Reel Advice

hi guys,

I'm slowing upgrading my gear before my trip to the Montes in September. I havnt got a million bucks to play with as I'm still saving some dosh for the trip. I just bought a Saltist 6500H for some bottom bouncing and throwing plugs for GT's, and I'm now on the hunt for a reel to jig with. The saltist LD20 looks like good bang for your buck, and I was wondering if I could get away with trawling with it as well? Looking at some other posts going bigger in the LD range will be too wide to jig with. Having said that would the 6500 suffice for trawling also?

Any advice would help. Cheers Camo

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Trawling? No. Trolling? Yes.

Tue, 2011-01-25 14:55

Trawling? No. Trolling? Yes. Is a lever drag reel and has a ratchet, so should go fine for light trolling. Holds 600m of 20lb tufline (no backing) plus about 100m of 10kg mono.

 

Not the most fun to jig with (I just dont like small overheads for light jigging) but should suffice no problems. Would be a good all round reel if you're driftbaiting, trolling, octa/pirates and even plastics might be ok with the right rod. For a trip, you should be alright jigging with it. If you had to pick one reel, its a pretty good choice. I wouldnt be running more than 30lb with it and make sure you match it to the right rod.

 

edit: I use mine a fair bit. Caught a fair few species with different methods on it. It has quite a quick retreive rate but you can still crank in sinkers and stuff fairly easily. Seems to rip line in nicely (fished up to about 16oz sinkers with it). The fast retreive is also nice for pump and wind, you only need a short turn of the handle to recover the slack line nice and quick. The handle knob is the best i've used too (or at least on par with the SOM ones). Quite compact and palmable. The lever sometimes gets a bit stuck though :( Also, try not to get it too wet as salt can build up under the lever or get into the handle bearing. Overally its a good little reel though and quite versatile.

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Maybe have a look at the Fin

Tue, 2011-01-25 15:51

Maybe have a look at the Fin nor Marquesa's, the 12 size might be for you very smooth out of the box but I haven't punished one yet. Cheap at Mo's at the moment.

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Fair bit of a weight

Tue, 2011-01-25 16:01

Fair bit of a weight difference between the marquesa and the saltist. Presumably a size difference too?

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I think they're too fast for

Tue, 2011-01-25 18:20

I think they're too fast for jigging as well.

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Thanks guys, What's the

Tue, 2011-01-25 16:38

Thanks guys,
What's the weight of the marquesa and line rating? If you know.
I thinking around pe3 should suffice. I'm mainly targeting reds up there when jigging, but at the same time if I troll with it It'll have to be able to deal with some sizable spaniards.

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Camo I have a Shimano

Tue, 2011-01-25 16:47

Camo

 

I have a Shimano OceaJigger NR1500P I use for PE3 jigging with a Hearty Rise PE1.5-3 jig rod.......sweetest set-up I have, and one of the few overhead jig reels that are narrow enough to not have to worrry about laying line on the spool.....they are seriously narrow.

 

Has unbelievable power for small reel, and has handled pretty big sambos with ease on PE3. Can jig down to 120g and up to 250 g. I think Daz is goinf to put PE4 on his which is well within the ability of the reel.

 

JDM spec only, for around $500, so not cheap, but top quality. I would buy another. Saltist a much cheaper option and not a bad reel by all accounts, but you get what you pay for. 

 

John

 

 

 

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do you mean you jig up to

Tue, 2011-01-25 19:51

do you mean you jig up to 250g on the HR 1.5-3 rod??

i'd have thought it'd have trouble moving a jig at that weight.

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Definately capable of 250g

Tue, 2011-01-25 20:01

Definately capable of 250g Graham, just have to alter your technique slightly. Jig at lower and shorter angles with the heavier weights.

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well , i'll have to give that

Wed, 2011-01-26 08:48

well , i'll have to give that a try.

and judging by that , i could probably try jigging up to 400 grams on the JM 250.  that'll save some coin.

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It's ok, I just checked it

Tue, 2011-01-25 16:49

It's ok, I just checked it out. I think hue gear ratio might be a bit quick for jigging at 6:1. And as hlokk says it's a bit weighty too.
Any advice on rods? Daiwa have a rod for the ld series that says it's good for trolling and jigging, but I'd love to hear some first hand advice on the rods and reels.

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thanks John

Tue, 2011-01-25 16:54

They certainly look the goods, I'm trying to keep the whole setup around the $500-600 mark.
Maybe I'll hold off for the now and see how the finances are closer to the date. Mind you I'd like to get a few test runs in before I go.
Appreciate the advice
What sort of dollars am I looking at for the hearty rise?

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Jigging and Trolling...

Tue, 2011-01-25 17:39

You're fine with the Saltist Lever Drag reel. Its compact and leverdrag.

What we do suggest but is up the braid size a bit to PE 4 or 40-50lb. 30lb is just abit light for trolling (braid is not the best for trolling to start with). Don't forget Montes are well known for their big hard running Mackies and even bigger Sharks. You won't have enough pressure to put on 30lb.

You can also look at the slightly wider Saltist 30LD as well. Just so you can get more line on there plus your windon leader.

You'll also need the higher gear ratio for the jigging. The spool on the reel is very short in diameter therefore only winds on bugger all line per revolution. So best to go high gear ratio in this case.

Suitable rod will have to be around PE4 -5 line class. The Hearty Rise is gonna be too light for that kind of work as well.

We recommend the Ugly Stik Bluewater graphite jig rod PE5 max, at around $200, good value!!

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I would listen to Honsu......

Tue, 2011-01-25 18:46

I would listen to Honsu, he is most probably right. The PE3 is sweet for the lighter stuff and more than adequate for just about anything Metro Perth will throw at you, but the Hearty Rise is probably not up to scratch at the Monties....

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 Come on honsu PE3 is fine at

Tue, 2011-01-25 19:32

 Come on honsu PE3 is fine at the monties, just look at the avatar!!!!! hahahahah. 

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Thanks Honsu, Do you guys

Tue, 2011-01-25 19:42

Thanks Honsu,
Do you guys stock the ugly bluewater? At least that combo will come in my budget including line.

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Ugly Stik Bluewater

Tue, 2011-01-25 21:47

Yes we do mate, even got the Saltist 30LD as well. Drop by and check it out.

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