo space. the rear boot hinge/gas strut is pretty crap though. So far I'm 60k down and no issues mechanically or electrically, plenty of offroading and under heavy load and all is well. Mitsi servicing at Paceway is a piss take as is the incompetence of ARB (avoid Osborne Park, Welshpool and Midland if you get any aftermarket gear fitted). It would benefit from a bigger fuel tank, 88l is stingy. DPF may be back for the 2018 onwards but wasnt there in 2016/17. Procure an EGR chip and all is fine.

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 Awesome write up. 

Tue, 2018-08-21 19:18

 Awesome write up. 

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 Cheers for the in depth

Wed, 2018-08-22 16:57

 Cheers for the in depth write up greyheads. 

I have heard nothing but good reviews about the Paj and I still cant get over the price difference even in compasiron to the Everest. They are IMO a well under rated vehicle in Australia , and as previously stated my old man in law an bro swear by em .

I had a look at an Everest Trend today , Remind me alot of the Ford Territory . Defiantely not as big inside as i thought they would be based on pictures I have seen. 

Another thing I will defaintely take into consideration.