Shark fishing ban
Submitted by davewillo on Mon, 2023-02-13 12:36
Don Punch has said he's looking at the possibility of banning all land-based shark fishing in WA. This is exactly what a lot of people said would happen and it's just another example of them taking away fishing rights.
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Faulkner Family
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Just what we need.
Just what we need. Less sharks caught = more people being butten.
And what happens if your targeting other bug species and happen to catch a shark. Are we meant to give it a kiss and let it go.
RUSS and SANDY. A family that fishes together stays together
scottland
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Will never pass
I can see a metro ban best case scenario a day time ban. The most likely scenario will be a wore trace ban in wa
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selthy
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Not sure how this will go
Not sure how this will go down but here goes...
I'm on the fence with this suggestion, particularly for metro wateers. I love fishing and feel we should be aloud to target whatever species we choose. I also feel we should all respect the freedoms we have, and to help ensure they remain do the right thing for all (other fishos, non-fishos etc). But I know not everyone holds the same values and some are just focused on themselves...
Between christmas and new year I was at Pinaroo point with the family at around 10:30am. Whilst there, a group of 3 20-somethings rock up with heavy gear and start setting up approx 50m away from us. I see the big baits (full mullet) come out, and tossed into the water. None of this I have any real concerns with but... then out comes the metal stake, onion bag and whatever concoction of oily bloody stuff they could get in there. After 10 to 15 minutes, big oil slick across the water. During our time there my brother in-law tells me he spotted a rather large shadow moving in the water, but could not confirm exactly what it was.
My point, It's not the fishing I am uncomfortable with, it's the berlying up at local beaches. Although, in saying this I too burley up with the standard pollard or pre mix when chasing herring and would not hesitate to burley up a big bloody mix of fish offal at a non-local beach when targeting mulloway.
We have all seen the regular reports of Shark sightings at Whitfords and Mullaloo beach this summer and I can't help but think that certain human behaviours have contributed to this. I'm not sure how I feel about a ban on ''shark fishing', wire traces or the like, but maybe it is time to ban burleying up at metro beaches.
Would love to hear the views of others on here.
Bodgy 79
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Fair call there is a time
Fair call there is a time and place
keg
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i would feel safer
the sharks they are targeting are already in the area. if they have bait and burley in the water they will be going for that rather than you
Bodgy 79
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I'm not at all into a ban as
I'm not at all into a ban as I do a bit of shark fishing myself but we need no be sensible about it and have a bit of curtesy towards others.I wouldn't like 10kg of chum dropped in the water 50m from were my kids are swimming,that's the sort of shit the pricks with the cameras take to the media for them to blow it up
Pete F
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We were warned back when they
We were warned back when they legislated the wire ban at port beach. They said then f people keep targeting large sharks metro they would legislate further. Some people just don't care or don't get it, we will all pay the price in the long run if they ban wire, gangs, heavy line, drones, and make keeping even a small one illegal. This is what is currently being proposed under city of Cockburn and what is driving the ministers response.
A few people wrecking it for everyone else, no sympathy gest get in a 4wd and go do it out of sight accept you no longer have a social licence to catch big sharks of swimming beaches.
Cheers
little johnny
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They don’t like
Seeing the truth . Scares people . Burley makes no difference. So every herring fisherman using any type of fish oil in their mix with pollard ( on beach) should also be looked at . How many fishing shows do you see where they tip oil in sand to attract whiting . Herring / tailor , waves come in oil goes out . ( no one complains about it) . Every time big scary shark gets caught they blame burley . The truth is Shark numbers very high pretty simple . They will try anything to stop everyone from being able to fish . Good on the guys who target sharks on beach . Never done it but some pretty impressive catches . Next be no fish oils or baits allowed . Knee jerk reaction from many tree huggers . There is big shark issue ( they will not admit it) said it in another post ( very sad they put human life in front of a shark) dog bites someone ( put down ) croc takes someone it’s gone . Someone breaks into your house gets hurt ( you get sued) . Friggin joke . Take pressure of demersals . Let pros harvest shark issue ( good money for them and government) . Years ago crocs up north use to fear humans ( not now) years ago never seen many big sharks ( not now ) must be because amature fisherman catch to much .also do not forget fruit and vegetables have feelings .
