Lewmar profish winch issue
Submitted by oz74 on Fri, 2015-09-25 17:30
hi all,
I have a lewmar profish (freefall model) 1000 that is only a year or two old and hasn't done a lot of work, but having some issues.
the gypsy just wont seem to grab and retrieve the rope and chain. The teeth on the winch are fine- it just wont tighten.
for those that know the lewmar, it winds out and a form of clutch releases so it can freefall out, you then hit the up button and it will wind a side wheel in until the clutch grabs and then up comes the anchor- the side wheel on mine now winds in but just not enough to grab.
I have tried tinkering with it but cant work out how/ if it can be tightened.
has anyone had this problem or know what/ how / where to fix it?
cheers
brett
meglodon
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Have you asked the dealer for help
Have you asked who you brought the winch from for advice or had a look at the web page for Lewmar winches. Look for an exploded parts drawing that may be of assistance in trying to find the cause of the problem. Just a thought
oz74
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Tried BLA, who are the Aust agents but they couldn't really help except say to take it to a marine mechanic to check out or send it to them (over east) to look at.
I bought it from Bias boating who have now gone bust so that doesn't help me either!
and yes, tried the manuals and online but hoping someone may have experienced something similar before I start lulling it apart
cheers
brett
meglodon
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Yes I agree with your thinking
It is far and away easier if a F/W member has had similar experiences and can put you on the right track straight off.
Good luck with it.
Guardy
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Mine does that occasionally
I have removed the free fall system as that was giving me a lot of drama. Now when the winch starts to lose traction I have my decky put a little weight on the control arm (the lever arm that pushes down on the rope & chain in the gypsy). This seems to do the trick ok but this shouldn't be required. I find that if you motor towards the anchor and give it to much slack it happens more often. Not enough weight pulling the rope down into the gypsy!
My other problem is that the rope or the chain when paying out jumps the gypsy and then just free falls until someone grabs it and places it back on the gypsy. The manual has no mention of this in the troubleshooting. I do know that my next boat won't have a Lewmar anchor winch.
petermac
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lewmar ??? get a bardsley
I don't need a boat winch I have a Bardsley its a short stocky semi human about 175 cm tall that weighs about 110kg and built like a Sherman tank that can lift heavy weights like cray pots from 30m and pull up anchors with no dramas trade you anchor winch in for a good mate
shortfuse
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Could it be the rope type? I
Could it be the rope type? I have a lewmar but not the pro fish, I have thought about buying the free fall kit for I found it pretty good on occasion that I have used it but it's a pain having to go to bow a releasing the clutch. Mine came rigged on the boat and the rope is a little unusual not regular silver rope or nylon
oz74
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Free fall option
shortfuse,
notwithstanding the the issue I am currently having, the free fall option for the lewmar has been really good to date so worth considering adding on- as you say, it will save you having to manually disengage the clutch when you want to drop the pick right on a point (especially in deeper waters).
cheers
brett
paul d
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Hi Brett, did you pull the
Hi Brett, did you pull the gypsy off the winch prior to it having problems ? The reason i say this is i took mine off to replace the stipper arm and i put it back on in reverse and it wouldn't retrieve the rope. The gypsy must go back on with the correct side facing out.
Hope this helps
Paul
oz74
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Not rope
thanks do replies so far,
no, it's not the rope type as it has/ had been working fine.
no, I haven't had the gypsy off yet but will probably rip it off this afternoon to see if there is anything obvious. The prob is that, what I will call the clutch wheel, winds in, it just doesn't quite wind in enough to stop the actual gypsy wheel (the one that grabs the rope and chain) from free spinning.
i did take off the gear box cover and that is all perfect.
as the clutch wheel winds in but doesn't tighten, I'm thinking that whatever thread the clutch wheel winds in on my be stripped right at the point that it tension the gypsy wheel.
will hopefully find out this afternoon.
cheers
brett
karlos 22
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I have exactly the same
I have exactly the same problem with my Lewmar Profish 1000.
Actually it has now stopped working completely, more likely electrical.
I am going to strip mine down tomorrow night.
meglodon
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problem solved?
When you find out what the problem is can you post what the problem was so that if any other members have lewmars with the same/similar problems they will know what to look for.
Trailcraft570
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Contact Lewmar UK
I had an issue with a ProSport and contact Lewmar in the UK via their website Lewmar.com They were very helpful and provided excellent feedback and support. Suggest you drop them a note and see what they say
oz74
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fixed meglodon..
well not quite fixed, but the part replaced.
the freefall option on the lewmar 700 and 1000's is an outer drive cap that can disengage the gypsy and allow the wheel to spin freely and the anchor freefall. this cap then winds back in and tightens against the gypsy to allow the rope and chain to be retrieved. mine just wasnt tightening up and therefore wouldnt allow the gypsy to lift anything and it remained to spin freely.
as suspected, when i went to remove the drive cap, i had to use a fair bit of force to manually unwind the cap (which you should be able to undo by hand) and when i got it off, the internal thread of the drive cap had been threaded with metal remaining on the shaft thread that comes from the winch motor (this meant that the shaft thread was still ok which was lucky). as soon as i got the cap off, the were bits of its thread all through it. apart from the obvious issue, the Lewmar is a really easy bit of kit to pull apart.
i had never had the drive cap on or off before and has only been subject to minimal use over the last 18months so how it manged to cross thread i dont know.
there have been a couple of time where i have anchored and just used the winch to hold it (i think its rated to over 5t so didnt think this should be an issue) and a couple of times where i have had to use a bit of boat and winch grunt to free the anchor- so if this contributed to it im not sure. i will be sure to tie either rope or chain off to the bollard in future though to make sure the is no pressure on the winch when anchored- just in case (yes i know this should be done anyway).
now this drive cap comes as a single part with the nice RRP of $400. I spoke to BLA (Lewmar Aust distributors) about the issue and they too werent sure of the cause. anyway, sent it over east to them for any potential warranty claim.
they wouldnt specifically cover it under warranty and send me a new cap but did the next best thing and have sent me a second hand cap under warranty (it's predominatly stainless steel besides somes springs and the internal brass looking thread so it could be 10 years old for all i care- as long as it does the job).
apparently it has arrived at home so will put back on next week when back in Perth and fingers crossed, will be good as new (and just in time for cray season )
cheers
Brett
Ericl
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Lewmar
I had a problem with my Simpson Lawrence which seems to work similiarly. I caused the problem by hitting the down button for too long which engages a pawl and the nut kept winding out until it broke right off. Manged to fix most stuff and only had to buy a few spares.
The free fall is engaged by a pawl, and I think the locking happens by inertia. ? So far, it has always locked OK after hitting the up button. Threads probably need to be clean and in good condition
Cheers
Eric
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