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I can't believe the amount around ( bronzes , tigers) back of island .


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 Lotta scent in the water

Sun, 2020-11-22 19:53

 Lotta scent in the water back there only gonna get worse  you'd think , you see some today ? 

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Where iam

Sun, 2020-11-22 20:15

Biggest bronzy I’ve ever seen. Other vids I’ve seen different depths and areas behind island last few days . One guy had 3 . Tiger and 2 bronzes . Another today 2 tigers . Good thing no whites . Good old cray pots . Big burley bombs

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 We had 3 following cray pot

Sun, 2020-11-22 20:23

 We had 3 following cray pot up yesterday first time I have seen them in that area before and were waiting for me to throw pot back in. 

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 Ha yeah buggar that  you

Sun, 2020-11-22 20:23

 Ha yeah buggar that  you divers have bigger balls than me , hopefully you don't come across  anymore out there

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 The same big bronze keeps

Sun, 2020-11-22 20:25

 The same big bronze keeps showing on the back of little island trailing a big line out its mouth. 

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They shy away from shark sheild

Sun, 2020-11-22 20:52

Boy got buzzed last week stayed 4 to 6 meters away ( that was the big bronze whaler. )Didn’t show any aggression at all. Wouldn’t like 3 or 4 around at once . Guy up cable beach not good news .

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 Shark problem is just as bad

Mon, 2020-11-23 04:22

 Shark problem is just as bad here in Broome, overcast day yesterday up here. RIP

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 last year this time (ie pots

Mon, 2020-11-23 10:00

 last year this time (ie pots everywhere) I got buzzedd by a 3.5-4m bronzie stragglers area, the thing was like a submarine!

had shark shield on, didnt appear to react to it. Did a lap of me then kept swimming. didnt have much air left so meant I had to just get back to boat. mate still in water, not overly pleasant experience but survived to tell the tail! 

mate yesterday same off hilary's and had one follow up pot this morning off hilary's. if I had gun would be less around that's for sure.

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LJ like I said the other day

Mon, 2020-11-23 10:11

When you loose 17 in four hours in the Sound with minimal burley when chasing gummies you get to realise just how bad it has become. Take your choice, tigers, bronzies and black tips.   I will be buggered if I would get in the water now and used to be a fanatical diver. Stay safe everyone  

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All the pinks in sound

Mon, 2020-11-23 17:54

Attracting them . ( in sound) I here they lost the south side of mussel farm in 2 days .( pinks belted it) . Always going to be sharks ,there numbers unreal this year. Spoke to mate this morn . Back of pengo seems the same .

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 But LJ all the Face book

Mon, 2020-11-23 18:39

 But LJ all the Face book experts say there's no food for them. That's why they come in close and attack people, figure that one out.  

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Best Time

Mon, 2020-11-23 18:39

Used to love fishing beaches at night from the Old Cut in Bunbury right through to ledges north of Preston beach around this time of the year, big baits and wire trace , sit back with a beer and wait for the arms to get longer when you hooked up.

Mind you , this was going back some 45 odd  years and it sounds like the cycles has returned. Was nothing to get 15-20 hook up a night and having no limits on sharks then, take home 4-5 good bronzies each.

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I actually like bronzies

Mon, 2020-11-23 18:57

To eat . There pretty good . Im led to believe mussel farm lost 30 ton to pinks within 2 days . Must be decent school of pinks there. ( none around apparently) Won’t make a dent in Forrests bank account . Not one of the big sharks I’ve seen this year has tag in it . The fisheries vessel That tags sharks would have a ball around pots atm. With hot weather coming more and more people using water ( diving , swimming ect) only matter of time . Yes it is there domain we are entering , but when you put human life second to sharks . Gets you thinking.

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 There's problem right there

Mon, 2020-11-23 22:09

 There's problem right there like carnarvinit said people you to take them now they don't 3 mtr plus bronzies are a  problem to any one in the water and it won't get better with a maximum size and the save the sh add rk brigade. 

 

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 Somethings got to be done

Tue, 2020-11-24 12:23

 Somethings got to be done alright...

Like I saw 2 shopping at Aldi the other night, 4 of them hogging the Smith machine at my gym and heard 1 attacked and ate a small child at Mayland's Primary.

When are these sharks going to learn its our fucking ocean and they have no right to stop me and the boys taking a shit ton of fish when and where we want.

