Herring throwing trebles

 Hey All, 

 

Looking for any advice to land more herring..... Got a couple of spots where I go on both boat and landbased and throw little twistys for herring. Hook up rate is through the roof but I reckon I drop over 80% of fish either near the boat or shore when the herring jump. Its a real pain in the a$$!! 


Anybody changed out the trebles for any other hooks with more success or is this just the nature of herring fishing with metal lures? 

 

Cheers, 


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 I reckon you answered your

Tue, 2021-01-12 07:24

 I reckon you answered your own question, they hit the lures hard and in a more excited state so jump and throw the hooks. I fish for them in shallow water off the bottom with a leaded burley cage and probably an 80% catch rate. But some still head for the surface and jump. 

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Best way to overcome it and still use lures is

Tue, 2021-01-12 07:57

 use a small soft plastic.

I use the little packs of 'Prymal' in white with a fluro green round jighead. Cheap as chips from BCF. Theres about ten in a pack all ready to go. Single hooh and less weight and the fish stay on a loy better. Still lose a few though. They are the best lure I have used for herring by far. Keep your rod tip low when playing them in helps aswell.

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 I've still lost plenty

Tue, 2021-01-12 20:14

 I've still lost plenty herring on plastics mate

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Cheers!

Tue, 2021-01-12 08:08

 Cheers guys. Will give that a crack Boppo!

 

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 I have always used single

Tue, 2021-01-12 09:07

 I have always used single hooks for that reason. Always had good landing rate

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 Thanks Mate!!On metal lures?

Tue, 2021-01-12 09:17

 Thanks Mate!!

On metal lures? have you changed out the trebles to single assist hooks or similar? 

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I catch a few herring just

Tue, 2021-01-12 09:16

I catch a few herring just out of mindarie before I head out for a fish and they throw hooks constantly on twisties.

I found keeping the rod tip low and even under water with constant slow pressure reduces the amount of times they jump, once at boat lift when they are swimming, not when they are preparing to jump or head shake.

Works for me and I manage to land three quarters of them in a short amount of time.

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 Yep thats same here!! I have

Tue, 2021-01-12 09:23

 Yep thats same here!! I have a couple of spots I pull up to grab some bait quickly on the way out where I hook up every cast but just drop so many of the things! Turns a 15 minute stop in to an hour stop haha! I try and keep the rod tip low but I dont usually go under water.... might give that a crack and be a bit more gentle around the boat trying to lift them in :) 

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 Tiny assist hooks that are

Tue, 2021-01-12 09:22

 Tiny assist hooks that are usually on whiting lures works well to. The very thin membrane around the mouth tears easy. Very light lines also helps a lot with light drags.. Adds to the fun a lot too

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Those twisties have cheap

Tue, 2021-01-12 09:52

Those twisties have cheap flexible hooks. Try changing it to a decent single or a smaller Owner treble. Most of mine are lost trying to lift them into the boat due to their soft mouths and a small hand net helps with that.

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Try

Tue, 2021-01-12 12:49

small oct assist hook on twisty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl2WdhaLx7A&ab_channel=PaulFarrell-KayakFishing

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I also just use soft plastics

Tue, 2021-01-12 12:24

I also just use soft plastics these days aswell, you wont find one better than the 2.5in zman paddlerz. Still throw a few hooks but not as many as the old treble days. If for any reason you need to keep using metals for casting distance etc maybe swap out the treble for whiting assist hooks

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swap your treble out for one

Tue, 2021-01-12 18:48

swap your treble out for one size bigger ...

or go to a single hook of a decent size bigger ,,herring have a pretty big bite footprint and upsizing from the standard helps ime

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Single hook!

Tue, 2021-01-12 18:58

 

I took the trebles off my slices and went with a single hook in either 1 or 1/0.

landing rate went up big time.  Still lose a few but not as many

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Single hook

Tue, 2021-01-12 20:03

All the way . Still loose a few. Not as many

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Try keep the rod tip down to

Tue, 2021-01-12 20:14

Try keep the rod tip down to keep them down deeper in the water to get them to the boat without them jumping and throwing hooks

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 Thanks for the advice

Wed, 2021-01-13 07:17

 Thanks for the advice everyone!! Will definitley try some soft placs and changing out the trebles for some singles :) 

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 The good old h j straw cut

Wed, 2021-01-13 07:41

 The good old h j straw cut to size with a single hook. 1 mtr of trace to a swivel and float. Wind it in at a medium pace and if they are around they can't resist. 

Don't need anything fancy . Even a wall plug works a treat 

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