your suggestions for anchor winch
Submitted by Faulkner Family on Tue, 2010-08-31 22:08
Due to my back probs we will be looking at an electric anchor winch for our 23 foot fraser. What brand and rope / chain set up would you recommend. Also what sort of prices would i be looking at to get it done. want to go local not o/seas
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Feral
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i much prefer the anchor
i much prefer the anchor floats like the anchor yanka ... ive got a large winch on the front of my tub and i dont use it as its too slow and hard to deal with in sloppy conditions .. not much fun being up the front while rolling around trying to balance and roll ropes into the locker ..
if money was no object id look at one of the drum types as i hear they are ok and controled from the cabin ..
as for chains and ropes .. i run about 1 meter of chain per meter of boat lenth .. and then 200meters of silver rope in the locker (not sure of the mm size of the rope . i also have a spare heavy rope of 100m of about 30mm with 5 meters of heavy chain (just incase)
Faulkner Family
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We have one of those anchor
We have one of those anchor yankers and they work great but unfortunatly i have a bad back due to a work accident and after 3 years its no better and i cant lift much weight, so its an electric winch for us. was thinking a drum one operated from the cabin. thanks for the info on rope and chain. we already run about 7mtrs of chain
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carnarvonite
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Silver rope
Have a look round on the net for silver rope, the last coil of 12mm x 200 metres I bought was about $100 delivered via OZ post to Carnarvon. Was quote $120+ for a 100 metre coil from a local supplier.
iana
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Stressfree Anchor winches
I think Stressfree (drum type) anchor winches are supplied set up with rope and chain for your boat size.
grayzeee
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i've got a lewmar from
i've got a lewmar from memory. it's great power wise but make sure you get one that you can disengage the drive , so the anchor can free fall to the bottom. i have to stand there with my finger on the button.
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
fisho-ron
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hey russ i only mentioned
hey russ
i only mentioned the staes for the winch cause you save $500,
you can get it all here for about $1800-$2000 from witworths in leadervile.
mine cost $2500 fitted but you can proberly fit it yourself depending on the hatch set up.
they are a top mount and are full s/steel.
i would stay away from the freefall, they tangle because the chain rope comes out to fast.
as i said before, i looked around for months before getting my lewmar and 99% of the sales men said dont get the free fall, the free fall cost more as well.
but as grayzee said, you have to hold the button until it gets to where you want and in very deep water it could be an issuse.
i never anchor in more than 20mts and i find it not to bad.from memory the lewmar 700 series suits up to a 32ft boat.
Rick
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Save the money
Russ, you just need your crew to work harder,leaving you more time to fish
I have a Maxwell on the boat, it's ok does have a free fall feature but you have to use the key on the winch. So I just use the button, not that big a deal but I always make sure engine running when raising and lowering the anchor, they drain some power. Don't normally anchor in much more than 35m but.Rope just falls into the anchor well.
When it comes to your anchor rope, check with your winch manufacturer, as some ropes are far more suited to winches than others.
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grayzeee
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"99% of the sales men said
"99% of the sales men said dont get the free fall"
not saying you're wrong ron , but i wouldn't listen to much to salesmen. they just want to sell what they have in stock
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
fisho-ron
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your proberly right there
your proberly right there graham, salesmen are the slimyest bunch out there, but the shops that did have both in stock still said no to the free fall.
have you had any issuse with yours?
do you have the profish model?
also when at rotto and watching al the big boats come in, none of them are freefall, from what i have seen anyway.
but holding the button on when in deep water is a pain, but it dosnt take long.