Fishos Lives Matter

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Smith machine...lol. Were

Tue, 2020-11-24 13:09

Smith machine...lol. Were they using it to warm up for the Foxy Boxing class?

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Tell us more about the foxy

Tue, 2020-11-24 14:35

Tell us more about the foxy boxing class Jack !

You and your 'partner' recommended it ?

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Yeah yeah Save your rant

Wed, 2020-11-25 14:47

Yeah yeah Save your rant pestacore we all know your a shark loving tosser

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And we all know

Wed, 2020-11-25 15:15

you’re just a tosser curndog. 

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 Bit disappointed with my

Wed, 2020-11-25 15:19

 Bit disappointed with my original post t.b.h Cumdog

It only got the one dickhead biting.

Oh hang on, make that two....

 

Lol @ you.

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 The bum buds are rubbing

Wed, 2020-11-25 16:15

 The bum buds are rubbing them together again 

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 Are you imagining that

Wed, 2020-11-25 16:50

 You imagine gay things often Cumdog or are you just describing your usual Saturday night ?

Here's your chance to come out....

 

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demersall season

Wed, 2020-11-25 19:48

yep demersal season is closed but dickhead season in full swing hahaha, one cast and 2 bites.  

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 It's too easy on this forum

Wed, 2020-11-25 20:37

 It's too easy on this forum MB....

Where else would you have these mouth breathers openly talking about rec and pro fishos flooding the metro waters with craypots full of stinking bait and still moan there seems to be a lot sharks about...

Lol unreal....

ill let the bait drift because I'm pretty sure I'll get another bite or three...

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There ya go

Wed, 2020-11-25 21:17

There ya go Pestacore.

Marinelass can spot you from behind and whisper sweet nothings about sharks while you do real squats. You could in turn teach Marinelass basic grammar and show him how to orient a photo. Win/Win.

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 You appear to have put a

Wed, 2020-11-25 21:47

 You appear to have put a fair bit of thought into these homosexual thoughts Jack....

Have you given any thought to sending Cumdog a PM ?

Never know your luck eh ... lol

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Orientation

Thu, 2020-11-26 19:55

that fish was soooooo heavy I felt the need to lay down, probably something you’ll never expierience jack frost hahaha.  

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Yeah I bet so old boy.

Fri, 2020-11-27 14:14

Yeah I bet so old boy. Probably get short of breath going put to the letterbox too

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Grammar

Fri, 2020-11-27 15:04

fuck jackfrost and you knock me for grammar, re read what you just wrote. What a dickhead hahaha.  

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Fucking lol Jackoff...Did you

Fri, 2020-11-27 15:19

Fucking lol Jackoff...

Did you suffer a stroke writing that or do you just enjoy continually embarrassing yourself ?

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The latter

Fri, 2020-11-27 16:27

bahahaha 

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Sharks

Tue, 2020-11-24 15:36

Sharks are certainly up and about, dropped 6 pots in the water at the back of the 5 Fathom Bank out of Mandurah on Saturday and bugger me as the last pots going over we were buzzed by a Tiger and a couple of others that didn't get as close, thought I was back at Exmouth. A lot of fish showing on the sounder, could have been pinks or even a Dhu or two.

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Tragic the young bloke

Tue, 2020-11-24 16:22

Tragic the young bloke missing...Still no trace of him. RIP

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Swimming at 8pm

Tue, 2020-11-24 19:29

Prob not the right time for a dip. But agree very tragic

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 And a poor swimmer.

Wed, 2020-11-25 10:25

 And a poor swimmer. Unfortunately a lot of new arrivals to our shores don't appreciate how dangerous the ocean can be. Sad loss for the family.

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 Ouch the mussle

Tue, 2020-11-24 20:26

 Ouch the mussle farm....

 

Heard today in Tassie they had an electrical fire on one of the salmon pens down there and lost 50,000 fish up to 4kg....

 

Aparently everyone took a sicky and was down there trying to get into the now wild fish....

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 Yep sharks are a problem all

Wed, 2020-11-25 16:44

 Yep sharks are a problem all over the place. I'm still a firm believer the government should be issuing shark licences all along our coast. People go diving and fishing for a feed and with sharks taking a % of the fish we hook up to we need to take more fish from the ocean to get the feed. Which in turn then puts pressure on the fish stocks 

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 I don't want to get into a

Wed, 2020-11-25 18:22

 I don't want to get into a debate - honest question - are bronzies really that dangerous ?

