It could be back.....Super Trawler
Submitted by roberta on Thu, 2013-08-22 16:18
Hope I've down this link right fellas but found this on my FB page, please do the right thing and follow the links to send to our Politicians.
http://stopthetrawler.good.do/permanent-ban/
Thanks
Roberta
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Tradewind
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Thanks for putting this
Thanks for putting this up
Signed & Sent
CityFlicker
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Thanks Roberta. Done & link
Thanks Roberta. Done & link sent to my old man so he can get his motorbike & 4x4 club members onto it to.
Just because I smile & nod does not mean I believe the crap coming out of your mouth.
All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the privilege.
petermac
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done
hope it doesn't come back rec fishos and pro fishos should get together and blockade it
roberta
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Thanks
fellas we need to keep on top of this for future generations of fisho's
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strumpet
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Another +1
Yep, Im throwin my support behind the trawler, go get em boys!!!
pale ale
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I got a reply..... Thank you
I got a reply.....
Thank you for your email regarding freezer trawlers.
We are fortunate in Australia to have one of the most sustainable fishing industries in the world according to independent benchmarks. Management strategies are developed following sound scientific research and extensive consultation with a number of stakeholders and it on this basis that the Coalition has confidence in the quota and management conditions.
Australia’s current industry conditions were introduced by the former Fisheries Minister, Tony Burke, based on the Small Pelagic Fishing Harvest Strategy. This plan includes mitigation strategies to minimise the potential of bycatch. It was also Minister Burke who created this issue by inviting these types of vessels to Australia as part of the same strategy. At the time he was quoted as saying “There are considerable economies of scale in the fishery and the most efficient way to fish may include large scale factory freezer vessels”.
By contrast, the Coalition believes in fisheries management that promotes sustainability so that we can all have confidence that our fish stocks can be appropriately managed to ensure access well into the future, for both commercial and for recreational fishers.
Our policies will be based on science and for that to occur it is our intention to permit the current scientific panel to complete its work. This will include the commissioning of new science, preferably an egg survey as part of gaining a more accurate understanding of stock levels. It is expected that the panel will publish its report by October next year.
Thank you again for your email.
Kind regards,
Melissa Price
Liberal Candidate for Durack
M: 0416 244 314
E: melissa.price@wa.liberal.org.au
W: melissaprice.wa.liberal.org.au
roberta
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Yup
Pale Ale just got the same email, word for word.
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Tradewind
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Reading between the
Reading between the lines:
We're open to having the super trawler if the scientists say yes
roberta
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It looks
that way Tradewind
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strumpet
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Well thats because its
Well thats because its scientifically proven to be sustainable! their anual quota is only 18000 tonnes, and that stretches from WA to Queensland! that makes it one of australias smallest commercial catches for the area of operation, for a product that nobody else wants. The quota is only half of the total allowable catch rate!
They spent half a million on testing and design of a new SED that ensures no poxy seals or dolphins get caught, and it has minimal bi-catch rates. Not to mention all the money spent on egg surveys and sustainability!
But, of course, you're recreational fishers, so you must know best!!!
Congratulations on your closed-mindedness and extreme bias!!!!
roberta
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You have only
been a member for one week, haven't even filled out your information (or are we trolling?) so we can all see what you like or dislike.
strumpet it sounds like you have a vested interest in the Super Trawler by your attitude to our comments. You state poxy "Seals & Dolphins," don't sound much like a nice human being to me if you think seals and dolphins are poxy, now do we.
Unfortunately my clouded mind must be working and rightly so, as I'm not the only amatuer or would image professional fisherman that are up in arms about this SUPER TRAWLER, 18,000tonnes of a catch that nobody wants, well why the hell are they fishing in our waters then, please explain.
Once you let them in they will take more than 18,000 tonnes, then who will be crying the loudest?
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COASTALJOY
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small point
I hope people realise that the quota that they are allocated will still be caught even if the Super trawler does not fish it, It just means alot more fishing trips for smaller trawlers and more bycatch or the same. If the Super trawler was fishing they will have government observers out on it recording bycatch and quotas, there is no such check on the smaller boats. The fish will still be caught either way. Still not a great thing but is anyone going to stop eating prawns because of the bycatch involved, I think not.
