Tailor Fishing - Best Rig?
Submitted by Chrono90 on Wed, 2011-10-05 09:33
Hey Guys,
What is the best rig for catching tailor from the beach? I usually use a star sinker and triple gang hooks, but not much joy.
I have far more luck using a halco twisty.
Also - what's the best bait?
Cheers.
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Snags
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pembo6
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I like to baitcast
I usually like to baitcast with no weight (or a running barrell or ball sinker) whenever possible. Always seem to catch more that way.
But if the swell is too large, then I will go with the same setup you described. Personally I use a spoon sinker becuase I usually tend to fish where there are a few snags, and I make the hook trace shorter than the sinker trace. I find it tangles less that way.
My favorite rig is the Inji rig. Mainline to a 3way swivel. Short trace off side ring to a 3/0 gang and mulie. Longer trace from bottom ring down to a small gang for whitebait/blue sardine. With this rig you can catch tailor but also smaller stuff. Have caught small salmon, skippy, herring and tarwhine on the small gang. Have even had 35cm tailor take the bluebait instead of the mulie. But this rig is best over/near reef with low or no wave action.
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Spinnerak
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I haven't tried this rig, but
I haven't tried this rig, but this is what a few of the pros use.
20lb braid to a swivel, 50cm of 40lb leader to another swivel, with a sinker (3oz spoon) on swivel clip running inbetween.
then 40lb leader to a triple gang of 4/0 tarpons.
IQF mulies.
The theory is that Tailor prefer a moving target and having a sliding spoon sinker allows this.
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RIG
i think it is just plain rude if someone is asking a question and someone replies with " http://fishwrecked.com/search", yes he may have had a look there already, you dont know. Instead of being such a smart arse how about actually helping them.
the rig i like to use is a standard running ball or bean sinker rig with #4/0 gangs or snelled #4/0 octopus hooks. hopefully ive helped without you using the search tool.
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agree on the search quote if
agree on the search quote
if everyone just did that there would be nothing to search for and the site would be completely pointless
Sharktale
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Tailor rigs
Nothing beats baitcasting a mulie but if conditions don't allow:
60lb mono between 2 swivels joined with fig 8 knots. On this mono slide a swivel and attach a 5cm loop of dacron to the sliding swivel (this allows for easy changing of the sinker and stowing rig). On the bottom swivel tie 18-21kg mono of about 0.5m. Depending on mulie size use 3 hook gangs consisting of 1st hook #2Mustad live bait , second hook mustad tarpon and 3rd hook Gamakatsu, Owner or VMC. Always let the last hook sit "proud" meaning the hook tip must be exposed. This ensures more hookups. What probably boggles the mind is the small 1st hook - this is to make th bait looks more natural. Personally don't like a hook shank dangling in front of the bait. Also prefer a pink or purple occy skirt (3inch). I use snapper sinker if conditions are OK to keep the bait moving on the bottom. Stay away from trebles at the base - you'll injure undersize fish............tight lines
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pretty complicated rig for a
pretty complicated rig for a fish that is so easy to catch i use a paternoster with a dropper loop on side cut off so it is a single starnd star sinker on the bottom size depending on the conditions and usualy 4/0 3 gangs i agree with the hook shank not hanging in front of the bait though thats why i go through the gill plate not the eye much stronger hold on the bait aswell can get 2 - 3 hits before the bait is done for most of the time up here you get them first time though
gumnut
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unweighted pilchard
swivel onto your main line with a leader and some 4/0 gangs with a pilchard is what i use and have had best success with. if you need a bit of weight just stick one or two small ball sinkers above your swivel. cast her out and reel her in... what i found is that early in the evening they hit a moving bait, then they seem to quiet down a bit and then i cast out and just let it sit and start catching them that way. apparently what the tailor do is go thru early and just chomp away at everything and wound it all then come back through later and clean up the wounded and dead ones on the bottom.
Stuey
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Same here; a three gang of
Same here; a three gang of 4/0's on a 60cm 30lb fluoro trace to a swivel, and if I need a bit of weight to cast, I put one or two small split shot on the line just above the hooks (using IQF mulie).
Where needed, I use a #3 running blob above the leader to prevent snags.
TonyT
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The other day we had 2 tailor
The other day we had 2 tailor landed, then i was on again 2 mins later and it bit thru my 40lb trace, i know tailor have good teeth but it easily and very quickly bit thru my jinkai 40lb,
Was it a Tailor? or something else or are Tailor teeth that good and sharp? or maybe it was a good sized 1? ( dreaming it was lol)
Any ideas?
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could have been a goodsized
could have been a goodsized on emaybe a smal shark or nor west blowie
soongster
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wouldnt wire traces built for
wouldnt wire traces built for tailor be best for situations like these? ive seen some around but i dont know how well itll do againts those chopper teeth..
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knigit
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Whatever rig you decide on,
Whatever rig you decide on, if you're using mulies wrapping them with a few winds of cotton keeps them intact and in shape for a lot longer and stops little buggers from pulling them off of your hooks.
UncutTriggerInWA
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Tailor tips
Baitcasting is a great way to catch Tailor but it depends on conditions. Baitcasting in surf just doesn't cut it. I do a fair bit from reef edges and generally I will attach a smallish barrel sinker just above the bait. That gives me some distance and stops the peskie birds from hammering my bait from the air. It also allows for faster retrieve and that is best.
In the surf I use a patanoster and the trick there is to attach a chamapaine cork just above the bait. This gives floatation and makes the bait move around in the wash. A still bait is far less effective as Tailor will snap at moving objects and often swim by still objects.
Throwing poppers over bombies is a favourite fastime of mine.
Again though the conditions will dictate what method you use so be flexible and experiment with different scenarios and rigs.
Wire traces in my opinion are ineffective and not necessary. Very rarely have I had a Tailor bite off my gang. I am talking about Tailor over 50cms with some petty vicious teeth.
Vince.
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soongster
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heh.. im actually of no use
heh.. im actually of no use in this discussion... the biggest tailor ive got is only 29.8cms LOL.. not even legal. ill shuddap now
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