 

I know all sharks are potentially dangerous, but on a recent trip to the movies I encountered sharks every time I entered the water, which has maybe given me a false confidence around sharks.

 

I have this thought that:

A GWS or Tiger in metro waters is big trouble

A tiger up north is not so bad but still be cautious

A bull shark in the river means stay away (different if in open, clean ocean but still be cautious)

Hammerhead and tawny/Nurse sharks are generally ok, but maintain distance

Reef sharks are ok but keep an eye on their behaviour 

 

Have never known where to fit the bronzy....

 

Not saying I would ever purposely jump in with any of these models, but this is what gives me some level of (false) confidence !

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 I'd probably put the Bull at

Wed, 2020-11-25 20:47

 I'd probably put the Bull at the top of my list for most agressive and damaging, but like you say depending on circumstance, water clarity etc. 

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 In over 30 years of

Wed, 2020-11-25 21:09

 @ Francis

In over 30 years of spearfishing and even longer fishing from my boat I would rate sharks as an occasional if not rare nuisance. In the water, bar a few bronzes and small reef shark ive not seen or had an issue with a shark. If I had to fear one it would be a Bull Shark as they are well known to be be more prone to aggression than their bigger cousin the GW.

I recently read the partner of the Esperance diver taken by a GW (Gary Johnson) state that in 9 YEARS(!) of diving off Esperance only once did a bronzy show a level of interest in them.

That young girl that was swept off rocks down Dunners way...her body was recently found washed up. 

Dont buy into the rednecks on here's theory that there's that many sharks in the water you could run across the back of them from Cott to Rotto James Bond style...

Some fishos love moaning more than catching fish

Christ you can almost hear them frothing at the mouth as I write this...   LOL

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Obviously

Thu, 2020-11-26 19:58

You haven’t been in water lately . Are you a bream fisherman ?

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Lol 

Thu, 2020-11-26 20:19

Lol 

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 Well if Sea Kems missus

Thu, 2020-11-26 21:04

 Well if Sea Kems missus stops calling me when he goes to work id probably  get in the water a bit more often.

Know what i mean Johnny, nudge nudge...

Lol

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Funny

Thu, 2020-11-26 21:07

Got me . Good reply . Thumbs up.

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Bronzy very placid ( by themselves)

Wed, 2020-11-25 20:43

In 3s become pretty agro . Love to be able to put vid up .( all big buggers) tigers placid up north ( big fat buggers). Even metro ( placed) When there is more than one they get pack mentality . They totally change. Whites never encountered one in water and I don’t want to . All I know there is shit loads . Maybe because there is no professional fisherman like there normally is around where iam ? They normally follow them like blowflies . In the near future going to be bigger issue . Take max size limit of them as someone pointed out earlier. Problem solved .

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 8 tigers ,4 Bronzies and 2

Fri, 2020-11-27 17:56

 8 tigers ,4 Bronzies and 2 Grey Nurses all around 3.5m tagged on First lump between Carnac and Garden Island in 2 days last week.

16 Great Whites tagged in Cockburn in 8 years with lenghts between 2.5m and 4.5m

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 Source ?

Fri, 2020-11-27 20:15

 Source ?

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 Fisheries Research Shark

Fri, 2020-11-27 20:28

 Fisheries Research Shark team out of Freo.

 

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 Are you part of that team ?

Fri, 2020-11-27 21:11

 Are you part of that team ? How do you know these results and are they available to the public via the Fisheries website?

Also, just 16 Great Whites in 8 YEARS ? Certainly seems a bit low given the hyperbole on here at least.

Be great to get a link and read up on the program ?

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 The 16 Great White tags are

Sat, 2020-11-28 04:51

 The 16 Great White tags are just from Cockburn sound during the  last 8 years of the Snapper Closed season.

And yes we help out the team locate Sharks due our concern with the increased numbers and risk to local Water users.

 

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 Some interesting numbers

Sat, 2020-11-28 11:26

 Some interesting numbers Pom. Especially given id assume the two days consisted of 8hrs each right, say 16 hours or so in total thereabouts.

Thats a lhell of a ot of sharks in a 16 hour period for just ONE location by 2 crews would you agree ?

I cant find anything about a current shark tagging program on the Fiaheries website but its not the greatest site to navigate.

Do you have a link by chance ??

