Swell Tomorrow - Metro Deep Drop
Submitted by Simo_ on Sun, 2016-05-15 12:16
Just wondering what the deep drop gurus think about the swell tomorrow? Will it be ok for dropping at the trench? All the forecasts say light winds.
Last day of holidays do I'm keen to get one last fishing trip in.
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Oceanside Tackle
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Super Deep
Shop owner Ryan will go out in 3m and under swell. The fish still bite and if going out just take it a bit slower. BOM currently says 3-5m (not good) but it could be less.
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Simo_
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Cheers
Cheers
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JohnF
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Its not just wind, or swell,
Its not just wind, or swell, but a combo of both plus what has happened the 24 hrs before.....it will be awful out there tomorrow.
Boston Whaler 235 Conquest......getting the flogging it was built for.
Simo_
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You think it will be choppy?
You think it will be choppy?
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meglodon
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Uncomfortable swell
Sitting in a small ish boat facing the oncoming of a descent swell can be "character building" at best or make you very uncomfortable with your decision to go.
Look at the latest B O M report before heading out and keep tuned to the conditions your are heading into on the way out.
Bryce Day
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If u wanna go then go! If it
If u wanna go then go! If it looks shit pull up half way and catch some dhueys if it drops off head out! Plenty of times I've sat at the 60m line for 1-2 hours seeing if conditions are changing/dropping. Just checked swell!!!! You shouldn't have any problem with spot pingers
makoshark
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Big Swell
One problem with a big swell is the amount of seaweed it can produce and remember swell can break over 6 m.
let it settle for a couple of days Wednesday looks good.
if you do go remember to control the sea and not the sea control you
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Bryce Day
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How does one control the
How does one control the sea?
crasny1
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You become
Poseidon - God of the Sea!!! Or roman - Neptune
Or better still Ariel's dad - King Triton
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Don't forget Moses
Don't forget Moses
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crasny1
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I think he Parted it
Did he control it otherwise - LOL
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makoshark
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the swell
So many dont know how to drive a boat in a running sea and for some strange reason they end up side ways on a big swell loosing control or ending up on the rocks. Then rescue boys have to come rescue some dipshit on the rocks or in a swamped boat.
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crasny1
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++
Takes experience to be confident in a running swell or sea.
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Bryce Day
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I always thought you were
I always thought you were best off putting all the eskys, dive belts, cray pots and people up the front of the boat, then heading as fast as you can down the wave, about 3/4 of the way down quickly put boat in neutral! ;) and prey to St Brendan.
D_d_001
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think you forgot to trim the
think you forgot to trim the bow down as far as possible.
Bryce Day
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Havnt broached the air rider
Havnt broached the air rider and trust me I've tried everything. Would happily sail that around all day in a following sea!
sea-kem
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Hmmm that's a pretty broad
Hmmm that's a pretty broad statement. You'll only end up on rocks if you're foolish enough to go near them on a decent swell. But being a jet ski man I guess you don't have that problem
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makoshark
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dont judge a ski by the looks
After I left the Army i become a skipper on a Trawler out of Nelson Bay and Evans head nsw. The Ex recieved half of my 8m boat.
I went to a craft i can get out wide and easy handled on my own and dont have to rely on others.
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Plug
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Deep v boats have a habit
Deep v boats have a habit when they can shoot over to one side with a following swell. Have had it before the boat shot out to the right sending us onto our side but lukily it came upright and the worse of the damage was all the whiting in the bucket ended up on the floor. So now I never trust any boat in a following swell.
i need cheaper hobbies
sea-kem
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I try to balance the boat at
I try to balance the boat at the back of the swells as they come through. So you are basically climbing most of the time. Saying that I won't go out in anything bigger than 2.4m swells
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makoshark
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the swell
Fully Agree, unfortunately some inexperienced boaties dont pick the right days to venture out.
Just throwing it out there. I am not sure doing a RST in the benign water of Hillarys Boat Harbour helps future boaties gain any experience.
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Scotte
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No but i does produce a
No but i does produce a revenue for the government
Rob H
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.
no but it does give them the knowledge not to drive into the side of a ferry, or cut inside the channel markers, or cut off a ship etc.
Many still do it, but no longer have an excuse for it!
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
sea-kem
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Love the West!
Brock O
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Most people venturing to the
Most people venturing to the trench to deep drop might fall into a different category....not many rocks out there either as far as I'm aware.
just putting it out there.
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i reckon simo has got it
i reckon simo has got it covered judging by his fish posts
meglodon
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Experience, what a marvellous word
I just love that word (experience) just how do you get experience without learning to do it first. In my opinion you have got to slowly and cautiously do something that you haven't tried before and if possible under the guidance of some one who you trust and has done it a lot of times, some one who is experienced.
We have all learned how to do things in our boats and this means that we have all been novices at the start of long learning curve and thus gone on to get experience.
Youtube has some articles (I believe) that can give the novice a bit of a heads up on what not to do and on how to go about running with a following sea. As has been allured to above a following sea is far more dangerous than going into a big sea (IMO).
The trench is a long way to go Simo and you don't want to start learning how to handle your boat in a following sea (if there is one) a long way from home.
Gertcha
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Man I am glad you asked this
Man I am glad you asked this question.
Wennt down to South Ocean Tackle last week to buy some gear and had the same ideas as you, but glad to have the expert warned to stay home.
Da pirate
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Light years !!
I got put light years ahead !! When I first got my little
tub ! I had a good mate do a few seasons with me ! So
i say grantartic !! Thank you very much brutha ! I was
lucky enough too learn from a good mate that had it dialed
in !! So once again cheers corks !! You really did get me
sorted and I'll be forever in your debt !!
Cheers ya bro pirate !!
Simo_
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no good out deep and in
no good out deep and in closer today, fish totally off the bite.
Bring on April
makoshark
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nothing
Bugger hope it settles for Wednesday.
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Bryce Day
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Did u get out wide fora
Did u get out wide fora look?
Simo_
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Yeah no good
Yeah no good
Bring on April
Gertcha
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dam wish I have gone too was
dam wish I have gone too was it rough ?
meglodon
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A few things to try in a small following sea
Place all movable items like esky, portable full tank, fish box etc on the centre line of the boat, place the heavier items at the stern so that the boat has a slightly stern down trim.
Trim out the leg of the outboard so that it is inclined to push the stern down slightly along with the way you have trimmed with portable weight.
What you are trying to achieve is a boat that is trimmed with the bow slightly up from its' normally trim line in the water.
This required to assist in stopping the bow from diving into the bottom of the swell in front of your boat should you accidently over shoot a swell and end up surfing down the face of it.
As Sea-kem has alluded to you want to have your boat positioned on the back face of the swell when travelling with a swell at your back, and not surf down the front of it, which is fraught with danger.
This will require you to be using the throttle all the time you are travelling to keep your boat in a safe (back of swell) position. Don't be slack on using the throttle.
If the swell is quite large and you are feeling uncomfortable whilst running with it you can also do the following which will assist in keeping your boat on the back of the swell and in a straight line.
If you have a long anchor rope (80 - 100 metres) remove the anchor and chain from it.
Double it over so you have a loop equal to half the length of the rope, tie the ends of the rope, one to each cleat on the stern of the boat.
Then whilst going forward play out the rope loop so that you end up with a loop of rope equal that is of half the length of the rope and the width of your boat. being towed along behind your boat.
This will have the effect of a small sea anchor and keep your boat straight along line of the swell.
I hope this makes sense to you and you can follow it.
You must retrieve the rope when you change course from the line of the swell.
Brock O
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