Gav475
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Ban
Havnt they banned enough in this state already. Next thing will be a annual psych test to renew your fishing license. In case you arnt aware you now need a licence, separate for summer or winter, to gather fire wood. This state is out of control. Give nothing more up. We have very little left as it is.
Brock O
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Massive campaign on atm by a
Massive campaign on atm by a noisy group who are going to get there way, wont be long and it will pass 100%.
He should make the change to bring back the Pro shark fishing at the same time, allowing existing Pro licenses to shark fish instead of chasing Demersal during Spawning periods.
Campaigners win one hand but lose the other.
Faulkner Family
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Certainly wouldn't be a
Certainly wouldn't be a shortage of flake to go around.
Back years ago flake was the go to fish for fish and chip shops as it was cheap and tasty . Not so cheap any more. Now they go with imported garbage . Unless your willing to pay premium for a feed.
RUSS and SANDY. A family that fishes together stays together
davewillo
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I bloody loved my bit of
I bloody loved my bit of flake from the fish 'n' chip shop as a kid Russ, and I was a fussy little prick!
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Faulkner Family
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I still eat plenty of it ,
I still eat plenty of it , just catch and cook it myself now lol . Lots cheaper
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still trying
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I don't land many sharks
I don't land many sharks they always bite through my 40lb leaders but the wobbies in my pots taste great
rather be fishing
still trying
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The government's ideas of
The government's ideas of lets make less shark attacks by leaving more sharks in the system is not very intelligent to say the least.
rather be fishing
davewillo
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Absolutely! Nothing in
Absolutely! Nothing in recent times surrounding fishing is very intelligent IMO.
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Stax
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We have had a 5000% increase
We have had a 5000% increase in sales on Shark Gear. (lLarge hooks and Steel wire, premade traces, etc) and we are almost always running out of whole Mullet.
I ask where they intend to fish and most are "in the river". Some as far up as Garvey Park.
Already had 2 confimed catches and photos to boot. They did not return the shark to the river. They were only small Bull sharks at 1-1.2 metres, maybe 10Kg.
I will let you know if the numbers increase.
SpotHound
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Fish Market
I regularly see big females up river around fish market reserve in Guilford.
rob90
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I saw a half eaten mulla
I saw a half eaten mulla floating up there last week
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rob90
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I remember as a kid we would
I remember as a kid we would fish late nights at Garvey for bream. We would always hear massive splashes in the shallows under the trees we worked out it was small bull sharks snatching rats off the surface as they would come out of the drains and swim along the surface.
Hi my name is rob............. and I'm a........... fishaholic
Livewire
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A mate showed me a picture
A mate showed me a picture of a big dhu bitten off behind the gills. A few on here have mentioned sharks taking there fish locally. The big bronzes we see during the white run, all adds up in what could be a beginning of what the North see every day. Let the pros fish with a quota. Supply the local chip shops with some decent fillets. Instead of the silver cobbler , basa, hoki, etc. Jobs organic free range sharks
cruzy111
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From what ive seen in
From what ive seen in Exmouth all I can say is the day is coming soon. All these guys that are winging have only themeselves to blame by amping up some seriously brain dead idiots on social media that have never fished before in their lives. No idea. Set up shop on main swimming beaches drinking piss swearing there heads off. You have to laugh. As I say to everyone you can only control what you do.
Pete F
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Exactly we can only control
Exactly we can only control what we do, unfortunately we all suffer the consequences though.
Cheers
hezzy
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common sense would argue that
common sense would argue that the only ban needed is the use of mammal blood and mammal products in burley
no need to ban shark fishing anywhere
just the above imo
however common sense is short in supply and minister punch can and will do what he wants , regardless of if its effective or the best option
expect a total ban in metro as a minimum with this bloke making the decisions
hezzy
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Jackfrost80
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I'm on the fence with this
I'm on the fence with this one as the optics of blokes fishing for sharks in the middle of a packed Mullaloo beach aren't great. A good compromise for Metro fishing may be allowing shark fishing between sunset and sunrise?
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
davewillo
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Not a bad compromise Frosty.
Not a bad compromise Frosty. I also agree with Hezzy on banning the use of mammal products. There are definitely ways to allow shark fishing to stay and keep people safe at the same time.
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Swompa
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Thats all good but you will
Thats all good but you will still get the dead shits who leave a finned or stabbed shark either on the beach or in the shallows to roll around in the surf.
sea-kem
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Yep something liek that
Yep something liek that roils the armchair critics. Sadly there's na good supply of those wankers whom do that.
