Structure Scan - Sonar - 3D Type Sounders
Submitted by OLD BANGA on Sun, 2014-12-14 09:27
Does anyone use or know much about the sounders currently on the market with "Side Structure Scan" providing a 3D image. are they any good, do they assist with identifying structure such as ledges, holes, bombies, etc, are they worth spending the extra dollars to purchase rather than just a normal sounder??????
Any opinions would be appreciated.
Just contemplating upgrading my JRC FF50 to one of the newer type sounders, looking at the Lowrance range that include "Structure Scanning".
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Vinesh87
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I had downscan on my last
I had downscan on my last boat not sidescan and that was very good in under 20m .
A kimberly trip earlier this year one boat had sidescan and it made finding the fish in the rockwalls too easy! Used mainly in under 10m of water. I think it would be great for finding shallow ledges.
I will be buying a Raymarine CP200 for my next boat for sure !
Paul H
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Have a Low HDS with side
Have a Low HDS with side scan/down scan - find the side scan more useful than down scan, great (to around 30-35m) for finding sand holes when cloudy and ledges etc. when dropping pots or bottom fishing etc. Certainly gives you more info than 2d sonar
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t bone
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HDS10 gen2
I ran a lowrance HDS10, gen 2 with structurescan in the quintrex before i offloaded her. Was great in the shallow stuff, but once you get a bit deeper, and the swell starts moving you a bit more, i ended up changing back to the 2D most of the time. In saying that, the new boat is having structurescan just for those times y a throwing the pots out and playing in the shallows...
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whens the new boat coming?
whens the new boat coming?
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t bone
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the jitters have started...
Rob, final delivery is locked in for mid Jan, which is when i get home for my month off.. Just a mad rush to get the new shed built to put her in now :)
randall df223
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I have a simrad but without
I have a simrad but without the structure scan yet. It is on my to buy list. If you mount the transducer next to each other, it gives you a choice of both side and down scan.
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t bone
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Depending which simrad unit
Depending which simrad unit you have, ya can plug the LSS-2 transducer strait into the head unit from my understanding. Makes things a bit cheaper than having to buy a box. Ill be runnig a big simrad for my main fishfinder for the first time.. im preying that i made the right choices.
randall df223
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I have the nss7 and need the
I have the nss7 and need the hub. I think the 8 and 12 you can plug straight in. depending on how big / blinged your boat is, with the simrad you can run radar, video, even your instruments and additional screens though the unit. good choice!
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t bone
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For the price that ya spend
For the price that ya spend on a sonarhub or BSM unit, you would just about come out even buying a NSS8 to run it and then use the 7 as an extra :)
I had a radar on the oridinal planns, but chose to drop that in favor of running CHIRP fish finders. I can handle getting wet if im catching something
glastronomic
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Randall df223 That is what I
Randall df223
That is what I did.
Running my Auto pilot and video through the Hub that links it all together
For the video (Underwater camera) I use an extra TV/Video screen.
NSE 12 with a slave NSS8 running the Lowrange sidescan.
Very happy with the setup 12+ mnds
Make sure you get the correct (long) bracket for the unit!
t bone
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nice setup
Ive heard a little bit about hooking camera's up. Do you just use a "GO PRO" or something along those lines??
with your NSS8 running the structurescan, with both units networked together, can you pull up the structurescan pictures on the NSE12 also?
glastronomic
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The NSS8 is set up as a slave
The NSS8 is set up as a slave unit and can display every mode/screen single/multiple screens separate. Info for the screen comes from the NSE driven Hub which it is linked into.
Camera has to be a dedicated cable signal version to get live video streaming.
Simrad has a very informative website that explains all the options with the different equipment and how they can interact.
glastronomic
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as you can see the structure
as you can see the structure scan indicates where you are looking on the map, very handy with the split screens you can choose with the push of a button
marble
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Maybe ok in shallow water but
Maybe ok in shallow water but not much use for average 30 metre plus depths most guys bottom fish in.
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Yep after researching for about 2 months
and very nearly buying a structure scan I came to the conclusion that if you want to fish deeper than 50m [ because structure scan just bullshits you beyond this depth...has no power to go deeper.]
Have bit the bullet and joined all the top fishermen and pros and gone for a Furuno. Being a 587 with only 1kw ducer but should get me down to 200 to 300m with out to much trouble.
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glastronomic
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Yes agreed it only works till
Yes agreed it only works till about 30 mtrs. max.
But if you practice with it you will recognise what the sounders is showing you.
The structure scan shows the trench of the sewer pipe outlet in 3D, (sadly I was a bit slow clicking the picture with my phone), but in the corner of the sounder is the same trench in 2D.
You can switch the structure scan into down scan and super impose that on your fish finder plus have a half screen with clearer image next to your sounder.
from all this you can see the extra detail/information.
Same with the difference in fish and weed, it becomes clear what is what.
You can clearly see the weed covering on the bottom and see this in brown/dark red on the sounder.
It is not for every one but it is avalable