90% of my anchoring is at rotto in 3mtrs so there is no probs there.
i also looked at the stresfree drum type, they are quite large, cost more and didnt suit my boat anyway and i got told the line bounds up on 1 side, but that was a salesman again so who knows.
cheers
Rod P
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"salesmen are the slimyest
"salesmen are the slimyest bunch out there" thanks Ron that makes me feel great
fisho-ron
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sorry rod, there are
sorry rod, there are exeptions as yourself,
mate.. i was a car salesman for 2 years and some of the guys i met would rip there own family off, there are some good guys out there but few and far between.
i got out when i was ordered by my boss to rip $2000 out of a single mother trying to buy a decent car to cart her kids around, i did the opp and gave her the bargain she deserved, that was my last day in sales forever.
sorry if it offened you, but your not slimy, you have displayed that to me already with the help you gave me.
cheers ron
Rod P
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Thats fine Ron just thought
Thats fine Ron just thought i'd have a dig...hehe
uncle
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big crewies
just get some big musclar crewies
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grayzeee
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don't know which model i
don't know which model i have but the only problem i've had , is when the anchor get's jammed , it shreds the rope.
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
fisho-ron
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does that happen when in
does that happen when in free fall
grayzeee
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no. i don't have a free fall
no. i don't have a free fall winch.
this happens on retrieve
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
fisho-ron
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i have never had my rope out
i have never had my rope out yet so i hope it dosnt happen to mine, i run 50mtrs of chain.
this is a lewmar 700series(not the profish)
here is a pic of mine, click on pic to get a better view?
Cammos
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I like the look of that. Is
I like the look of that. Is it attached to the hatch? If it is did you have to beef up the hatch or bolt it down?
fisho-ron
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camos yes bolted to the orig
camos
yes bolted to the orig hatch.
the guy from kelmscott fitted it and f#*ked it.
when i got it from him it was flooping around like a you know what?
i braced it up myself with 10mm ally angle that bolts the hatch to the deck with the winch bolts going trough it as well, so if you can imagine it ties every thing in together and is now strong as.
i then put a large inspection door into the bulkhead, incase i need to get in there for some reason..
cheers
fisho-ron
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graham do you know if it is
graham
do you know if it is running the right rope, when i got mine i had to chuck my old 100mts of rope because it didnt suit the gypsy.
cheers ron
mightymouse
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I have a free fall lewmar
I have a free fall lewmar Profish and they are great.
Setup was around $1500 with rope/anchor chain but it was money well spent if you anchor
grayzeee
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i don't know that ron , but
i don't know that ron , but may be worth finding out , tho i hardly ever anchor.
just looks like your standard cheap crap rope that comes with a new boat fit out.
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
Paul G
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I have just been through all
I have just been through all this and the drum whinch strees free are the best ,they have them with and without freefall and they dont jam like the others.around $2700-$3000 but well worth it think if you give me a ring I will tell you where to get one for half price ,I was keeping it for myself but I you intrested go for it.
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mightymouse
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Dont know if a drum Whinch
Dont know if a drum Whinch would look good on the front of a 23 Fraser
till
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I think like this; Stress
I think like this; Stress Free Marine NG Maxi 1400
fisho-ron
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like mightymouse said till,
like mightymouse said till, i would look like crap!!!
i looked at one for my boat and the thing stuck out of the hole by half, looked like shit.
plus it gets bolted to the bulkhead which would of had to been reiforeced a huge amount.
i also got told they wind up on one side and come of the drum, i did see a boat in a shop with one and it deffinatly was not spooled on evenly, but i dont know if it would of come off the drum but!
till
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I've seen them mounted below
I've seen them mounted below deck in the well, just a wide roller out the front.
The bulkhead wouldn't have to be reinforced any more than the deck a gypsy would be attached to.
just dhu it
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boat show
Russ the boat show is October , you might get a better deal and info when shown the equipment when on display , what happened to the Boys pulling up the anchor ,?? so they can earn their keep on board lol
Alan James
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Make sure you ask about the rope
prior to purchase. I bought a Muir and was surprised it only came with 50m of rope. I later purchased a 200m length but was advised the standard 10mm rope wasn't compatible. About $1,100.00 later.
