Haul net mandurah beaches
Submitted by willy2668 on Sun, 2015-03-01 07:53
Hi just after some advice as the rule book is not that clear on haul nets off the beach. In the falcon south area of beach are you aloud to use a haul net being a 2 inch set net that is not set but run out in a arc and hauled back to the beach. I do this in Busselton we can do it pretty much from south of Bunbury to bunker bay . The rule book for these areas are not very clear either till the fisheries down here made a proper map of where you can do it.
roddo
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The way i interperate the
The way i interperate the rules is that as long as you are not within 800m of the mand/dawesville estuary openings its fair game. And you cant do it anywhere in the estuary.
willy2668
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That's the way I read it too
That's the way I read it too cheers
NightWolf
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you can use that type of net
you can use that type of net int he estuary on a wensday from 4:30pm till midnight
willy2668
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Can't use a 2 inch in there.
Can't use a 2 inch in there. I chase the whitting off the beaches with 2inch only place you can use that size mesh. I'm moving to mandurah so just curious on the ocean rules up there. You Can only Haul in the ocean waters and smallest mesh is 2 inch you can't set a net in the ocean
beachsoul
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Net fishing
I think you would be advised to net in the estuary where it is tolerated. I would definately check with the local fisheries before I put any net in the water. Why not go down with a rod and catch a feed it's far more fun.
hezzy
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beach soul , tolerated
beach soul ,
tolerated ?/
are you anti netting mate ? if so im curious why ?
hezzy
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willy2668
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I find netting fun. Not as
I find netting fun. Not as easy hauling off a beach as people might think especially mullet in the day time
Anyfishwilldo (not verified)
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I go netting most Wednesday
I go netting most Wednesday nights & is good fun... I don't haul net as I'm in the estuary but an old mate of mine used to haul net in singleton... Have his quota of whiting in half hour, people fishing would get irate about it though!
edit... That was meant to say "people do get irate about it" when people in the area see him haul netting that is....
meglodon
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Never mind irate
I once saw an elderly bloke haul netting near white hills, to say the beach fishermen were irate would be an enormous understatement. Absolutely livered is more like it and it was made very clear to him that he should not get to comfortable with the practice.
willy2668
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I can't understand why each
I can't understand why each to there own I suppose some spear fish some rod and line some net. It accounts to a feed of fish
hezzy
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[meglodon ...I once saw an
[meglodon ...I once saw an elderly bloke haul netting near white hills, to say the beach fishermen were irate would be an enormous understatement. Absolutely livered is more like it and it was made very clear to him that he should not get to comfortable with the practice.]
depends if he was too close to them , that might stir em up
however if he was up the beach a fair way , so long as he was hauling it and it was all legal why not ?
his bag limit is the same no matter how he takes the fish & he has paid a licence fee to do so , beach fishers dont
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meglodon
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You are quiet right
You are quiet right in what you are saying about being legal and he paid a fee were as beach fishers didn't. However to some beach fishos using a net is like waving a red rag to a Spanish bull.
Is their outrage logical, no.
It's just that they (I think) have the view that if it's not caught on a hook in the mouth then it's been caught by foul means and is not sporting.
I use a cast net to get poddy mullet for fresh tailor bait and every now and then I'll cop a bit of flack from passers by about using a net at times other than Wednesday night and taking "under size mullet" some people just have a mind set that to use a net is just "not on" with no knowledge of what is legal and what is not.
Auslobster
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Just a question...
...obviously the netter can't control the number of fish that are netted, so in what kind of shape are the ones that might need to be released?
I've never done it, just wondering if any fish beyond the bag limit are swimming off strongly, or becoming crab/stingray food.
hornet42
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Let's Not
Call netting, Fishing as it's catching not fishing
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hezzy
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hey hornet , so using a man
hey hornet ,
so using a man made device to increase your ability to harvest/take fish is not fishing ??in the case of a net ?? but it is if you use a rod and reel , spear/ cray pot / crab net , etc
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hornet42
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If i
Pulled up next to you and ran a net around a school of fish and left would you be up set?
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hezzy
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[Pulled up next to you and
[Pulled up next to you and ran a net around a school of fish and left would you be up set?]
fair chance I would be yeh , however if you pulled up next to me and started casting into my burley trail without asking id probly be of the same mind
question is if I was to stop say 100 metres from you and burley , then net some whiting why would it bother you or anyone else if all is legal ?
net info ,
not all nets are indiscriminate,
nowdays nets are max 60 metres long and 25 meshes deep , if you have never hung a net that translates to about 1.5metres deep max , not all nets are the same
they come in varying mesh sizes depending the target species , and beach hauling with a rec net is not going to indiscriminately kill everything that it might go around , dependingon the size of the mesh etc
ocean beaches are usually deeper shelving away as you go out , so lots of fish will go under a net as its hauled due to the shallow nature of the net depth
mesh size is legal between 2'' and I think 3 inch in the ocean , so whiting , herring , anything small will swim straight through 3 inch or 2.5 , mesh , only the biggest whiting will get caught in say 2'' so if you walk around a school of possibly 30 yellowfin , fair chance you will only get to keep say 4-8 tops from that school the rest will swim under or through the mesh
as you must attend any net , it is not difficult to let fish go ,usually it s easier to not circle the entire lot and let what you don't want swim free
netter have the same bag limits as everyone else , they pay a licence fee , one licence =one bag limit ,
all fishing is about etiquette , give others some distance & consideration when fishing and all should be sweet
HEZZY
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Auslobster
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6 hours later...
...and still my question is unanswered. I'll rephrase it. Maybe some of these non-licence-fee paying line fishos become irate because they might be thinking that nets are indiscriminate; they don't specify numbers, size, or type of fish that could be caught. And they might also be thinking that any unwanted bycatch may not be able to be released in a condition that allows it to survive.
I honestly don't know...can someone who's actually done it give us a guess as to mortality rates of fish being released from nets?
grantarctic1
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Fisheries
Fisheries wont tell you the places you can net, they only tell you the areas you cant net.
So any ware not excluded in the guide is open to netting. You need a rec licence and bag limits are the same for any form of fishing.
Each person involved in the netting, must have a licence, must be actively involved and can take their bag limit.
The guide has some maps and written exclusion zones highlighting places you can not net.
If the area you want to net is not listed then it is legal to net fish there.
Michael Yoni
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Slightly wrong. You can
Slightly wrong. You can assist with the use of the net but it comes under the quota of any licence holders. Similar to boat license for example.
hezzy
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AUS , the mortality rate of
AUS , the mortality rate of released fish from a net or not encircled by a net is like any other form of fishing it is highly dependant on who is useing that net or fishing gear and how they handle the fish
any fishing method will kill released fish if there not looked after the best they can be before release
ive seen some blokes do it badly with a net but then iv seen tailor, herring , salmon dhufish etc line caught all released badly with damage as well
hezzy
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