Peoples thoughts on catching Pink Snapper in the sound this time of year!
Submitted by Hook_er on Wed, 2012-10-17 16:45
are you allowed to catch and release big pinks in the sound when the ban is on??
wouldnt mind heading out, catching some squid and whitting then having a snapper bash!
will this put too much stress on the spawnnig snapper? (surely not).
cheers for your thoughts.
till
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Totally banned.
Totally banned.
thewom
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You could get busted if
You could get busted if fisheries pulled you up just for having your bottom bouncing gear rigged up. Dont try the 'i was just chasing sharks' line either theyve heard it all before.
niloc1984
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There has been people fishing
There has been people fishing out at D9 every day this week! Really dont think its fair on the honest guys. 2 boats out there all day today, besides its a complete demersal ban at the moment.
little johnny
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bud
a heap off old timers fish d9 for yellow tail.skip and herring...demersal ban...not no fishing at all..i work at alcoa and on my shift we have kick ass scope..80% off time its people tagging(fisheries ect..) ..//(PEOPLE FISHING D9 NOT FAIR..ON HONEST GUYS???) i was there trolling lures with my boys last few days getting some cracker tailor...checked both times by fisheries ....you still can target other fish in sound besides pinks....
chris raff
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Wouldn't target them
Wouldn't target them personally ...not sure if it's illegal though...I caught 2 sharks yesterday on bottom rigs could easily have been snaps which I would've released..
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tim-o
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But Im fishin for mulloway
But Im fishin for mulloway and gummys sir.....
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Bluetonic
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You used to get a lot of
You used to get a lot of Mullas at this time of year in the sound. Tricky one!
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little johnny
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funny thing is
i do go for mullaway this time off year ..slight dfferent rig and bait... and i do keep away from popular snapper spots ...they cant stop you fishing if you do happen to catch pink.dont lift out off water into your boat,just cut trace..pinks taste like crap this time off year anyway.
spanishmackeral
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You can lift pinks into the
You can lift pinks into the boat mate, just dont keep em there. Better to take the time to pull the hook out than leave it in.
little johnny
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sorry one more thing
last year i was diving for razor fish ...i had a note on my car in capitals 2 WEEKS BEFORE CRAB SEASON OPENED( you have been reported to fishwatch ..do you know ,you are not allowed to catch crabs.it is closed season ) Me being me went the next day (with butchers paper in my back and front window,saying something very clear) .wasnt nice /guess what fisheries there ...they didnt even know limit on razor fish also the lady has never seen one..i only was getting 10 each dive ...to heavey to swim back in with limit....dont get me wrong fishwatch good ..but if you fish heaps doesnt mean you are doing wrong thing ....sorry last comment on subject....
Spitfire56
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Guys actually read the rules
Few myths in your comments guys, possession of gear ect is bad info
little johnny
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spitfire sorry
what do you mean ?..last 3 trips in sound had 5 to 6lb gear with lures ? ..mullys this time off year are mint in sound..?
Spitfire56
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Sorry should have been clear
Little John, referring to thewoms comments. Fisheries questioning bottom bouncing gear
Spitfire56
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Little Johnny
In reference to your comment- rent a cops on power trips buddy! Nothing better to do then waste your time
little johnny
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okay
got it ,,,all good ..
Walfootrot
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Hey, you can go fishing as
Hey, you can go fishing as much as you like, just cant land pinks or dhu etc,
so ya see some boats out around some known snapper spots... so what??
I go to a bank once a week, does that make me a robber??
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Pete
More drum lines, kill the bloody sharks!
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Wtf
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I could never seem to find a
I could never seem to find a good definition of "Ironic" on the internet, cheers for that.
Versus
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well, here i was thinking
well, here i was thinking people were having a good ol' discussion about the merits/legality of a chosen topic.
Spitfire56
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Just read the rules- can fish, just don't take
Cockburn and Warnbro Sounds – closed season,
1 October – 31 January (inclusive)
Cockburn Sound is the site of the largest known aggregations of pink snapper in the West Coast region and is thought to be critical to the maintenance of adequate breeding stocks of these long-lived and slow-growing fish.
