Wire for tying knots.

 Been bitten off a lot this year by shark whilst fishing for Mulloway. Normaly dont like to use wire for fear of putting off the Mulloway. 

Found a way to make it work for me after discovering a good knot to tie a short length of wire direct to the line. I snooze two hooks together with wire and then tie the wire to line about 7-8 cm up. Its been working well catching sharks and before I always had to re rig after a big tailor due to the damaged mono. 

Question is what do people recomend as the best wire for tying knots? I have tried a few some kink, some more supple but can weaken and break after excessive use. Halco was the best i used so far. 

In the shops some are very heavey gauge for the breaking limit I had been avoiding those to not wanting to put off the mulla's.

 

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 i have used twist weld in

Wed, 2018-02-14 11:36

 i have used twist weld in the past and put a crimp for more security. dont know if its still available or not . 

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have you got any photos

Thu, 2018-02-15 21:41

 of your setup pete f? ive been trying to use wire on a paternoster but it kees getting caught.

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Picture of the wire to mono snoozed

Sat, 2018-02-17 14:03

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 dont think i would trust the

Sat, 2018-02-17 14:32

 dont think i would trust the rig with the wire straight to the mono. it would cut through quick

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 I did some testing before

Sat, 2018-02-17 17:30

 I did some testing before using the knot, first tried knots like albright and it did make the wire cut the mono at a very low pull strength this knot with 50lb wire and 100lb mono the wire breaks first. 

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Depends if you want to catch sharks or mulloway?

Fri, 2018-02-16 09:46

 Personally, i regard the bitey things as vermin and would rather not waste my time on them. I'd rather just have them bite off and F**off. A mate who fishes off the beach a lot went off wire years ago, just uses snelled hooks and a two or three hook rig on mono with whole gar. Of course, this meant he was getting some tailor bite-offs whil he was still using J-hooks, but, since he want to circles, he reckons that problem is not longer significant. The tailor are usually hooked in the jaw.

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 Depends on the day, when the

Fri, 2018-02-16 11:00

 Depends on the day, when the conditions are right more likely to get Mulloway and I would not use the wire.

Mornings at the moment are pretty calm not much good holes or stirred up whitewater for the Mulloway to be feeding well. 

Where as there are plenty of spinner sharks and big Tailor around on these calmer mornings we are getting and they give a pretty good account of themselves on the line with some nice leaps and all...... relieves the boredom when there are fewer big fish around. 

Depending on baits I use circles and get most big Tailor as you said but the rig is still trashed and needs re-tying once they start going 50+. The snell line between hooks is always cut up. Saving heaps of time rerigging and also keeping the fish interested. Fishing solo the fish can move on in the time it takes to get a new rig back out.

I will get a pic for you meeuwissen when I am out the beach where my gear is on the weekend.

 

 

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cheers for the photo what is the knot you use for the wire to

Sat, 2018-02-17 14:45

 mono ive just rigged up a heaps for mackies but use swivels

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 Don’t know what it is

Sat, 2018-02-17 17:36

 Don’t know what it is actually called use this link to tie it, www.youtube.com/watch 

I use 4 wraps rather than three, though three work well. The line seems to pull up tight on the wire rather than against it. I would still use a relatively heavy mono to join to the wire then an Fg back to braid to maximise strength. 

 

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