motor doesnt always start when its in neutral

 Hi all, I am hoping someone can help. I have a honda 130 BF and ocasionally it wont restart. i will turn the motor off to fish and when i go to start it again there is nothing, the batteries are only 2 years old and have plenty of charge, the issue seems to be the throttle control itself, as it only strats after moving the throttle control silghlty into gear and then back to nuetral many times. i have a seperator on the fuel line so im discounting bad feul as it runs perfect when going. could it be something as simple as connection points or do throttles need to be replaced occasionally. Your anticipated answers are very much appreciated

 

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When you say you go to start it and there is nothing

Fri, 2019-10-11 14:30

 Meaning it doesn't crank at all?

 

can be any one of the following

1. faulty micro switch for neutral position on gear lever

2. faulty "dead man switch" lanyard that normally had the red plastic cord

3. faulty ignition witch 

3. faulty starter motor solenoid (unlikely)

 

my main guess is faulty micro switch on the throttle cable control. Easy to replace and also test 

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model

Fri, 2019-10-11 14:59

My money is on ignition switch,good spray with inox in key hole.
Year would be good.

https://www.boats.net/catalog/honda/outboard-by-hp-serial-range/130hp

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 thanks scano, are all those

Fri, 2019-10-11 15:13

 thanks scano, are all those potential issues expesive to get fixed?

and are they fixable without having to replace the throttle lever

thanks for your help

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 inox you say model, ill try

Fri, 2019-10-11 15:14

 inox you say model, ill try that first up 

thank you

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 yes no crank at all scano,

Fri, 2019-10-11 15:16

 yes no crank at all scano, nothing until ive moved the throttle in and out of nuetral several times and usually a bit of a wait

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 thanks for the link Model

Fri, 2019-10-11 15:18

 thanks for the link Model but it may as well be written in chinese such is my motor knowledge, keep meaning to do a course somewhere for peace of mind 

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Model

Fri, 2019-10-11 21:33

Who's Model ?

Translation what year is the outboard,as the link shows many years/Models.

 

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Sounds like

Sat, 2019-10-12 22:58

From what you are saying it sounds very much to me like the micro switch in the throttle lever, I base my guess at what the problem is in you saying that you have to move the throttle lever back and forward or until just in gear then move it out of gear. I would give the advice that MALANO615 gave you before I'd look at anything else.

Good luck

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 Thanks meglodon is the micro

Sun, 2019-10-13 12:26

 Thanks meglodon is the micro switch easy to replace?

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I believe so

Sun, 2019-10-13 16:38

However, let me qualify that by saying I have never done it myself, a quick trip to the local library or have a look on utube should provide you with all the info you need.

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A micro switch

Sun, 2019-10-13 16:38

 Is piece of cake to replace. Unscrew then cover to the throttle handle / cable assembly. There will be 2 wires running to

A micro switch that is pressed down when in neutral. Remove the switch, get replacement (jaycar or altronics might do a suitable alternative to the genuine one), plug the wires in, and put it all  back together. If you want to test the micro switch before replacing, just use a small

piece of wire to bring she the contacts between the switch, and test starting function thereafter. 

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Also

Sun, 2019-10-13 16:39

 Should be a very cheap fix. All of about $10 at the most 

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Also

Sun, 2019-10-13 16:39

 Should be a very cheap fix. All of about $10 at the most 

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 thank you to all who have

Mon, 2019-10-14 09:51

 thank you to all who have had some input, lovely to know there are so many willing to help, tight lines all

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