Hey all i wasnt going to report on this as it was just a bit of an experiment to see whats around but anyways i dumped a small AJ frame in some shallow water in the swan, after a couple hours i went back down and there was the normal swarm of blowies along with a few small whiting, average bream, a small flathead a few small skippy and and wait for it..... about 3 dozen small crabs in the space of 20 meters, i caught the biggest i could see just  to see if it was size and it went 122mm so 5mm under. I went home for a feed and thought will go check one more time before crashing out, as i got down there noticed a light working the area, said hello how ya going what ya got there as i could see a few crabs in his scoop, we had a quick chat i explained the reason for all the crabs in this small area was because of the AJ frame i had put in a few hours earlier, he claimed he had one sized crab back where ever he was based and disappeared into the darkness, turning his torch off and didnt hear another word. Funny how i saw 3 dozen crabs all well undersize yet he had 3 in his scoop and vanished when i arrived, maybe the crabs in his scoop were size, maybe he released them if the were not.... either way i wont be berleying up again.... seemed a bit dodgy.