IMO just one good way taken the wrong way and you have yourself a whole lot of water in the front, yes I know they have good drainage holes to clear the water.

However I saw one (don't know the make) up at Exmouth some years back between the point and the islands that had taken a bad surprise wave over the bow and it was in big trouble as the water could not be cleared before the next wave hit it. For a few moments/minutes he was in some real trouble until the water level receded some.

Have I been in one no is my comment valid on one encounter probably not, but it is the only up close observation I have had of the design.

that is exactly why I dont like bowriders...but the Fury was SOOOOOOO pretty.

 The 28 foot fury presented really well and the finish on it was top shelf. I was also impressed at the single 400hp verado strapped to the back of a rib, on the same floating platform as the fury.

having just recently changed tinnie boats myself I get what you mean about some cheap and nasties being out there. I ended up with a side console 465 horizon easy fisher pro. The Quintrex boats are finished off a little nicer but come with the large price tag to match the name. 

Scano

 Just a quick question guys what would the difference between a bowrider and a centre / side Console be they are all open at the front. 

 bow rider would be ok in a big nice riding boat. But traditionally the front of the boat is the worst place to be when travelling.

People still love buying shit quality alloy boats I geuss they have never been in a quality boat

 Some seriously dodgy boats there this year including a lot of no name brands which I'm very surprised there is a market for. Standout boats for me were westerberg and another custom 720 plate boat. cant believe how expensive boats are becoming with most boats presenting very little value for money.

  Not to be flippant but they have been riveting together aircraft (including the fuel tanks) for more than half a century. Those G3 boats are part of Yamaha Marine.

As for the bow rider thing, I own a Dual Console so I guess I am biased. A traditional ally bow rider is not the same as a modern fibreglass dual console. Mine is only 21.5ft (compared to the 28ft of the Fury!!) but is a very dry riding boat. I don't go out fishing in extreme conditions but the SW chop can be a drag when it gets to 2 feet and you want to go south, however my boat stays mostly dry. The self draining deck would cover most situations I'll find myself in. The modern boats have an optional cover to fit over the front lounge so this would shed a lot of water if you needed to hit the massive swells for some reason. The layout and many uses of these style boats is why every leisure boat manufacturer has a Dual Console in their US range.

I am honestly interested to hear about the G3 rivet boats......they looked like something out of the Flintstones to be honest, but fair comment about airplanes....if Yammie are involved, they must be OK but they sure look horrible....

 I'm not convinced re the rivet boats, but then a gain that's how the olders one's were built including ships. I guess they've been engineered to cop a hammering but not my cup of tea. Welding is far more superior and quicker. As far as planes are concerned they were never designed to be slapped around in a 2.4m swell 

 Rivetting is used on thinner material because its stronger

Spreads the load where a weld would be subject to cracking

There is a good factory tour video on the US web site that shows some of the attention to detail. They briefly mention the rivet idea but don't elaborate on why theirs are pretty much the only riveted boat I've seen in the rec market. 

Cheers for the write up John, I didnt get a chance to head down there as prep work for 10 days at Abrolhos next week was in full swing over the weekend

Regarding the Regulators, I think you should take a run in one to see how they really go. A friend of mine has one on the east coast and they are absolute offshore weapons. We did a run in some fairly sloppy conditions off Sydney (25knt wind and 2.5m seas working against each other) and didnt have to come under 25knots - it was very impressive even compared to the plenty of Bostons I've run in. We landed a nice 180kg Blue on 37kg and a big fella fought a lot of the fight on the gunnel where stability was no issue at all.

Ive had a good look at the boats since then and am looking at getting a 23 in Perth. The length, volume and weight of the 23 is comparable to a 25 boston but fuel economy blows it away and price is sharper at last check

Dont take my word for it though, David Lockwood (respected independant boating Journo) has done a review on boatsales which goes into plenty of detail.

Be happy to take you for a run when my boat arrives!

Don't get me wrong, a Regulator will piss all over a Boston Whaler any day of the week in heavy chop, the hull has a fine entry point, steep deadrise and would be extremely smooth riding. But compromises are compromises, and a 24 degree dead rise compromises stability at rest...period. As for price, you are probably right.....$200k for that Regulator is good value compared with $110k for some of the tinnies with a flash paint job....

Its just what compromise you are most happy with. If it is blasting around in heavy chop, the Regulator looks like a beast. However, a centre console in Perth winter and an unstable platform at rest....not for me. And putting a hard top on a 24 degree dead rise hull results in further complications with ride and stability based on my experience.

I have been in a few 24 degree dead rise boats...they all had the same great points and the same bad downsides.

