new to yakking
Submitted by Ashenfall on Tue, 2012-02-07 18:26
Hey All
I just obtained a Hobie Revo 11 and i'm gonna go out for a spin soon. Before I do so, are there any boating rules/etiquette I need to be aware of? This is my first ever water craft so I'm right about unfamiliar with any boating rules, aside from power boats giving way to non-powered.
Swan River Fisher
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dont know much about kayak
dont know much about kayak fishing but if i were you i'd get out of the way of a power boat! Generally on the water you give way to bigger than you- eg through a bridge give way to a 40' boat rather than you trying to squash infront of him. only exception is for sail boats where the power boats pass behind.
basically dont 'ping' on other peoples spots or they might get angry. try and stay outside the channel markers where most of the boating traffic is.
Pretty much just common sence and you should be fine
good luck! :)
Reefmonkey
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what???
a bigger boat has right of way?? If your going to give advice on the road rules best you learn them first.
Dave J.
Swan River Fisher
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no i said i would get out of
no i said i would get out of the way of a bigger boat.
if you were in a tinny and came across a 50 000 tonne cruise ship would you wait for it, or cut infront? Somehow I don't think the ship would stop and wait... :/
sarcasm0
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Massive facepalm! Again
Maybe I would follow the International Rules Preventing Collision at Sea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Regulations_for_Preventing_Collisions_at_Sea
Swan River Fisher
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lol i said i WOULD not you
lol i said i WOULD not you HAVE to
No vessel ever has absolute 'right of way' over other vessels. Rather, there can be a 'give way' (burdened) vessel and a 'stand on' (privileged) vessel
i didnt read all of it but i didnt come across anything about bigger vessels giving way to smaller ones...
Reefmonkey
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"Generally on the water you
"Generally on the water you give way to bigger than you" i believe is the advice you gave.
Although there is a rule in the colregs that a vessel under twenty meters cannot impede the path of a vessel over twenty meters, that is not the case for recreational craft on the river or ocean. Recreational boats certainly should not have the mentality that i'm bigger so i have right of way. Sorry SRF but every trip out I encounter people who dont put the rules into practice and it drives me up the wall! there is a very basic and simplified set of rules as to who is the give way and who stands on, every body who drives a boat has to pass a test to show they understand them but too many can't put it into practice or forget.
"if you were in a tinny and came across a 50 000 tonne cruise ship would you wait for it, or cut infront? Somehow I don't think the ship would stop and wait... :/"
No but if i was in a kayak and a 40ft cruiser approached off my port bow on a course that would cause a collision or cut me off I would expect him to alter his course or speed to allow me safe passage... would this happen? probably not because the skipper of the cruiser would have the mentallity of i'm bigger so i can travel where i want to and off he would go causing a hazard and confusion to every other boatie he encounters.
Nowhere in your RST booklet does it say, Generally on the water you give way to bigger than you. sorry for the rant and taking the thread off topic but it just touches a nerve with me, especially with larger boats and the responsibility that comes with driving them. Offering advice is great and good on you, but just make sure your giving the correct advice.
Dave J.
Swan River Fisher
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yes fair enough
yes fair enough
Reefmonkey
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sorry for the rant though.
sorry for the rant though. not personal. I think its more a case of my bottled up emotions from every time i wanted to chase down a gin palace and throw RST books at the skippers head
Dave J.
sarcasm0
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Massive facepalm!
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bloodysmythe
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hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
drinkin TNT n' smokin dynamite
Swan River Fisher
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hahahahahhahhah
hahahahahhahhah
BunburyYakfisha
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Hey....Where abouts are you
Hey
Where abouts do you do yaking??
Cheer Jesse
Ashenfall
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Not just the Swan sorry
the Canning River will be my main area. I live literally 3 streets away from the bank of it
Ashenfall
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The Swan River will be my
The Swan River will be my main area of activity. This will be the first time I'm yaking for fishing purposes.
Reefmonkey
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sorry for the rant above,
Could be helpfull to grab yourself a copy of the swan river boating guide and familiarise yourself with the general areas of the river, If your breaming in the upper reaches of the swan boat traffic is restricted to 8 knots so shouldn't be too many boats fanging around or big wakes to worry about. If your fishing the banks or snags you shouldn't have to worry too much either.
You can pick up the RST book for free at most boat shops, of course legally you don't need your rst but it will be a good guide for any rules you may want/need to know and safety gear required, especially if you start heading out into the ocean or if you want to head out after dark even in the river. Also make youself as visable as possible, shouldn't be to much of an issue on the river but certainly in the ocean.
Dave J.
Swan River Fisher
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Up near riverton boat ramp
Up near riverton boat ramp there are tonnes of bream, not size but good fun. pretty quiet too
JohnSorrell
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Few rules...Get a saftey
Few rules...
Get a saftey flag...
Give way to anything that is cruising at speed.... keep left when head on.
Dont ever cut across a channel in front of a ferry .. these guys just get on the horn and run you down :)
If you do get into a collission course, a boat will usually move around you... sail boats dont... so move fast.
Stay well away from large sail boats... these guys think they have right of way... even if they are smaller than you.
Hope this helps..
Gone Fishing...
Alan James
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"Keep left when head on"
I thought it was the opposite. "Right is might" was the rule I was taught.
JohnSorrell
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http://www.swanrivertrust.wa.
http://www.swanrivertrust.wa.gov.au/riverpark/recreation/Documents/boating_guide_dec_2011.pdf
http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/imarine/19160.asp
Guide and rules.
Gone Fishing...
sarcasm0
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?
http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/imarine/19160.asp
General Rules
crasny1
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Correct
You pass each other head on Port to port, ie Left to left, and that mean you stay right. Im sure you all know "there is no port left in the bottle"
"I would like to die on Mars. Just not on impact!!" _ Elon Musk
sarcasm0
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Any red port left?
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crasny1
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Yeh mate thats true
I forgot you get white port. LOL
"I would like to die on Mars. Just not on impact!!" _ Elon Musk
sarcasm0
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I would have a look at
www.yakfishwest.com <-- Kayak fishing enthusiast forum
http://www.canoe.org.au/ <--- Australian Canoeing who look after all certification and training for canoe/kayak activities.
I think as reefmonkey said, get the RST booklet and read it. What happens if people are uncertain or just dont know the rules of the road is it confuses all the other waterway users. They expect you to act a certain way - such as the "look to the right, give way to the right, turn to the right and stay to the right" rule. When you use it in practice, you will see that two vessels of any type in a head on course who follow the rule and turn right CANNOT collide as they both turn away to the right. If one vessel turns left or does not alter course that is when there is a potential for collision. BTW, these rules are INTERNATIONAL so they work anywhere in the world - rivers, lakes, dams and ocean all follow the same convention to avoid confusion. This avoids one skipper from Europe and one from Australia meeting and using different avoidence techniques.
Ashenfall
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i see
Very informative, cheers everyone. Anything else I need to know? I have 3 more days to find out everything