Whats the best shore based rig

Wondering what the best shore/jetty based rig is using 60lb leader.

I usually do A Swivvel about 30cm to a dropper loop which contains a snapper sinker, then about another 30cm till a size 8 Gamakatzu circle or octopus hook.

Since last week i was told it was the most useless rig to use, by this guy ata tackle shop who came for a fish.

How should a rig work? what makes a good rig?

what shore based rigs do youguys use?

 


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Matey

Wed, 2008-05-21 11:23

Rigs are pretty much a personal choice and many anglers will settle on a range of rigs that they have found to be tried and tested.
It will also dedend largely on where you are fishing and the conditions you are fishing in.
I would suggest that a 60 lb leader is probably a bit heavy for most situations if shore/jetty fishing.
Try taking it down to 40 lb. The landbased paternoster rig is probably the most popular and successful shore fishing rig if you are fishing from the rocks or the beach and there is a bit of wind and waves.
A snapper sinker may also be a bit big. Personally, I like to use as little lead as possible.
The Gamakatzu hook is fine for live baits.
You should also look as snelling and ganging some hooks to give you some other options.
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Tried snelling, i suck at

Wed, 2008-05-21 11:36

Tried snelling, i suck at snelling. I used to buy the Pre made mulloway rigs from K mart for like $3 . Excellent but theyv run out :(

Whats the shore based paternoster? 

Ill pick up some 40lb then :)  and itd be easier to tie

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Flangies

Wed, 2008-05-21 11:46

Grab a copy of Geoff Wilson's knot tying book. I am pretty crappy at tying knots, but his book helps a great deal. Snells are pretty easy (if I can tie them they must be easy). Have a look at this link. http://www.fishing.sh/htmfiles/knots/snelling.html

For a paternoster rig off the beach I use a three way swivel. Attached to one of the tie off points of the swivel is a lengbth of leader with a loop on the end to allow you change sinkers to suit the conditions. Another length of leader is tied to another tie off point on the swivel - to which you tie your hook/hooks. The top tie off point of the swivel is attached to your main line.
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Flangies

Wed, 2008-05-21 12:07

In my limited experience i have always found to have the most success using the paternoster rig. (as described above by colin1) this is the go for beach and rocks.
I tend to use a float or berley cage off the jetties as hook up rate is better than using sinkers.

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Hey Flangies, same as any

Wed, 2008-05-21 12:09

Hey Flangies, same as any knot it takes practice to learn.

I sit in front of the telly and knock up about 6-7 rigs at a time.

I too sucked for the first few, but trust me, they get easier the more practice , same as anything.

The thing is, if you dont keep trying, you wont get better, so stick at it.

If you dont know a not just google it, plenty of text based and utube demo's out there.

these two are from the linkslink on the top left of your page.

http://www.fishnet.com.au/knotsrigs/knotsrigs.html
http://www.animatedknots.com/knotlist.php?LogoImage=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com

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Good advice Neander

Wed, 2008-05-21 12:26

I do the same as Neander and sit in friont of the telly making up rigs. What you can do then flangies is get a section of a pool noodle and you can wrap your prepared rigs onto it to keep them neat.
I usually have three different noodle sections in my backpack when I go fishing - each with different rig setups.

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I like the grog site, but

Wed, 2008-05-21 13:05

I like the grog site, but there are a couple of knots tied better elsewhere, their snell is better, but I like the snood from http://marinews.com/Snood-327.php

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Thanks guys, I just posted a

Wed, 2008-05-21 16:19

Thanks guys, I just posted a HUGE response only for it not to work propperly. Makes me angry but here goes.

Thanks, the animated knots rocked. I had trouble with the geoff wilson knot book (have it at home) because it looks like it skipped steps *What the hell how did that turn to THAT* The animated one is awesome.

When i am live baiting, Should i use weight or no weight? Iv often thought about it, Isnt it better to pin the fish to the ground making it vulnerable than to have it swim back towards me? I dunno, You dont have to answer lol youv been a good enough help already

 

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If conditions allow

Wed, 2008-05-21 18:04

If the conditions allow, and you are using live bait, I wouldn't use a sinker if I could get away with it, you want the live bait to be as natural as possible.

 

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Yeah it really does depend

Wed, 2008-05-21 20:40

on the conditions as Colin said flangies. Sometimes it can also depend on the fish. Some of them will come straight back at you, particularly if you are fishing of rocks.
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I try yellowtail and lil

Wed, 2008-05-21 21:06

I try yellowtail and lil macks but they just end up swimming back towards the jetty,

 

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GREAT IDEA!! Have to try

Wed, 2008-05-21 21:29

GREAT IDEA!!

Have to try that one. 

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