Failing that, I'll contact Fisheries Monday as I think the numbers you've provided certainly warrants a public notification.

I know the Spearfishermen fraternity would certainly like to know.

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 Yep way too many I sent you

Sat, 2020-11-28 12:42

 Yep way too many 

I sent you a PM about chasing up more info just waiting a relpy as its the weekend.

And your right all sharks spotted or tagged should be passed on to the Shark sighting web site so its all more visible to the all ocean users.

Ive have always called the Dolphin n tour guys as they push their customers in with in 2 km of a White hot spot!!!

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I am surprised

Fri, 2020-11-27 21:19

I thought there was more whites tagged. Rockpom tags pinks . I would say info is correct . You could prob phone research people and find out ? Must admit I tried finding it last week nothing on net ( unless I am looking in wrong area).

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Johnny im a big believer that

Fri, 2020-11-27 21:25

Johnny im a big believer that if you're going to put stats up and directly name Govt bodies then at least verify it with maybe a link or two ? Fair call ?

 

No ones doubting anyone...yet. but some official data would be nice.

 

 

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Hmmm,

Sat, 2020-11-28 11:01

Interesting.  

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 ...and don't forget that GW

Fri, 2020-11-27 21:34

 ...and don't forget that GW victim Gary Johnson partner stated in the 

Inquest to his death that they had dived "most" weekends in Esperance for 9 YEARS and only ever saw ONE shark. A Bronzy

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.perthnow.com.au/news/wildlife/wa-inquest-hears-confronting-details-about-death-of-shark-attack-victim-gary-johnson-ng-e3e4f24bf921177609352adeedb2c7ee.amp

 

I've dived for decades. Not seen one either. I was out about 1 n.m from Carnac 6 weeks ago. Nothing.

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And then he was killed

Sat, 2020-11-28 07:31

By a great white 

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Announced today that

Fri, 2020-11-27 22:25

Announced on the tv news that it is believed to be a bull shark that attacked the man at Broome

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 Just as I thought.

Sat, 2020-11-28 10:01

 Just as I thought.

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 We had another GW near miss

Sat, 2020-11-28 12:22

 We had another GW near miss down here on Thursday. A 4m GW came in to west beach at the first surf break ( the only break out of 3 that had surfers on it) and stayed there for another 4 hours after the surfers got out. Fisheries notified but no action taken

Took 2 hours for the shark alarms to be set off!

 

The islands just off shore are loaded with seals yet this shark chose to come to shore and hunt? Surfers are easier to catch no doubt.

 

Only a matter of time before we lose another person.

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Hunting

Sat, 2020-11-28 12:49

woodsy what makes you say the shark was hunting ? It’s well known sharks can just cruise with no intention to feed.  

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Must have been hanging around

Sat, 2020-11-28 12:52

Must have been hanging around waiting for the Uber Eats driver?

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 Because if you know West

Sat, 2020-11-28 14:42

 Because if you know West Beach, there are breaks to surf in about 600m of coast but it chose to haunt the only break that had people on it. And did so for 4 hours. The car parks that overlook the whole beach were packed with people watching. It wasn't coming into the shallows chasing sand crabs . 
Same thing happened couple of years ago just before Sean Pollard got his hands/arms bitten off. 

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 I've never had the privilege

Sat, 2020-11-28 15:28

 I've never had the privilege of diving Esperance way but fellow spearos I know have for many years and said it was right up there with the best this State has to offer. They had a run in with a couple of Bronzies but that's it to date.

What did you make of Gary Johnson partner stating the hadn't seen a White in 8 or 9 years of living and diving in the area ?

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 Probably on the money but

Sat, 2020-11-28 16:14

 Probably on the money but every ab diver and pro fisherman say they've never seen so many whites in the last 10 years. Not sure why they have all decided to come in numbers to our area, big numbers of seals maybe? 
The sad thing about Gary was there was a GW sighted in that area in the morning before they went in, he just wasn't aware of it. 

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 Two big bronzies on the

Sat, 2020-11-28 14:01

 Two big bronzies on the surface today just behind burns rocks. Circling the boat waiting for a free feed. 

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 Well fuck me Woody... That

Sat, 2020-11-28 16:38

 Well fuck me Woody...

 

That quitened him down...

 

Strange aint it...

 

The huggers just don't like hearing about the numbers out there...

 

Scientist are not who I would listen to in this debate, its the blokes that have been having contact with them over a prolonged period and noticed a substancial increase...