It is illegal to be in possession of pink snapper while fishing in the waters of Cockburn and Warnbro Sounds during the closed season. However, pink snapper taken outside the Sounds
may be transported through, and landed within, Cockburn and Warnbro Sound during the closed season.
little johnny
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spot on
Starbug
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I've posted this on another
I've posted this on another forum topic... but I'll repost it here.
http://www.slp.wa.gov.au/legislation/statutes.nsf/main_mrtitle_1458_homepage.html
Regulation 45.
It's pretty clear.
meglodon
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dead on starbug
yep thats what the regs state have found good mulla in the sound this time of year DoF have always been there when i have landed good to see them being visable and doing their job
Fisher Kid
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I was down at the baot show
I was down at the baot show talking to the fisheries guys , and they said that they could fine me just for having a paternoster dropper rig on my rod, if they suspected i was fishing for snapper, or demersals.
Fishing and catching are two different things. But i want to learn how to catch.
Starbug
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That's a bit of a grey area.
That's a bit of a grey area. The term "fishing for" is not defined withing the regulations, so unless that point has been ruled on previously, and chances it has, you may have a chance of argueing it in court. Though it would be an expensive argument.
I think the fisheries view is "If they susspect you of fishing for demersals, and you have a heavy bottom rig set up" Then they will book you and you can argue the point in court.
Personaly, I prefer to keep out of the "Grey Zone".
Rob H
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while it is a bit of a grey
while it is a bit of a grey area, Id tend to think a judge who is dealing with rapes murders and drug dealers everyday would possibly be a bit annoyed at dragging someone in for tying a fish hook the wrong way.
Not a comment on actually fishing for them, but to do with "carrying a paternoster rig" if I was genuine I think Id call their bluff.
Fisheries do a great job but they ARENT god either.
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chris raff
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I always use a paternoster
for kg's and skip's ...same setup as for snapper with fresh squid and on 6/0's circles ...suppose could downsize hooks and leader that'd be about it...don't want dramas ( I hate grey areas )
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Adam Gallash
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different courts
Would be dealt with in different courts Rob. But yes, it would come down to intent and how that can be proved. What style of gear and equipment is used would help determine that, but yes, pretty finicky really.
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hahahaha
hahahaha
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That is piss funny
That is piss funny
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WTFx2
Disturbing little creature. Let's hope you are the victim of a hit and run.
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Rob H
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what a crack up
what a crack up hitnrun
pun not intended
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tim-o
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Haha, been a few weeks since
Haha, been a few weeks since the last trollathon, hey man was that at the d9, im thinkn of givin it a shot tonight. Im sure everyone has been guilty of speeding every once in a while on the road
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Hook_er
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Might
Might give it a miss then eh?!
Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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Cockburn Sound Snapper!
"catch and release" of Pink Snapper in Cockburn Sound isnt allowed!
Disrupting and accidental killing of spawning snapper isnt a good practice!
Fisheries know where mulloway are caught and "most" shallow water snapper spots dont hold mulla!!!
If your chasing bait at snapper spots no worries but people are watching if your fishing from sundown to high tide!!!!!!!
I've been tagging 3-4 nights a week of late and compliance has been very good (thanks to the majority ) but "just a few" are doing the wrong thing (no excuses) but after a few phone calls to Fisheries they are out and about sorting them out
Rob H
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I totally agree with the gist
I totally agree with the gist here, of targetting catch and release snapper etc.
But just cos "Fisheries know where mulloway are caught", I just dont see how they could possibly prosecute someone genuinely fishing for something else on a paternoster rig.
If they dont publish all the mulloway spots in the Government Gazette, how could a nooby (or someone who fishes occasionally) possibly know he is in the "wrong" spot, let alone be prosecuted for it.
As I said before-Fisheries do a great job, but they are NOT god.
What will they tell the judge?
"No your honour its not illegal to use that rig or fish in that spot, but we reckon he might have kept a snapper if he had the opportunity"
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
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Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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?
I just dont see how they could possibly prosecute someone genuinely fishing for something else on a paternoster rig.
They wouldnt prosecute they would "warn" the angler that was " catching and releasing pink snapper" and make them aware!
If they continued or had "prior' issues in the past it would be addressed!
The " Fisheries know where mulloway are caught and "most" shallow water snapper spots dont hold mulla!!!" comment was made as thats the excuse of a select few chasing pink snapper in Cockburn Sound in 5-12m of water during the ban
tim-o
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Hmmm, might hang a round the
Hmmm, might hang a round the d9 to get a visit from fisheries, will it take a golden handshake for them to tell of some mulla spots????lol
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