Ute advice.
Submitted by Auslobster on Wed, 2013-08-28 18:50
Hey fellas
Am after a dual-cab, 4x4 ute...preferably diesel and manual transmission. Prepared to spend up to 30k. Leaning towards a Navara but am willing to listen to any and all advice you lot might have. Will need to tow a 19 foot centre console, which doesn't weigh much for it's size, but could be looking at long distance towing as well as the odd beach launch. So yeah, something capable of doing that as well as being a reliable off-roader. For the price I'm guessing something 2-3 years old but there'd have to be a few of you a lot more schooled up on this sort of thing than me so waiting for your responses!
Stratos-Fear
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I just went with 2010 3.0L
I just went with 2010 3.0L Ranger. I tow something a lot lighter but having 3.0L Turbo is more ponies than the Nissan.I found the Ranger more comfortable too for those longer trips....
Pilbra Dave
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Doggy Gear Boxes in the
Doggy Gear Boxes in the Ranger and BT50, Know of two personnelly that have had them go towing caravans/boats.
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Vinesh87
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Older ranger or Dmax gets my
Older ranger or Dmax gets my vote !
Tradewind
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I've had a few mates with
I've had a few mates with Navaras which unfortunately have had a lot of problems from the transmition through to the turbo blowing
Obviously not every Navara will have these problems, but it's enough to make me shy on buying one
new age
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Spend under 10 grand on an
Spend under 10 grand on an old patrol with minimum rust and buy a reconditioned 6.5lt chev diesel v8 installed for 20+ odd k. It will go hard.
snapper
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Google problems with the model
It will surprise you .Nissans since 2005 have had lot of problems with Clutches and Gearboxes.I have a 2004 D22 V6 and it served me well, but I would not touch the newer models .I think the D40 was blowing clutches after 40 K and cost about $2.5 k to replace .I have a mate with a Nissan 2.5 common rail and hes not impressed with it.
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Swompa
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I have a 2010 dual cab,
I have a 2010 dual cab, manual desel ST. Great car, very capable
Manual gets 150 km per tank than Auto as far as I know.
Capable offload in sand, trusting you treat with respect and lower pressure. Nowhere as good as the GQ patrols, but good for what I want, ie towing boat, camper, beach driving and daily drive.
Swompa
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Manual gets 150 km MORE than
Manual gets 150 km MORE than auto...missed that vital word
Busted Arse
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Talk to ernie from Perth
Talk to ernie from Perth Gearbox Diff and Clutch centre and he will tell you he has seen every make dual cab crd manual come in with early burnt out clutches. Got 2 mates with hiluxes that did their clutches at 60k. My D40 started to go at around 120k and got rid of the dual mass flywheel set up and did the clutch industries heavy duty clutch and flywheel modification. That's the only major issue I have had and would recommend getting the auto instead for any dual cab crd ute for towing. Have since got a LC200 but am thankful of the great service I got out of the nav having toured the gunbarrel,cape arid national park, Pilbara and kimberlies effortlessly.
crezz
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I got a 2007 Mitsubishi
I got a 2007 Mitsubishi triton dual cab last year for $27000 with 58000 on the clock. 3.2l TD. not bad off road, I don't do any towing so cant realy comment on that part. all the new 4x4's are too bloody low to the ground these days. unless you spend big and get a new cruiser dual cab or do a few mods.
Colt_Striker
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I would recommend a Dmax or
I would recommend a Dmax or Colorado, had no probs with my Colorado towing 3 tonne boat, did Perth to Albany a few times & up to Thev Island no probs.
Auslobster
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Thanks guys...
...info much appreciated. It looks like a tradeoff...manual a liability for towing but auto heavier on the fuel. Was getting over 700 kms to the tank with a diesel Hilux and a diesel Rodeo, both manual and that was peak hour freeway/ city driving. Then took an auto/diesel Navara to Albany and back and struggled to get 600 kms on one tank....could've been a smaller tank, but.
Hey Colt, is your Colorado manual? Anyway, keep the responses coming!
catchalittle
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Would have to say the DMAX or
Would have to say the DMAX or the Colorado the DMAX would be my personnel choice bullett proof
Nathan
Andy_b
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dmax, i have one and never
dmax, i have one and never had a drama 4x4 ute and desiel
Pilbra Dave
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Navara D40 V6 Petrol
I was looking for the same sort of thing at the end of last year and Picked up a two year old Navara D40 V6 Petrol with 11,000km's for less than $30,000 (Ex Demonstrator). Pulls the boat like you wouldn't believe (Faster than my Patrol with 2ton of boat behind it), is fun to drive and uses 12.5 litres per hundred around Karratha with a lead foot. If I had of got the Diesel I would need to do over 165,000 km’s before the difference in price would be made up for in improved fuel economy. It runs the same motor as the 370Z and has 198KW. It won't have the same resale as a diesel but who cares because I paid allot less than a diesel in the first place, for me it was the best bang for your buck for under $30,000
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Nelly
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Dmax.I have a 09 auto done
Dmax.I have a 09 auto done 113k and has been fantastic returning 10l/100km its whole life and 14l/100km pulling 1.5t at 100km.Looking at selling soon to get a new one!Isuzu make the most reliable diesels/trucks around so thats why i went that way i havent regretted it.
Rob H
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Ive never owned a Navara, but
Ive never owned a Navara, but one thing Ive noticed regularly is the number of late model ones that push out a lot of black smoke?