 

I really hope that while this wank is getting spoken about on here another fatality doesn't occur...

 

Hey Pesc or Lassi, would you own a Lab or a Pitbull as a family pet?

 

You've got the choice, just like we have the choice...

 

Cull...

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 Quietened me down. Lol not

Sat, 2020-11-28 18:45

 Quietened me down. Lol not quite big man.

And once again your post is a rambling pile of shit that goes completely off track.

But carry on 'Boony, you fishwrecked star...

Lol !

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 Oh and before I forget. I

Sat, 2020-11-28 18:49

 Oh and before I forget. I know you don't like the Scientists as you call them because you're a simple man but who do you reckon the Government and decision makers will ultimately lsten to...them or some fishing forum warrior like you ?

Lolololololololo   @ you....

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 Fuck the lab or pitbull boon

Sat, 2020-11-28 18:41

 Fuck the lab or pitbull boon your on fire mate

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Pescatore,

Sat, 2020-11-28 19:23

In your opinion have the number of GW's increased in the last 15-20 years?  

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 Yes I believe they have but

Sat, 2020-11-28 19:31

 Yes I believe they have but not even close to the level the rednecks on here will lead ppl to believe.

Don't forget  the encounters are also relative to a massive population boom here in the West (more ppl in and on water = more likelihood of an encounter) but ssshhh, don't let the others know as it will confuse them.

Especially Boony and Jackoff.

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So then

Sat, 2020-11-28 19:49

At what point - amount of human deaths , sightings , incidents do you feel the rules should change as far as taking them off the protected species list?
You would be aware of their reproductive cycle to maturity and breading, they have had what 2-3 full cycles as being protected? 
 

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 How many deaths in relation

Sat, 2020-11-28 19:56

 How many deaths in relation to people who are in or on the water.

How many road deaths in relation to road users

The Great White Shark is a protected species INTERNATIONALLY. Are you aware as to why that is so ?

There are vast areas of the world they have not seen sharks for decades when the areas were plentiful with them. Why do you think thats so ?

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my view, quiet generic sorry

Sat, 2020-11-28 20:37

Sure human numbers in the water have increased but actually not a great deal. 

I dont think good surf breaks have that many more than years ago.

Remote locations have more numbers too yes but the GW's behaviour has changed also. Be that our fault or not.

Internationally protected because of over fishing? Is that what you mean?

I wish our waters were like that. 

You have kids?

Say you are barra fishing in the north and Jnr is taken from the side of the boat by a 5m croc - is it ok to kill it?

Say you are at the park kicking a footy and a stray dog eats him - is it ok to kill it?

Same in the water as far as im concered. 

Sure 10's of thousands of crocs , 1000's of dogs and 100's of GW's but for me they all get the noose. (EDIT - if the culprit was found)

But yes I think overall shark numbers need to drop.

Like I said pretty non scientific.

 

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 Think you are

Sun, 2020-11-29 08:25

 Think you are underestimating the population boom in this State my friend. Plenty of stats on the net will show you how many more ppl live in this State as opposed to just 20 years ago.

That aside I have children who I have introduced to water when they were in their nappies. They are now old enough to know that the sea poses certain risks and that has been explained to them carefully.

They also know that when daddy goes into the water to catch fish there is also a level of risk.

More people + more sharks = more likelihood of an encounter.

Like i said in other threads, you and others on here get your way and they inyroduce culling. All good, culling goes well and the quota is met.

What happens if someone else is taken thereafter??? Lift the quota number ??

Because im sure you are intelligent enough to understand that you cant calculate the frequency of attacks on number of sharks in the area right.

Again and again, at the height of summer how many tens or hundreds of thousands of people are in or on the water every...single...day........................

 

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 And i should add, i have

Sun, 2020-11-29 08:31

 And i should add, i have also spoken to my kids and young nieces about the risk of going into places like Northbridge on the weekend or driving on the road or the dangers of drugs...

Things that are far FAR more likely to endanger them than going into our beautiful ocean.

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So if the Govt raises the BAC

Sun, 2020-11-29 08:54

So if the Govt raises the BAC from 0.05% to 0.1% and drink driving fatalities increase 10x would you expect the Govt to go back and have a look at their intervention that resulted in more pissy drivers on the road? Or would you happily just put it down to more cars being on the road and tell people that driving on a Sat night is at their own risk?

