Tying off braid when snagged

Does anyone have an ingenious way of tying off braid when snagged up bottom bouncing. I'd rather not lock up the drag on the reel and hold on tight. Whilst I have done this before it is probably not particularly good for the reel. I've tried gloves but can never seem to find them handy when I need them. Of recent time I've been crisscrossing the braid in a figure 8s on a boat cleat and letting the boat do all the work but that's not always as easy as it sounds if you don't get enough wraps on the cleat quickly enough. A short piece of dowel, 200-250mm long, broom handle size and doing the crisscross method with that may be the way to go but I thought I would ask on here if anyone has a simpler solution. I don't want to reduce the breaking strain of my leader / trace material which is normally around the 80lb mark. Most times I find that either that breaks at a knot or the hooks straighten and I'm fine with that. It's finding a way of safely and quickly locking up the braid in a hand held device that I'm after.

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Thumb

Thu, 2018-06-28 18:35

If needed, I normally just point the rod where the line is, then lock my thumb up on the spool (Im using an overhead).  

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Thumb

Thu, 2018-06-28 18:35

If needed, I normally just point the rod where the line is, then lock my thumb up on the spool (Im using an overhead).  

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 I put it in free spool for a

Thu, 2018-06-28 18:44

 I put it in free spool for a few seconds then jig the hell out of it a couple of times and usally frees it's self , try that i pretty much always unsnag it that way  

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 +1 for Happy dayz

Thu, 2018-06-28 18:51

 +1 for Happy dayz technique. 

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Just wrap it

Thu, 2018-06-28 19:08

 A few times around somthing and then hold the braid near your spool drive the boat forward until it pings

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 I wrap it 6 or 7 times

Thu, 2018-06-28 19:25

 I wrap it 6 or 7 times around a 40 mm piece of wooden shovel handle I have in my boat .

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Very simular to gunner

Thu, 2018-06-28 19:42

But I use my stainless gaff handle. I found braid cut into wood up top and brakes up top.4 to 5 raps 2 hands and let boat do work

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Driving the boat in the

Thu, 2018-06-28 19:51

Driving the boat in the opposite direction with the rod in the holder more often than not pulls it off for me otherwise I hold the spool and point the rod toward the snag to snap it. Maybe one of those knot tensioner tools to carry in your pocket?

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Exactly what

Fri, 2018-06-29 11:32

I try first. Your 100 percent right , most off the time it comes off

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I find many times that it is the sinker that snags

Thu, 2018-06-28 20:13

I now use much lighter leader for the sinker dropper, sure I loose some leads but it is very unusual for me to loose the whole trace and we make our own leads so I shrug off the occasional loss......tempted bloody providence now haven't I

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I was just thinking on Sunday

Thu, 2018-06-28 22:45

I was just thinking on Sunday if this would work after losing 4 rigs. WIll give it a crack

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 I've made a few "industrial"

Thu, 2018-06-28 21:12

 I've made a few "industrial" line pullers..  Heavy duty heat shrink over thick walled Ali tube or wooden broom handle .  They are great for tying knots and the plastic grips the line very well 

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too true

Thu, 2018-06-28 21:20

 Sunshine! the west will be offset by your you lead disposal now!

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The technology is there...

Thu, 2018-06-28 22:38

 ...at least two overhead jiggers (Ocea jigger and Saltiga 15) have a "locked spool" function...where the push of a button simply locks the spool for when a bust-off/hook straightening is required. Not a very complicated mechanism, I'm surprised other overheads haven't yet got it.

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Thanks for the feedback guys

Fri, 2018-06-29 10:25

I like Feral's approach with some heat shrink over ali tube or thick dowel. I have some bike tube which should do the trick. I also found there is a product on the market for this exact purpose, see link below.

https://www.balista.com.au/lures/break-braid-tool

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I wrap mine around the rear bollard a few times

Fri, 2018-06-29 11:48

when drifting , the drift generally pulls me off / breaks me off . Or do same and drive the boat in other direction . Takes pressure off rods and reel . Just need to do it enough so doesn't slip .

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I allways use 40Lb mono

Fri, 2018-06-29 11:50

I allways use 40Lb mono leader for the sinker. If snagged we usualy put a few loops around the hand rail and wait till somthing gives, in most cases we do retrieve all the gear.

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Nice name. lol. Do you mean

Wed, 2018-07-04 13:36

Nice name. lol.
Do you mean you would use 80lb mono for the rest of the rig but just the sinker extension you change to 40lb? :)

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all brilliant ideas

Fri, 2018-06-29 11:53

Another good one if fishing snaggy ground , use a length of stainless chain ( cheap from salvage yards, recycle mobs). Or galvenized. It snakes over the ground , rather than getting stuck. ( use scales to weigh different lengths) doesn't put fish off at all. Ask any diver when they swim down what hangs around anchor if there in area of coarse.I always use 130 ld main dropper/100 lb for weight. Also always use circles on bottom rig.i still loose rigs like everyone else . Sometimes your stuck.

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as above i tend to us ea

Fri, 2018-06-29 12:01

as above

i tend to us ea lighter line for the lead dropper , and if it cant be teased off in a few jerks by slacking the line then lifting it quickly , i put it into free spool and go back up on my track to pull if off in direction we have drifted down ,,,

the last one is more time consuming and a pain if it keeps happening , so the deckies usualy get schooled up quickly to pay attention to their line out and sounder pics as you drift over lumps and rises etc, that way they can ''see '' whats coming , before they hook up on it and anticipate to lift their line up abit etc then drop back down as you descend the drop off

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 i tend to just hold the

Fri, 2018-06-29 17:45

 i tend to just hold the spool and point the rod towards the line, i use rig line 20lb lighter than the shock leader so if its going to break its below the swivel. 50lb braid 80lb shock leader and 60lb rig line

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 We use the boat also, tie

Sat, 2018-06-30 10:26

 We use the boat also, tie off the line to the bollard and idle off. 

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 How goo is it when a 50

Wed, 2018-07-04 11:48

 How goo is it when a 50 dollar jig snags up

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Wed, 2018-07-04 13:11

I've considered downsizing the strength of the assist cords to alleviate that problem.  Those octo jigs and pirate jigs seem to hang up on the bottom very easily as well to the extent that I am now very weary of where I use them.  Lighter homemade assists may again be the solution.  

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