Choose your poison.

 buy the sounds of it was a good showing mmmmmm was going to take two of my boats but have never been keen on this show (can see why) although maybe i should have 

I was surprised a number of years ago when at the boat show looking to buy a new boat. I was looking to replace my 8m Patriot that had been written off. I looked at the Aussie/yank glass boats and hadnt made a decision when I walked passed a Tinny with a flash paint job and was offered a test run. I initially declined, but the lure of free beer soon saw me and 3 others heading out for a spin. I was anticipating a predictably shit trip being ally, getting bashed around as it was fairly choppy. To my surprise it rode really well, trim up/down and at different speeds. The fit out was great bla bla bla. I ended up buying one a week later. Basically, not all boats are what they seem and it goes to show that the only way to find out is to give it a go. It does occaisionally bang a bit when I need to push it a bit when rough for whatever reason, but no worse than a 255 Conquest (Keep that 235 mate, they are a great boat compared to the 255!). Its the least worse riding Ally Ive been on! Still have it 7 years later here in Darwin with nearly 2000 hours on the motor, hasnt missed a beat. Its one of the only good decisions Ive made drinking beer!
Daisy

Yeah a lot of our fishing/diving is done well offshore (40+ miles) so the ride underway is top of the list for me. My current boat is a blackwatch 25 which has done a good job for similar stuff but the stability at rest was a bit of an issue there. Compared to the BW the Reg seemed a lot more stable, probably because of the extra width and weight

The other big decider for me was the fuel economy which is about 35% better compared to the 25 boston outrage. With the amount of fishing I (and you) do that adds up pretty quick

 Thanks for the boat show summary John. Like most others have said glad i didnt make the effort to go now.

I find myself agreeing with both you and DBZ. I used to own a 235 conquest and thought long and hard before upgrading. I do a lot of long running offshore good and bad conditions and was concerned about centre console in winter or windy condition. However in the new 25 outrage very dry very comfy ride compared to mates that try to keep up in a whitely and haines hunter. The perspex side curtains are a real winner keeping all crew very dry and easy to put up and down. When drift fishing much prefer the extra space especially the deep drop with electrics nice to spread out and cover more ground imo.(heading up to coral bay in June and to be able to quickly lead fish around the boat also very easy)

DBZ:In regards to economy of the outrage i went slighly bigger on the motors with less revs. Twin 225 mercs not working hard at all 24knots which is the most economical speed for this setup.  Certainly more in service costs etc but good piece of mind having 2 motors.

I guess as John has said all boats have some sort of compromise but i certainly dont regret getting a centre console.

(especially a whaler !!!!) happy and dry fishing to you both !!

 My perfect boat:

- rides like a deep dead rise regulator or contender going out  into chop

- handles a big following sea like a flatter v boat

- has the fuel economy of a Ali runaboit

- has the stability at rest of a shark cat

- has 4 berths for Rotto long weekends

- is enclosed for cold winters conditions

- is a centre console so I can fish all around the boat

- low cost to buy

Best you can usually do is get 3 or 4 of these in one boat  or get more but with compromises. 

The joys of boating!

-

 Fast, cheap to run, good ride. 

Choose 2

 Here you go, Fury 282 Dual console

https://youtu.be/i2-tJBlk7WM

I liked the new carrabean/ Bertram 2300, based on the old Bertram 23. Ive currently got the 21ft reef runner but this boat definately got my attention. More deck space, bigger dash for electronics, twice the fuel capacity at over 400ltrs and legal to tow. Yep this boat would do me nicely

 The 2400 is what my dreams are mate of epic boat

A mate just forwarded this old thread to me, which made me laugh, as I had actually forgotten about stepping onto the Regulator 23 CC over 2 years ago, but things have changed recently so worth a final note on this thread...... 

Back in 2016, I had basically decided my Boston Whaler 235 Conquest was as good a compromise boat as I could get for my purposes, and that has not changed.  Just back from another awesome Exxy trip with the boys and a recent trip to Rotto with the wife and young bloke and the Whaler was supurb at both. 

HOWEVER........an opportunity recently arose to go 1/3 ownership in a "deam boat" with 2 other mates.......we all ageeed to chuck in a chunk of hard earned....just needed to agree  on the dream boat.....After a world wide search of ALL and ANY type of boat......and after actually test dring the Regulaotr 23 (yep, everything I said 2 years ago was correct) and a Regulator 34 (wow), all 3 of us concluded the dream boat  for US was.......a Regulator 28 CC......

Beast of a boat, 32 ft overall length (28 is VERY conservative), 2 x 300 yammies, 52 knot top speed, absolutely top notch construction, uncompromising deep V fishing battleship! The Bugatti of the ocean. Downside is price (eyewatering) but this is mitigated by sharing the pain with 2 others which is surprisingly comforting......at worse, there are 2 other blokes as dumb as me!

Boat is being built to our spec in the good ol USA as we speak.....bring on September when it will hit WA! 

As for the Boston Whaler 235.........I was not keen to sell it but my wife had the last say.....and stated in no uncertain terms that we will be the keeping the Whaler regardless of any other "fishing" boat I may get. Yep....I chose both boat and wife well!!! 

 The whole tow thing is in the too hard basket in Oz given it will be over 5 t including trailer.......I think it will be a case of chucking it on the back of a semi and getting a truckie to drop it where we want it. 

 Anyone remember the DeHavillands?  Yes the same Dehavilland Aircraft company, makers of some famous aircraft. they had excess workshop capacity at Bankstown and went into fabricating boats using their airframe fabrication expertise. The most famous one would have been the Trojan--22ft LOA IIRC, built like a tank, used by the miltary, police and civilian sea search and rescue. Australias very first big tinny. They lasted pretty well, but the rivetting usually let them down in the end. A mate had 14 footer with a 40 Evinrude pull start on the back, we dived the hell out of that. This was late sixties/early seventies, it was getting on 20 years old by then, and was a bit leaky. Some good quality tinnies still use rivetting for stuff above the water line like seat supports--much better for bonding a thin bracket to a hull than welding.

reading the above just reinforces that EVERY boat is a compromise, just pick what you are happy to be compromised on. I just laugh when someone states their boat is "No-compromise"