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On point JF

Sun, 2020-11-29 09:02

Pisscuntwhore's logic would be drink driver numbers are declining, and therefore they need to be protected, so their population can recover!

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Lol love that name calling.

Sun, 2020-11-29 09:10

Lol love that name calling. How much thought did you put into that  Scotto ?

give yourself a pat on the back. You're definitely the toughest man I know.

Online....   ; )

 

 

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 Before I forget - weren't

Sun, 2020-11-29 09:14

 Before I forget - weren't you the helmet that said that there were so many crab nets floats in the Swan you could walk across the river on them ?  Only for others to weigh in they've never seen such a thing?Lolololol

 

That post went Australia wide mate. We laughed for days...

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 Before I forget - weren't

Sun, 2020-11-29 09:14

 Before I forget - weren't you the helmet that said that there were so many crab nets floats in the Swan you could walk across the river on them ?  Only for others to weigh in they've never seen such a thing?Lolololol

 

That post went Australia wide mate. We laughed for days...

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So excited about his response

Sun, 2020-11-29 09:29

He had to double tap 

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 Sorry i was laughing so hard

Sun, 2020-11-29 09:46

 Sorry i was laughing so hard big man.

Anyway be nice. I turned you into an online fishing celeb, albeit in a retardish kinda way, from those crab posts and im not seeing too much gratitude and there were ppl laugh at your posts as fars as Coffs Harbour. Boooooo...

Anyway think up some more adorable names and I'll get back to you later as im off to a pilates class with Sea Kems missus...

Laters big guy 

 

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 Lol what??? So youre

Sun, 2020-11-29 09:07

 Lol what??? So youre actually stating the Government would actively contribute to the increase in 'possible' drink drivers ???

Hows this relate to a species living in their natural habitat  doing what comes natural ??

And even with this fishwrecked inspired 'explosion' of White numbers what do you make of the fatality rate to per capita of people in the water on any given day ? Why hasn't other States joined in the chorus of culling ?

I'll state again seeing as ppl keep skirting around this - Great Whites are one of the few species that are protected INTERNATIONALLY. That is every single nation on this planet has agreed to protect them. Why do you think that's so ?

Let's see if you are the first to answer this...

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I’ll answer

Sun, 2020-11-29 09:36

Great whites were originally protected, as they were under threat of becoming endangered. That doesn't mean they ever were endangered, by the way.

 

If you ask around, the biggest reason they won't lift it either here or federally at least, is purely political. Far too many green and left voters would abandon whoever is brave enough to even attempt to reduce shark numbers. 

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 Respectfully disagree.And

Sun, 2020-11-29 09:50

 Respectfully disagree.

And they are still protected INTERNATIONALLY.

You may wish to do further research on the species on a macro level

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 Wow Pescy, I found your

Sat, 2020-11-28 19:40

 Wow Pescy,

 

I found your reply so disrespectful to Woody who actually put some substance into this tripe that you and lassi have been dribbling shit about....

 

LJ ( another fishwrecked star ) who is on the ocean more than most has made an observation...

 

A pair of tossers have come on here basically disputing what he has witnessed.

 

Woody, An Esperance local has given real life accounts of whats going on down there but you are too much of a fuckwit to A listen and B acknowledge the blokes efforts for fronting up and discussing something that is really close to home for those that live in small communtites affected by this shit...

 

I appreciate the science but that only tells us so much you fucking mangie dog greyhound half baked rabbit chasing fucka

 

You need to take your shark hugging banner and go on tour, start in Esperance then head to Byron/Ballina area and start puffing your chest out, if you want it signed by a fishwrecked star I'll sign it on your way through down here in Margs...

 

And thanks Bill ( another FW * )

 

Boon ( aka Boony ) xxoo

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 Lol look at you trying ever

Sat, 2020-11-28 20:06

 Lol look at you trying ever so hard to be everyone's mate.. pretty sad Boony.

Did you even ask Woody if he found the comment disrespectful ?

Mate, I dont know if you suffer from an acute form of tourettes or something but have a look back at some of your posts and see how many times you have had to apologise to someone for flying off the handle at your 1st go.

The fact remains is you dont like me and i think your a very simple simple man.

I love sharks, you dont... it is what it is.

 

But trying to play the popularity card is just sad mate...cringingly sad.

Have a good night

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 Tot you are being very

Sat, 2020-11-28 19:57

 Tot you are being very calculated...