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all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
pale ale
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I'm sure the quota is
I'm sure the quota is sustainable.... but I dont like the idea that they will try and wipe out an entire area. They wont go any further than they have to. If they can get their quota in Tassie waters, they will. Not too good for Tassies fish stocks.
would it not be better to have a number of smaller vessels make up the catch? More jobs for Aussies? Does the supertrawler employ aussies or cheap foreign labour?
grantarctic1
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Agree
I agree with your line of thought pale ale, I'm not up to speed on the situation and have only seen what the media have shown about the whole issue. ( and we all know if it's in the media it has to be true )
But i have allways wondered too, by inviting this trawler to take over the catch from smaller vessels, is this not taking jobs away from the local fishing industry ?
But hey thats just my closed-mindedness and extreem bias at work . Questioning what goes on in Australian waters because i'm a know it all recreational fisher . lol .
Rob H
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there are relevant points
there are relevant points here on both sides especially Pale Ale.
On the quota side, usually the zone isn't just one covering the entire area.
As with our rec zones (Gascoyne, South etc), pro cray (A,B,C zones), Northwest Trawl (4 blocks) etc it is (or should be) separated and the effort spread.
Banning the Supertrawler just to reduce the efficiency is a stupid tactic in itself, akin to say trying to reduce car use by making petrol tanks max 25 litres.
Having said that Im not for it due to as above (jobs)and that this Government have proven themselves totally inept in any sort of environmental management, whether that's because of or in spite of the Greens I don't know.
Even when they do the right thing they do it for the wrong reasons.
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Everyone's just winging it.
strumpet
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the supertrawler will be
the supertrawler will be crewed by aussies, therefore PROVIDING jobs, for up to 40 people! not to mention its being brought in by an aussie company, so all the money stays in australia. its not some shifty illegal boat come down from venezuala or something and just somehow managed to jag a liscense to fish australian waters! do you honestly not even read a single bit of information on these things before you start whingeing and signing petitions??? if they took the word super out of the name and just changed it to "relatively large trawler" it'd slip past without a whisper!
and im not trolling Roberta, i signed up a week ago and one of the first things I read was this prejudiced, uninformed opinion piece of yours! and as for not a very nice human being, you are urging people to sign a petition to ban a boat that has cost an australian company hundreds of thousands of dollars, years of research, will provide jobs for australian people, and is only after a pittance, based solely on the fact that you donated a dollar to greenpeace and you want to jump onboard the bandwagon! You dont care how many peoples lives are affected by this as long as you get to stand up and look fashionable and get your 15 minutes in the limelight! so please, stand up and take a bow now while the issue is still relevant, or you'll have to wait for the next hot topic to come along before you can bask in the glow!!
And quotas are there for a reason! so they dont take more than 18000tonnes! Coastaljoy said it right, they will have government observers onboard recording everything that comes over the side! They will also be shut down if they catch 3 seals, whereas the hundreds of other boats plying australian waters that DONT have observers on board, well ask yourself how many of them go and report hoy many seals and dolphins they catch!!
You dont have a single, solitary clue about anything regarding this boat, yet you cry for it to be banned, and when faced with cold truths about it you deflect attention away from yourself and back onto me, because you dont have a mob to back you up and speak for you! you are like the coward who joins a lynch mob out of fear and ignorance! Who will be crying the loudest???? YOU will ALWAYS be crying the loudest! And you dont sound much like a nice human being to me either!!
CityFlicker
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Abusing a long time well
Abusing a long time well respected member after only being a member for a little under two weeks yourself. A bold move that wil certainly garner you less responses when you ask for a bit of advice. I respect your right to voice your opinion but I have zero respect for the way your doing it. Pull your head in & knock off the abuse mate.
Just because I smile & nod does not mean I believe the crap coming out of your mouth.
All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the privilege.
grantarctic1
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yeah all good brahj
Yeah all good brahj , no need to get smith and wesson about it . Great unbias open-mindedness input by a new member.
F@ck i hate trolls !!!!!!!!!! Please Don't Feed the Crumpet , oops i meant Scrumpet, i Think , F2ck knows , i think this crack is rooly good. Please sir can i get some more ?
petermac
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you obvestily
you must have a vested interest that is quoted straight out of the hand book I know I don't want to see it in WA or any were else for that matter I support our pro fisherman but that trawler is over the top ( think Dampier archipelago when a certain trawler came through and flattened the pinicalals ), here is some advise piss of back to Europe with your supertrawler your not welcome here
Wahoo
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wow, employs 40 aussies
that's huge strumpet
. Pull yer head in.
Fishin for a feed and fun.
SKREW-LOOSE
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thats haneous
thats haneous
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