Replacing trebles with singles

 Hi all,

I have had enough of loosing herring and tailor on trebles so l now want to give single hooks a go. But all the normal single hooks l have been trying to put on dont fit on to the split ring is there a different type of single hooks you can that have a bigger eye on to put on the split ring. Also with salmon season coming what do you guys use on your lures singles or trebles.

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 Have a look for in-line lure

Sun, 2017-03-12 14:56

 Have a look for in-line lure singles, made for lures and have a good hookup rate.

I prefer singles on all my casting metals as I fish heavy reef areas often and lose a lot of gear. With singles you get snagged a lot less and therefore lose less lures

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Any dedicated tackle shop...

Sun, 2017-03-12 15:22

...will stock in-line singles (eye turned 90°), in whatever size you need. Definitely the go for salmon/herring, and better than trebles for yellowfin whiting, although I use assists for them.

 

My personal preference is trebles for tailor. They slash wildly at a lure, maybe even a sideswipe, and my theory is you need as many hookpoints as possible in that scenario. 

 

Singles are better also in that, they snag up less, as previously mentioned, less likely to pick up weed during your retrieve, and of course, way less damage to you, as well as the fish if you're planning release.

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 If you're using a quick

Sun, 2017-03-12 15:31

 If you're using a quick retrieve for tailor then yes, trebles can be better but I've found with a slowish retrieve hookup rate is still very good with singles plus they stay stuck a lot better than trebles when the fish jump

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Decoy in lines mate is what I

Sun, 2017-03-12 16:52

Decoy in lines mate is what I use singles are a must for catch and release tailor salmon ect 3\0-6/0 As for herring 5-10 gram metal with a upgraded small sharp treble I think the assist hook set up would work well on the hezzas also

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Thanks

Sun, 2017-03-12 20:00

 Thanks for your help what do you mean by decoy in lines and for the salmon can l just put a 5/0 mustard j hook on a Smilen jack lure

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No you can't.

Sun, 2017-03-12 20:51

 In line singles have the eye turned at a 90° angle so they hang properly from the lure. It sounds as if you're trying to put standard bait hooks on. Simply won't work. Points will be facing sideways and the swimming action of the lure will be ruined.

I will say again...go to a dedicated tackle shop, NOT Kmart or Big W, and ask for them. And 5/0 may be a tad big for the Smilin Jacks...again, ask the shop assistant. Too big (heavy) will also hurt the lure's movement.

 

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Thanks

Sun, 2017-03-12 20:57

yeah now l get it l will probably stick to a 4/0 for the Smilen jack

Thanks for your help 

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For catch and release

Sun, 2017-03-12 19:56

I think the single hook is the way to go if you have catch and release in mind, less damage to the fish and less chance of hooking yourself.

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 Ethan, pop across from

Mon, 2017-03-13 06:14

 Ethan, pop across from Dardanup to Treendale. We stock a large range of Decoys and other brands. Rapala lures are already to go with singles and are  stronger lure than the smilin jack for only an extra $9

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Make sure to use a split ring

Mon, 2017-03-13 06:32

 i change all my lures to singles these days.  Less damage to the fish, less chance of getting caught in the landing net, and less chance of damage to myself!

Just make sure to use good split rings between the attachment point and the single.

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 Another note: You can

Mon, 2017-03-13 14:30

 Another note:

 You can generally use a larger single hook than trebles to replace the stock trebles on lures so long as they don't tangle with each other.

 Some lures have pretty sensitive buoyancy and if the single is too light, it will not perform optimally. 

 If you are wanna save some $$, use your J hook but 2 split rings to align the orientation of the hook against the lure's body. In many cases, 2 split rings are too many and can cause your hooks to fowl on the lure itself or another hook.

Some singles that I use:

 Decoy plugging singles ( Looks like J hooks with inline eye)

 Owner S-125 -works great on trolling and heavy sinking minnows

 BKK Diablos for poppers & stickbaits (large)

 Mustad Kaiju inline singles. (cheapest!) Saw them in tackleworld sometime ago. I have tested the Mustad Kaijus in previous salmons seasons - works a treat . Even if the fish engulfs the lures, it does minimal damage to the fish. They were used in minnows, poppers & metal spoons.

 Decoy sergent singles - I didn't have luck with them so stop using. Put them on my Jackson Pintail 56g- went through several mackies with multiple slash marks without hooking up. Since then I stop using them.

 

 

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I've also found rigging a

Mon, 2017-03-13 16:35

I've also found rigging a single on a short length of Dracon (as in a jig assist hook) and having it an inch or so behind the lure works well on salmon.  Helps when they jump as they lose the leaverage to throw the lure.  I know someone who uses 3 split rings to the hook for the same reason.

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Mon, 2017-03-13 16:36

 I changed a few of mine to Mustad Hoodlums. They worked well too.

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 Go buy cheap pre rigged

Mon, 2017-03-13 18:16

 Go buy cheap pre rigged assist hooks (for micro jigging )

remove trebles and run a single or even double assist hook at the back of your lure 

will smash it, and as someone in here told me to do look in Bargin bins at front of most tackle stores and you'll find assist hooks often

 

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Split rings

Mon, 2017-03-13 18:56

Not trying to high jack the thread. But is there a quick way to to replace split rings? Using a pair of pliers is proving to be a long slow process.  

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 Halco ring pliers are good

Mon, 2017-03-13 19:07

 Halco ring pliers are good for small rings thru to large. A lot of other nramds can be a bit more size restricted. Cost about $ 25

 

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Thanks

Mon, 2017-03-13 19:08

 

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 Halco ring pliers are good

Mon, 2017-03-13 19:11

 Halco ring pliers are good for small rings thru to large. A lot of other brands can be a bit more size restricted. Cost about $ 25

 

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Split ring pliers

Mon, 2017-03-13 19:32

A decent set of split ring pliers makes it very easy. 

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