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Soft
C'mon Russ, you've got a couple of strong young lads who fish with you!:)
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Faulkner Family
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nah not soft . just got a
nah not soft . just got a stuffed back. the kids dont go out with us any more. Brenden does on occasions but he is a bit of a woos and the rope hurts his hands
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till
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How about Sandy *grin*
How about Sandy *grin*
Faulkner Family
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she tries but she said a few
she tries but she said a few 4 letter words about that comment that i cant put on here as its a family site
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fisho-ron
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russ. pissed myself laughing
russ.
pissed myself laughing when i read this one, i got the same woosy story from my young bloke and a mate 1 day when it got stuck.
mightymouse
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Paul is your winch like
Paul is your winch like Till's photo? looks good .
when it rolls up the rope does the rope roll to one side as it does not have a guide
fisho-ron
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a drum winch looked like
a drum winch looked like this on my boat, because it wouldnt fit in the hole.
i think my winch i got now looks pretty as well.
check the line pull as well russ, they differ greatly in strength.
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thanks for all the info
thanks for all the info guys. will be starting to look at a few soon
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Paul G
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I havent bought one yet just
I havent bought one yet just checked up on them ,they fit stright into the well on the haines .as far as I know they spread the rope out as it is retreved ,but the drum must be centre to the bow bolard.
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tournament
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hey fisho ron is that 700
hey fisho ron is that 700 the vertical model if it is have you had trouble with the rope twisting and jamming its apain on the arse
fisho-ron
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mate. i have had no trouble
mate.
i have had no trouble at all with mine but it has only been on there for a short time,
i have used it a lot already with no probs from 3mt-20mtr.
1 thing i remember people telling me was every now and then you should let all the chain/rope out and then retreive so it lays in the hole the way it should?
that said, i run 50mtrs of chain and have never got to the rope yet, i dont intend to get to the rope either, i do not anchor in deep water as a rule.
cheers
pale ale
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My stress free did bunch up
My stress free did bunch up a bit on one side, then as I was lowering the anchor a loose coil of chain spilled over the side and got wrapped around the "axle", cant think of the word, and I had to climb up and try to loosen the chain locked around the axle.
not too much fun in rough seas, but I sorted it ok.
If the anchor is snagged on a reef, I doubt the winch will pull it off without tearing the front of the bow open.
Any ideas what to do if it is snagged?
bad q
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only trouble ron has had is
only trouble ron has had is forgettin to pull the anchor ur haha
fisho-ron
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thats the problem when you
thats the problem when you dont anchor much... you forget about it and try to run it over...lol
but a decent decky would of been on the ball and said something hey?
Faulkner Family
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never mind Ron , last trip
never mind Ron , last trip out i forgot to bring up the burley buckrt and drove off with it trailing behind. would have left a nice trail.
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fisho-ron
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done it on the same day as
done it on the same day as the anchor russ....with the same decky(bad Q)
i think there is a pattern here.......maybe need a new decky?
nah i think it might be the retard skipper not doing his job, too interested in fishen!
goes to show russ that the buckets that are bolted on are a good idea!
Rod P
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A goood anchor winch is
A goood anchor winch is really only as good as the rope you use. Not all nylon ropes are the same.
I just refitted a Maxwell winch to the bow of my boat. Very happy with it.
Rod
bad q
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haha not so much a retard
haha not so much a retard bloke u just like a drink not that thats a problem,yet,hey and your decky is a good bloke too,
carnarvonite
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Boys
Get your boys to eat their weeties before you leave in the mornings Russ, should solve all the problems, oh and leave the anchor retriever at home as well.
Faulkner Family
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mainly going to be just
mainly going to be just Sandy and i going from now. brenden has his own things to do and nathan has moved out.but on rare occasions we will have another deckie
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lowrance
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Lewmar is the way to go.
go a lewmar pro700 or profish, i suggest you go more chain as possible to eliminate jams especially if you dont have the fall in your anchorwell. Remember to get a good quality nylon rope otherwise it will shred. Not too hard of a lay and not too soft either, medium lay is what you need. There is nothing wrong with a freefall except in a vertical version as too many bends you might say for the rope to leave quickly. Lewmar pro sells for $1399 and the fish $1549 at All Boat Business in Kingsley, rope will set you back at say $250 for 100m 12mm nylon and say $200 for 20mts chain 6mm short link. Be careful not to get the chinese chain as its not the best and can cause jams also. Fitting cost vary from boat to boat and the expensive part is the wiring as you need heavy guage copper wire to give your winch good power otherwise she will be slow and useles. hope this helps guys?....