I see Troy Mercanti is now a shark fisherman lol
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Swompa
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I did see the comments about
I did see the comments about what was the most dangerous thing in the photo...
Wes F
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Never stop these beasts swim our coast line and rivers
au.news.yahoo.com/fishermans-warning-catching-huge-shark-aussie-tourist-spot-030547724.html
Old fishermen never die they just smell that way.
Wes F
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Never stop these beasts swim our coast line and rivers
au.news.yahoo.com/fishermans-warning-catching-huge-shark-aussie-tourist-spot-030547724.html
Old fishermen never die they just smell that way.
Jim
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Everyone should relax you
Everyone should relax you have a higher chance of being stung by a bee. Well...unless you get in the water!
Bend over
woody
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Its the few young metro
Its the few young metro fishers doing the wrong thing that is giving shark fishos a bad name, full of self-entitlement and not giving any thought about other people. Not many but enough to cause the spotlight to be cast on us all.
Jeez theres even a fanatical FB page, run by a sappy mole called Lisa Jane Hill and the biggest flog I've ever seen, Leon Deschamps, dedicated to banning trophy shark fishing across WA because pretend tio care for the welfare of caught and released sharks and more worringly they wrongly claim it causes shark attacks. Join their page and if they get a whiff you might have something intelligent to say that doesn't fit their agenda they ban and block you !! Yet they dont seem to have a care for the welfare of billfish which are caught and released worldwide?
We fish for sharks down here in Esperance, away from swimming beaches, don't burley as brings in rays and love to keep a legal bronzie for the freezer if we are lucky enough to catch one. But I'll be bloody shittty if these crazed tree huggers get it banned statewide by appealing to muppet greenies with false information.
Best thing I can see to appease both sides in the city is dedicate certain beaches to fishing?
woody
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Its the few young metro
Its the few young metro fishers doing the wrong thing that is giving shark fishos a bad name, full of self-entitlement and not giving any thought about other people. Not many but enough to cause the spotlight to be cast on us all.
Jeez theres even a fanatical FB page, run by a sappy mole called Lisa Jane Hill and the biggest flog I've ever seen, Leon Deschamps, dedicated to banning trophy shark fishing across WA because pretend tio care for the welfare of caught and released sharks and more worringly they wrongly claim it causes shark attacks. Join their page and if they get a whiff you might have something intelligent to say that doesn't fit their agenda they ban and block you !! Yet they dont seem to have a care for the welfare of billfish which are caught and released worldwide?
We fish for sharks down here in Esperance, away from swimming beaches, don't burley as brings in rays and love to keep a legal bronzie for the freezer if we are lucky enough to catch one. But I'll be bloody shittty if these crazed tree huggers get it banned statewide by appealing to muppet greenies with false information.
Best thing I can see to appease both sides in the city is dedicate certain beaches to fishing?
Brock O
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Punch was just on 6PR
Punch was just on 6PR again...with Enviro Lisa, new rule set to come in affecting Two rocks to Tim's Thicket.
Wire trace no longer allowed.
I'm sure the lads who enjoy the shark fishing will find away around it..
tcarroll
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Just caught the news article
Just caught the news article online but not paid subscriber so couldn't read the details.... Was no use of wire trace the only rule? What else constitutes "shark fishing" in terms of enforcement?
Brock O
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Doesn't give details other
Doesn't give details other than the wire trace, anything up to 800m out from the beach, covering Two rocks to Tims Thicket.
This all in the name of Puplic Safety.
rob90
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Mulloway fishing with nylon
Mulloway fishing with nylon coated wire will become very popular. Not to mention most shark fishing is done at night while fisheries officers are in their frilly pjs praying to their Donald punch shrines. Nothing will change besides Donald's ego
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Brock O
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Western Angler magazine just
Western Angler magazine just dropped the below after one of Dons comments..
Don Punch: Released sharks are unpredictable and pose a greater threat to swimmers.
DPI NSW: "Preliminary analysis of satellite tagged sharks suggests that they often head further offshore immediately after release (for the first 24-48 hours)" it says on its Sharksmart website , suggesting catching a shark mitigates any immediate risk.
Wonder who knows more the Psychologist or the fishing scientists..
Saulty2
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the art of distracting
from demersal fishing ban . imo Punch is a wizard and laughing at us by pulling our chain