Furuno fcv-585 versus the fcv-295
Ok my refit of my boat is in its last stages , all the floor work is complete new fuel tank and plumbing being built ect . Have been keeping an eye on a fcv-585 to fill the spot on the console but with the new fcv-295 coming into the market i was just wondering what everyone thought of them . Hopefully it wont turn into a 585 and a 1 kw argument but spend a fair bit of time with a fcv-1100 and 2kw wetbox transducer . Mainly like the bigger screen set up for the centre console nd it ;looks a bit more rugged than a 585 ,would mainly be targeting out to 110 metres roughly, cheers feral
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The FCV-295 is a new colour digital sounder designed for a variety of professional fishing operations. It features a bonded ‘fogging-free' 10.4" LCD display providing superior viewing even in direct sunlight. You can display echoes in 8, 16, or 64 colors, with color assignment dependent on the strength of the returned echo.
The FURUNO Free Synthesizer (FFS) Transceiver allows a wide selection of operating frequencies. You may choose any two frequencies between 28 and 200 kHz to fit your fishing operation. Output power is selectable from 1, 2 or 3 kW. A wide variety of display modes and functions are available, which provide skippers with simple and intuitive information.
- 10.4" 'Fogging-Free' color LCD provides clear view in any weather conditions
- Post-processing gain control applies to all existing returns on the display
- White Edge function trace the bottom contour with a thin white line
- FURUNO Digital Filter delivers crystal clear target presentation
- FURUNO Free Synthesizer transceiver allows adjustable operating frequency
FURUNO Digital Filter
FURUNO digital filter optimizes the gain to obtain highly defined images of underwater conditions. The FCV-295 can clearly show target fish close to the seabed. The digital filter also eliminates noise to deliver sharp and detailed echo presentation, achieving detection of fishing reef and even individual fish with absolute clarity.
White Edge
The top of the seabed is displayed in white to easily discern seabed structure from bottom fish returns. While conventional bottom discrimination function called "White Line" applies also to the strongest echoes, the White Edge function enhances the discrimination of bottom fish and seabed by painting a very thin line above the bottom contour regardless of gain setting or display colour.
Operating Frequency Adjustment
When FURUNO transducers are connected and set to the FCV-295, the operating frequency range will be registered and shown in the menu. The user can shift the operating frequency freely between the ranges at any time from the menu. With the FURUNO 82B-35R transducer, the operator can select any operating frequency from 66 to 109 kHz. This feature is particularly useful for vessels targeting many different species, or when the fish finders of other ships in the area cause interference.
Faster Transmission Rate For Detailed Detection
The rate of transmission is increased by more than 30% compared to conventional fish finders. As the result, more detailed information about underwater conditions can be gained through the same sounding interval. With the FCV-295' s AUTO transmission function, the rate is automatically raised in shallow waters and lowered in deep waters, which provides for detailed detection of seabed targets.
Function Key
An often-used function such as TVG (Time Varied Gain) can be programmed and made available with the press of the Function key. This will give you access to any menu item without opening the menu.
Functions which can be registered: Pic. Advance / Interference / Color Erase / Clutter / White Line / White Marker / TVG / STC / Bottom Zone / A-Scope / Split Range / Auto Shift / Freq Choice / Freq Control.
Quick Gain Control
With the FCV-295's Quick Gain control, changes in the Gain setting are applied to not only to new echoes, but to all past echoes on the screen. You can compare the past and current echoes under same gain setting. Because the changes are applied to both new and existing returns, you will be able to quickly and easily find the right Gain setting for your conditions.
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Feral
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if it was me and the budget
if it was me and the budget was ok id go the 295 .... mainly just so i could upgrade to a bigger tranny to get better depth at speed . allwasy find commercial grade products to be far supperior
Wazo
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Date Joined: 12/06/08
Oi Feral
Just fitted the 585/1kw as you know. This is my 2nd. Dont mess around- go the 295 or the 1150 with the big gun transducers. I regretted it from the first drop.
Nothing wrong with my gear , wish I had gone bigger.
Sounded in 250mtrs on Monday, had to work real hard to get bottom and was chasing detail all afternoon. 1kw isnt enough to target properly at depth
diji
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Date Joined: 31/03/07
I really dont know what your asking here
The navman 4500 is a much better sounder and much cheaper
feral1975
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Date Joined: 22/02/07
mainly chasing the big
mainly chasing the big screen diji , just after the pro's and con's between the both models from experience's from others who have used them
Tim
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Date Joined: 26/09/06
Con
Big con is the price. The 295 is a much better sounder being commercial grade but that comes at a cost. The FCV-295 with 2kw transducers is going to be somewhere around $6500 while a 585 with 1kw will be less than half.
Been weighing this up myself atm but hard to justify that sort of cash.
The 600w transducer works fine in the 110m depth you are talking about.
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jersey
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At last
A fisherman with a budget,my wife reckons I spend far to much on gear as it is but I have mates that make fishing and money no problem,they want it they get it,mind you,I am not sure how many are still married, This is great information on sounders, and how far,as recreationals we go to find-catch fish, personally .I am thinking seriuosly about taking up another sport,like burning dollar notes for my fun
feral1975
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Are you running a 585 tim ?
Are you running a 585 tim ? Can get the 295 which is basicallly the new fcv-1100 for $3850 in perth minus the transducer
NOHA
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The 295 is the new 292. Same
The 295 is the new 292. Same as the 585 was the replacement for the 582. Changing from old CRT models to new LCD models. As for the difference between the 1100 and the new 295. I dont know?
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Tim
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Yep
Yep - I have the 585. Had bottom all the way out to the deep water on Sunday too. Fishcrazy was watching the sounder when he wasnt thinking of his pink gloves so he can tell you.
Your right the unit is around the 4k mark but it is the transducers that cost the money. You can get a 2kw 200 and 1kw 50 for the 295 for another $1000 for the 2 but if you want 2kw 50 its about $15-1700 from memory by its self. Wetbox comined unit in 2kw was well over 2k last time I asked. (glass or ally boat? as wetbox wont go in ally unless you do major modifications).
Got these prices while doing my reasearch but they go up and down a bit all the time with the $. Just using them as ballpark. Would love the 295 myself just alot of money that could go on other stuff.
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Tony Halliday
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585 on a commercial tranny
As much as I'd love the new 295 for it's screen size etc, You still better off with a FCV585 and a top quality tranny.
I run one of the big commercial rubber 1kw 50/200 trannies, they about $700 and need a splitter box, to keep it in-tune and matched to the unit.
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