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Matty15
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I had a 2010 Navara stx
I had a 2010 Navara stx always serviced and well looked after, had the timing chain go at 75k 2 weeks out of warranty!! apparently it's a very common problem! Also very bad on fuel struggled to get 550 when not towing and towing my work trailer not even 400kms traded it last week for a new Colorado, fuel range 800 plus!!
Rob H
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sorry but I have to point out
sorry but I have to point out the futility of comparing economy on "how much to the tankful".
Did Nissan come to the party on the timing chain Matty? I would have fought that tooth and nail at 75000k's?
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Matty15
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Yeah mate it was a long hard
Yeah mate it was a long hard fought out battle was getting the run around big time, Nissan wouldn't agree to replace it untill they had pulled it apart and had photos of it. They came to the party tho so saved a few grand. Oil leaks started appearing and then they didn't want to know about it but that's another story haha!!
scottnofish
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had a 3 litre turbo diesel
ford ranger for 3 years ,biggest piece of crap ive driven ,the auto gearbox never new what gear it should be in and always seamed to be the wrong one ,shocking turbo lag, fuel consumtion was shocking to say the least ,75 lt tank for 450km till the fuel lt would come on and 550km till empty and towing my boat it wouldnt do 240km on a tank ,was always back at dealers for oil leaks faulty sensors and bloody seatbelts that dont retract ,have a colorado now and absolutly love it get 9.5l /100km normall driving 750km /800km per 80l tank and 450km 21liters /100km towing 3tonne ,plus the car is a dream to drive ,and there is tonns of leg room in the back of the dual cab its like a family sedan where as the ranger dual cab was like a hatch back
Paul_86
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Sounds like that ranger was
Sounds like that ranger was a big lemon mate, unlucky! I've had an 08 since new and done 160k in it and its been a great car to me! Still get just under 10l's per 100km's around town, also no oil leaks or turbo lag, infact the lack of turbo lag is often commented on. Glad the new Colorado is going well for you tho!
scottnofish
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i wouldnt say i got a lemon
more like you got a rare good one ,we had ten rangers in our fleet at work and there all the same ,only 2 left now and every one at work that has swaped to the colorado thinks they are a shit load better to drive than the 08/09 rangers
quadfisher
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Putting the brakes on
Have heard from a few others that had them , the navaras seem heavy on brake wear,
often needing full discs and pads at 50, 000 -60,000 etc, anyone here had that?
Im am a nissan man and I woulndnt get one , just a prefrence, would go for anything with isuzu in the dna
they seem to be like nissan used to be, overengineered, not like now , catering for the latte set!
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Grant Jones
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I have a 2006 Navara D22 3L
I have a 2006 Navara D22 3L turbo diesel manual with 80k on the clock. No problems at all. Towing is steady, but definitely isn't as powerful as id like. It does the job,just not as well as the newer 3L common rail diesels.
I have recently blocked off the exhaust gas emissions return and hope this improves engine life. I think all modern diesels have the EGR for emissions these days.
If you are looking at the newer navara D22s they come with a 2.5 common rail engine and are not very powerful. I wouldn't buy one. They only put out around 90ish kw compared to all the other 3Ls that are around 120-140kw ish.
Good luck with finding whats right for you. Just remember, if you search hard enough on google you will find horror stories on all makes and models.
sea-kem
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I've got a 2010 Triton.
I've got a 2010 Triton. Great ute for towing, reasonable mileage ,plenty of power. Only problem just recently could not get it into 3rd so dropped it off today. Syncro has gone and on the way out in all the other gears as well. Still under warranty so all good. I'll definitely be looking at the DMax next though, I've heard a lot of good things about them from different people who are fairly savvy 4WD wise.
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diver albie
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how many k's
I've got an 09 with 52k's a getting a bit crunchy into 3rd
sea-kem
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Ha ha coincidence 52k on the
Ha ha coincidence 52k on the clock on mine as well. It goes through the gears like a dream now. Worth getting it checked Diver. Yours will still be under warranty.
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tim-o
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Forget the rest, Great Wall
Forget the rest, Great Wall is the BEST!
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EricBananaMan
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Great Wall
Had a mates Great Wall crack the head before its 3rd birthday
Auslobster
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Also with the Great Walls...
...I'd imagine I could get a real bargain if I found one that slipped past the recall and still had the asbestos in it!
There definitely seems to be a positive trend on here towards Dmax/Colorado...
shonky
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No thanks
Got myself a brand new one a couple of years ago, it's gone now and won't be getting another.
This habit is getting expensive!
fishy fingers
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09 colorado
I have a 09 colorado I put in a chip it performance chip and a 3" exhaust it go's like shit off a shovel and pulls my 6m glass boat realy well, on our last trip to exie with 4 blokes in the car i was getting as low as 16l/100k's and going up an incline at worst 23l/100k's at 90 kmh
EricBananaMan
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Amarok?
How much is the Vee Dub amarok? I hear they at good. Have you looked at them?
tim-o
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If the GreatWall anit for
If the GreatWall aint for you, seriously, look at the Grand Tiger, what a weapon
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out wide
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Anything with a 4jj1 motor
Isuzu and others rate these motor the best in the business and very capable of giving you 400000 ks
crezz
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is it true that the great
is it true that the great wall have a 0 star ancap rating and are not allowed on mine sites?
tim-o
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They should not be allowed in
They should not be allowed in the country full stop lol
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sea-kem
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Yeah who was the idiotic
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