more shark rigs
Johns post on shark rigs was interesting, so gonna put some of mine up. Keen to see what other people are using as well!
First is my cast trace, for a whole herring, small tailor etc. Has a long sinker trace and modified sinker so the sinker can be clipped for casting like in the second pic, I find this helps the casting a fair bit.
Second rig is for sliding large baits, whole tailor (dead), large tailor heads/flap baits or or tuna heads.
Third is a very basic rig. single hook for sliding live herring, or small tailor. Probably gets used the most out of the three. If im sliding larger live tailor or snook ill add a second hook.
I nearly always use a heavy mono (100-150lb) leader of like 6-9 metres over the rig or if sliding another metre of steel between the stopper ring and the mainline/leader.
I like to use 210 or at least 130lb nylon covered steel, but its getting hard to find. Also prefer the black but giving the bleeding wire a go.
If anyone knows where to get heavy black nylon covered steel please let me know
cheers guys, let me know what ya think and any ideas for improvements
Adam
UPDATE: all the pics dissapeared during site upgrade, just noticed. Gonna put up my mac slide bait rig plus slide sinker.
cuthbad
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Curt i cant reply to ya msg
Curt i cant reply to ya msg mate your settings dont except private msgs or something.....
DieHard
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Nice... all up how heavy is
Nice... all up how heavy is your rig with wholer herring? (300-400g)
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young_yakker
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nice rigs that first one
nice rigs that first one would be hard to cast
which have you caught most shark on ?
cuthbad
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third one, with a live
third one, with a live herring would have caught the most.
The first is suprisingly easy to cast, the clipped sinker puts all the weight in one spot and the sliding sinker attachment normally stops any tangles.
Diehard not sure how heavy it is mate, I use an 8oz sinker but you dont need to.
Do you guys slide your baits often?
Dreamtime
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good thinkin
thats a ripper idea ya got for the sinker clip i bet that makes the difference of whether you ever use that rig, it would for me. ive never seen or heard of it before, wouldnt be to hard to make with pliers and a bit of coathanger either? i never really slide my baits i find if the bities are there they will eat it. that bleeding wire looks pretty thin aswell... time well spent i say.
John_M
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nice rigs man. have you
nice rigs man. have you tried using circle hooks above the J hooks or just circles on the single?
Likc
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Nice rigs. When you clip the
Nice rigs. When you clip the sliding rig on your main line, how do you stop it from sliding off at the end? You have your sinker and something above it the clip sits against when you reeling in? Thanks.
cuthbad
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Cheers guys, John I have
Cheers guys,
John I have only tried circles as a single hook. To be honest I havent quite got the hang of them yet so dont often use them on my rigs. gonna give it a go in exmouth in a couple of weeks though since it wont be as big a deal up there if i miss a couple of hookups.
Likc, yea you attach a stopper to the end of your mainline (the stopper ring comes with the slides), then attach the sinker trace and sinker to the stopper. Sliding baits is great for getting big baits out a massive distance or for getting live bait a fair way out without stunning the bait during the cast
still searching for heavy nylon covered steel, tried another place today and could only get up to 100lb lockweld... might need to order over the net or something and hope it gets here within a couple of weeks
John_M
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Yeh there pretty good man,
Yeh there pretty good man, so long as you let the fish hook itself. The J hook on the bottom adds for assurance and also so you can get your rig back haha. Ring Fremantle fishing tackle (9430 9442), I think they have some plastic coated wire from about 135lb +. I bought some last week.
cuthbad
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awesome! thanks mate ill
awesome! thanks mate ill give them a call!
cuthbad
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didnt have any luck with
didnt have any luck with them, not sure if it was a miscomunication with the guy or what but he said he had no nylon covered steel trace, just bare steel. Just ordered some stuff off ebay, 200lb but not sure about the brand, called 316 stainless steel wire trace, looks ok but only 20 bucks for 2 packs delivered so not a big deal....
John_M
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hmnm that'd odd aha. I'll
hmnm that'd odd aha. I'll check next time for ya man
John_M
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Also with the heat shrink,
Also with the heat shrink, (I haven't done this in my pics) I use a smaller piece on either side of say a hook, over the crimp etc, then a large piece over the top of it all in the middle. You might find this will stiffen the rig up (ie. hook section) which I find is better, given no awkward bending within the hooks/wire with bigger sharks. I don't know if this helps? What are your thoughts ?
cuthbad
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hmm, duno mate. I never used
hmm, duno mate. I never used to even use heat shrink on mine just started. I like to leave the bottom hook swinging pretty loose though. Have heard that with circles the way they are rigged can make a big difference with hookup rates...
John_M
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yep definitely.
yep definitely.
cuthbad
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got my nylon covered 200lb
got my nylon covered 200lb today, not as nice as the american fishing wire stuff but looks pretty good :-)
piston broke
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That sinker casting
idea is brilliant, never seen it before cheers Pete
craifish
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sliders
where can you buy sliders from in the west
psion
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Sliders
Takes about 4 min to make a slider and 30 secs to make a bait clip.
slider
needs Stainless steel wire
Bait clip, I use the wife' s curtian hooks, it makes 2 clips per hook.
Bungel
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circles need to swing free,
circles need to swing free, or as much at possible. . They do their own thing.
Research the Mouse Trap way of setting up a bait for sharks... very effective with the use of circles.